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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-07 22:12:02 UTC
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now from
Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT

Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM


Demons is a project I've been working on longer than any other of my
published material; the first draft of the first book, then just titled
_Psionic!_, was written about 1980. It's a space opera that I have sort
of described as "What if Luke Skywalker had gone to the Imperial
Academy, and only found out about the Force -- and the fact that the
Empire was really rotten -- after 20 years of service?"

Fall of Veils is an ensemble cast series which is sort of a cross
between Cheers, Supernatural, and Being Human, with a coffee bar theme.
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Robert Carnegie
2018-04-07 22:55:48 UTC
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now from
Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM
Demons is a project I've been working on longer than any other of my
published material; the first draft of the first book, then just titled
_Psionic!_, was written about 1980. It's a space opera that I have sort
of described as "What if Luke Skywalker had gone to the Imperial
Academy, and only found out about the Force -- and the fact that the
Empire was really rotten -- after 20 years of service?"
Fall of Veils is an ensemble cast series which is sort of a cross
between Cheers, Supernatural, and Being Human, with a coffee bar theme.
Sounds like _Friends_ With Diabolism :-)
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-08 19:20:34 UTC
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now from
Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM
Demons is a project I've been working on longer than any other of my
published material; the first draft of the first book, then just titled
_Psionic!_, was written about 1980. It's a space opera that I have sort
of described as "What if Luke Skywalker had gone to the Imperial
Academy, and only found out about the Force -- and the fact that the
Empire was really rotten -- after 20 years of service?"
Fall of Veils is an ensemble cast series which is sort of a cross
between Cheers, Supernatural, and Being Human, with a coffee bar theme.
Sounds like _Friends_ With Diabolism :-)
Sorta kinda maybe?
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David Goldfarb
2018-04-07 23:33:38 UTC
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Bought! Although I don't know when I'm going to get around to actually
reading either of them. My plate is Hugo Award reading for the foreseeable
future.
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Ahasuerus
2018-04-08 02:51:15 UTC
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On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-4, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now
from Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM
[snip-snip]

So, how many ongoing series does it make?
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-08 16:46:12 UTC
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On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-4, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now
from Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM
[snip-snip]
So, how many ongoing series does it make?
Well, depends how you mean "ongoing". Boundary's finished, but there's
still one coming in the follow-on Castaway. Paradigms Lost could be
continued and probably will be eventually. Princess Holy Aura could be
continued, whether that happens depends on sales. Phoenix' main story is
finished, though there could be another story afterward. The
Arenaverse's story is clearly not finished, if I ever get to that now
that Baen isn't asking for more. Polychrome could have a sequel but it's
pretty self-contained. Demons of the Past is a trilogy, of which all the
volumes are completed. Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
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Ahasuerus
2018-04-08 17:22:00 UTC
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On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-4, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now
from Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM
[snip-snip]
So, how many ongoing series does it make?
Well, depends how you mean "ongoing". Boundary's finished, but there's
still one coming in the follow-on Castaway. Paradigms Lost could be
continued and probably will be eventually. Princess Holy Aura could be
continued, whether that happens depends on sales. Phoenix' main story is
finished, though there could be another story afterward. The
Arenaverse's story is clearly not finished, if I ever get to that now
that Baen isn't asking for more. Polychrome could have a sequel but it's
pretty self-contained. Demons of the Past is a trilogy, of which all the
volumes are completed. Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
Personally, I blame Homer. He wrapped things up nicely at the end of
_The Iliad_, but then he had to go and write a sequel. It's been downhill
ever since!
Moriarty
2018-04-08 22:48:27 UTC
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On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 3:22:02 AM UTC+10, Ahasuerus wrote:

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Personally, I blame Homer. He wrapped things up nicely at the end of
_The Iliad_, but then he had to go and write a sequel. It's been downhill
ever since!
Eh? He left it on a cliffhanger with the outcome of the war and Helen's fate unresolved.

