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RIP Harlan Ellison
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a***@yahoo.com
2018-06-28 19:57:31 UTC
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https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/

I need to read more of his stuff....
Dimensional Traveler
2018-06-28 20:38:14 UTC
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I need to read more of his stuff....
I suspect his lawyer has standing orders on who to serve suit on for
this.... :(
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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2018-06-29 00:33:31 UTC
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I need to read more of his stuff....
I suspect his lawyer has standing orders on who to serve suit on for
this.... :(
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They used dogs. They used probes. They used cardioplate
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They used cunning. They used guile. They used treachery.
They used Raoul Mitgong, but he didn't help much. They used
applied physics. They used techniques of criminology.

And what the hell: they caught him.

Eventually the Ticktockman gets us all.

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David DeLaney
2018-06-28 21:35:28 UTC
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I need to read more of his stuff....
Oh damnitall. He was a legend.

I do not have enough of his stuff.

Dave, huh - he was born in my city, 30 years prior to me
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Joe Bernstein
2018-06-29 01:50:25 UTC
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https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/
That news is what brought me back here after my usual morning looksee.
Hoped for more information, since none of the sites I can reach with
the limited Internet access I have here seems to have covered the
story yet.

Anyway, this reminded me that I asked some months ago what would
limit publication of <The Last Dangerous Visions> if he died (with
the manuscripts and such intact). Yes, I feel a bit ghoulish, but in
any event, we're going to find out now.
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I need to read more of his stuff....
Oh damnitall. He was a legend.
I do not have enough of his stuff.
I was never a big fan - I preferred the sunnier version of histrionic
romanticism peddled by Spider Robinson, which probably tells you
something about my lack of taste - but I sure don't have enough of
his stuff any *more*. I'm pretty sure I no longer even own
<Dangerous Visions>, and quite sure about <The Glass Teat>, which I
actually did like.

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nuny@bid.nes
2018-06-30 01:29:14 UTC
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...I asked some months ago what would
limit publication of <The Last Dangerous Visions> if he died (with
the manuscripts and such intact). Yes, I feel a bit ghoulish, but in
any event, we're going to find out now.
AIUI he left instructions with a relative to burn everything so that
"some hack doesn't get their mitts on it and screw it up" or words to
that effect.


Mark L. Fergerson
Carl Fink
2018-06-30 22:16:20 UTC
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AIUI he left instructions with a relative to burn everything so that
"some hack doesn't get their mitts on it and screw it up" or words to
that effect.
His wife, and "literary grave robber" according to the coverage.
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nuny@bid.nes
2018-07-04 17:42:19 UTC
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AIUI he left instructions with a relative to burn everything so that
"some hack doesn't get their mitts on it and screw it up" or words to
that effect.
His wife, and "literary grave robber" according to the coverage.
That sounds like him. Glad I'm not the only one who (sort of) remembered that- I was afraid I was having a Mandela Effect moment.


Mark L. Fergerson
Peter Trei
2018-06-28 21:45:00 UTC
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I need to read more of his stuff....
Crap. Another of the Titans has passed.

I saw him a couple times at cons, never spoke to him. Read a lot of his
work.

pt
Dorothy J Heydt
2018-06-28 22:05:59 UTC
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I need to read more of his stuff....
Crap. Another of the Titans has passed.
I saw him a couple times at cons, never spoke to him. Read a lot of his
work.
We had an argument once, over -- as you might have guessed --
Star Trek.
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l***@yahoo.com
2018-06-28 23:24:15 UTC
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One collection of his short stories bears this title:

"Love Ain't Nothing But Sex Misspelled."

(And if you're under 21, especially, that is very likely to be the case. There's a reason you seldom hear of two 30-year-olds, however buff, falling in love at first sight.)


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puppetsock
2018-06-29 17:26:57 UTC
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I need to read more of his stuff....
He spoke at a con I was at. San Francisco world con? Not sure. He had just released Mephisto in Onyx. If I recall, his evaluation of his own work was that it was as good writing as he was capable of.

And after he finished talking he went over to the dealer's room and punched out a guy that was selling a bootleg of one of his books. For which he was taken to jail. I don't know if I ever found out how that turned out.

Some time around then, I don't recall if it was before or after, he wrote an essay that was published in one of the SF mags. Seems somebody had saved his vomit in a Styrofoam cup. Then he came up to Ellison and threw the vomit in Ellison's face. What kind of person does that?

Going to miss you Mr. Ellison.
Lawrence Watt-Evans
2018-06-29 18:36:34 UTC
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https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/
I need to read more of his stuff....
He spoke at a con I was at. San Francisco world con? Not sure. He had just released Mephisto in Onyx. If I recall, his evaluation of his own work was that it was as good writing as he was capable of.
And after he finished talking he went over to the dealer's room and punched out a guy that was selling a bootleg of one of his books. For which he was taken to jail. I don't know if I ever found out how that turned out.
Some time around then, I don't recall if it was before or after, he wrote an essay that was published in one of the SF mags. Seems somebody had saved his vomit in a Styrofoam cup. Then he came up to Ellison and threw the vomit in Ellison's face. What kind of person does that?
If anyone wants to track down the essay, the title is "Xenogenesis."
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Ahasuerus
2018-06-29 19:10:15 UTC
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https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/
I need to read more of his stuff....
He spoke at a con I was at. San Francisco world con? Not sure. He
had just released Mephisto in Onyx. If I recall, his evaluation of
his own work was that it was as good writing as he was capable of.
And after he finished talking he went over to the dealer's room and
punched out a guy that was selling a bootleg of one of his books.
For which he was taken to jail. I don't know if I ever found out
how that turned out.
Some time around then, I don't recall if it was before or after, he
wrote an essay that was published in one of the SF mags. Seems
somebody had saved his vomit in a Styrofoam cup. Then he came up to
Ellison and threw the vomit in Ellison's face. What kind of person
does that?
The vomit incident happened to Alan Dean Foster whose letter Ellison
quoted.
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If anyone wants to track down the essay, the title is "Xenogenesis."
For an alternative take on the Westercon "fire alarm" incident see
Andrew Trembey's post at
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/03/17/reader-request-week-7-unruly-fans/
Robert Carnegie
2018-06-29 22:37:06 UTC
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https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/
I need to read more of his stuff....
He spoke at a con I was at. San Francisco world con? Not sure. He
had just released Mephisto in Onyx. If I recall, his evaluation of
his own work was that it was as good writing as he was capable of.
And after he finished talking he went over to the dealer's room and
punched out a guy that was selling a bootleg of one of his books.
For which he was taken to jail. I don't know if I ever found out
how that turned out.
Some time around then, I don't recall if it was before or after, he
wrote an essay that was published in one of the SF mags. Seems
somebody had saved his vomit in a Styrofoam cup. Then he came up to
Ellison and threw the vomit in Ellison's face. What kind of person
does that?
The vomit incident happened to Alan Dean Foster whose letter Ellison
quoted.
I was trying to work out if the vomit was Ellison's own,
and how it originated - a tedious answer would be alcohol.
"Why Alan Dean Foster?" is another question. Presumably
because he couldn't find Harlan Ellison.
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Post by Lawrence Watt-Evans
If anyone wants to track down the essay, the title is "Xenogenesis."
For an alternative take on the Westercon "fire alarm" incident see
Andrew Trembey's post at
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/03/17/reader-request-week-7-unruly-fans/
Kevrob
2018-06-30 01:11:29 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:26:57 -0700 (PDT), puppetsock
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https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/
I need to read more of his stuff....
He spoke at a con I was at. San Francisco world con? Not sure. He
had just released Mephisto in Onyx. If I recall, his evaluation of
his own work was that it was as good writing as he was capable of.
And after he finished talking he went over to the dealer's room and
punched out a guy that was selling a bootleg of one of his books.
For which he was taken to jail. I don't know if I ever found out
how that turned out.
Some time around then, I don't recall if it was before or after, he
wrote an essay that was published in one of the SF mags. Seems
somebody had saved his vomit in a Styrofoam cup. Then he came up to
Ellison and threw the vomit in Ellison's face. What kind of person
does that?
The vomit incident happened to Alan Dean Foster whose letter Ellison
quoted.
I was trying to work out if the vomit was Ellison's own,
and how it originated - a tedious answer would be alcohol.
"Why Alan Dean Foster?" is another question.
A rival author beat out for the 27th tine for a
novelization contract? :)
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Presumably because he couldn't find Harlan Ellison.
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Post by Lawrence Watt-Evans
If anyone wants to track down the essay, the title is "Xenogenesis."
For an alternative take on the Westercon "fire alarm" incident see
Andrew Trembey's post at
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/03/17/reader-request-week-7-unruly-fans/
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Robert Carnegie
2018-07-06 07:20:17 UTC
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It belatedly occurs to me that I have failed to commemorate
him gracefully.

Perhaps it'd what he would have wanted.

James Nicoll
2018-06-30 14:00:42 UTC
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https://www.cbr.com/harlan-ellison-dies-84/
I need to read more of his stuff....
He spoke at a con I was at. San Francisco world con? Not sure. He had
just released Mephisto in Onyx. If I recall, his evaluation of his own
work was that it was as good writing as he was capable of.
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And after he finished talking he went over to the dealer's room and
punched out a guy that was selling a bootleg of one of his books. For
which he was taken to jail. I don't know if I ever found out how that
turned out.
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Some time around then, I don't recall if it was before or after, he
wrote an essay that was published in one of the SF mags. Seems somebody
had saved his vomit in a Styrofoam cup. Then he came up to Ellison and
threw the vomit in Ellison's face. What kind of person does that?
If anyone wants to track down the essay, the title is "Xenogenesis."
Which in at least one HE collection is conveniently located near
the essay about the hilariously nasty things Ellison did to people
who pissed him off, like mailing someone a dead animal.
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Mike Van Pelt
2018-07-05 23:41:00 UTC
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Which in at least one HE collection is conveniently located near
the essay about the hilariously nasty things Ellison did to people
who pissed him off, like mailing someone a dead animal.
In that case, if I recall correctly, the thing that pissed
Ellison off was stealing one of his stories, and basically
flipping him off and saying "Ha ha ha, get a lawyer, we have
a dozen on retainer."
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Mike Van Pelt
2018-06-29 21:33:33 UTC
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He spoke at a con I was at. San Francisco world con? Not sure.
He had just released Mephisto in Onyx. If I recall, his
evaluation of his own work was that it was as good writing as he
was capable of.
I'm pretty sure that was BayCon when it was held in the Red Lion
(now Doubletree) by the San Jose airport. Maybe Westercon; it
was held there once.

I vividly recall him reading from "Mefisto in Onyx". (I thought
I recalled that was his spelling... a quick google, and yeah.)
I went out and found a copy of the magazine it was printed in
(Omni?) because I didn't subscribe to it. It's one of the
three stories by him that I liked a lot.

Mostly, my reaction to his stories was "ewww". Great writer,
but not to my taste. Mostly.
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