-Moriarty
Ahasuerus
2018-04-09 00:08:34 UTC
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Personally, I blame Homer. He wrapped things up nicely at the end of
_The Iliad_, but then he had to go and write a sequel. It's been
downhill ever since!
Eh? He left it on a cliffhanger with the outcome of the war and Helen's fate unresolved.
Sure, but the Iliad doesn't attempt to cover the totality of the Trojan
War. It would be a very different and much longer work if it did. Instead
it covers a small part of the war and concentrates on various conflicts
between Agamemnon, Achilles, Patroclus, Hector, etc. At the end of the
poem the central conflicts are resolved in a rather, um, decisive manner.
(And then there is that rumor that _The Odyssey_ was ghosted, but we
won't go there.)
Dimensional Traveler
2018-04-09 04:18:02 UTC
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Personally, I blame Homer. He wrapped things up nicely at the end of
_The Iliad_, but then he had to go and write a sequel. It's been
downhill ever since!
Eh? He left it on a cliffhanger with the outcome of the war and Helen's fate unresolved.
Sure, but the Iliad doesn't attempt to cover the totality of the Trojan
War. It would be a very different and much longer work if it did. Instead
it covers a small part of the war and concentrates on various conflicts
between Agamemnon, Achilles, Patroclus, Hector, etc. At the end of the
poem the central conflicts are resolved in a rather, um, decisive manner.
(And then there is that rumor that _The Odyssey_ was ghosted, but we
won't go there.)
Shakespeare actually wrote it.
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2018-04-08 18:51:35 UTC
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Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
That's a long tease! Most dancers stop with seven..
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-08 19:22:56 UTC
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Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
That's a long tease! Most dancers stop with seven..
Well, it's not like there aren't a lot of individual stories, it's just
that to get to the end of ALL the planned events will take that long.

For the Arenaverse I'm not sure how long it'd take. At least another
three books from where I currently stopped, and probably considerably
more before I actually answer all the major questions and deal with the
top adversaries.
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David DeLaney
2018-04-08 22:00:35 UTC
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now
from Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM
[snip-snip]
So, how many ongoing series does it make?
Well, depends how you mean "ongoing". Boundary's finished, but there's
still one coming in the follow-on Castaway. Paradigms Lost could be
continued and probably will be eventually. Princess Holy Aura could be
continued, whether that happens depends on sales. Phoenix' main story is
finished, though there could be another story afterward. The
Arenaverse's story is clearly not finished, if I ever get to that now
that Baen isn't asking for more. Polychrome could have a sequel but it's
pretty self-contained. Demons of the Past is a trilogy, of which all the
volumes are completed. Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
And since this is the first I've heard of Kathleen also commiting authory, I
have to ask: your children, between them, are writing up a mosaic trilogy,
aren't they?

Dave, they may not have told you yet

ps: added to caaart

pps: I have Demon, Dragon, Phoenix, Toad on my books.to.buy list; should it
stay there? Is that part of DotP?
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-09 01:00:29 UTC
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On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-4, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now
from Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
Also, the first volume of Fall of Veils, _French Roast Apocalypse_, by
Kathleen Moffre-Spoor (my wife, if the last name doesn't give it away)
and myself, is also out, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1H8WM
[snip-snip]
So, how many ongoing series does it make?
Well, depends how you mean "ongoing". Boundary's finished, but there's
still one coming in the follow-on Castaway. Paradigms Lost could be
continued and probably will be eventually. Princess Holy Aura could be
continued, whether that happens depends on sales. Phoenix' main story is
finished, though there could be another story afterward. The
Arenaverse's story is clearly not finished, if I ever get to that now
that Baen isn't asking for more. Polychrome could have a sequel but it's
pretty self-contained. Demons of the Past is a trilogy, of which all the
volumes are completed. Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
And since this is the first I've heard of Kathleen also commiting authory, I
have to ask: your children, between them, are writing up a mosaic trilogy,
aren't they?
I don't know if either of my sons are planning to go down that path. My
oldest daughter is running her own YouTube channel and writing stories
about dragons, though.
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Dave, they may not have told you yet
ps: added to caaart
pps: I have Demon, Dragon, Phoenix, Toad on my books.to.buy list; should it
stay there? Is that part of DotP?
"Demon, Dragon, Phoenix, Toad" was the working title for the book
released as _Phoenix in Shadow_. The original titles for the three books
were _Fall of Saints_, _Demon, Dragon, Phoenix, Toad_, and _Promise of
the Dying God_. Baen made me change the name of the god-powered warriors
from Saints to Justiciars, thus axing the first title, and they thought
the second sounded too silly, so I went with keeping a thematic
similarity in the titles: _Phoenix Rising_, _Phoenix in Shadow_, and
_Phoenix Ascendant_.

Demons of the Past's three volumes are _Revelation_, _Revolution_, and
_Retribution_.
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Elaine T
2018-04-08 23:36:34 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:46:12 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
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So, how many ongoing series does it make?
Well, depends how you mean "ongoing". Boundary's finished, but there's
still one coming in the follow-on Castaway. Paradigms Lost could be
continued and probably will be eventually. Princess Holy Aura could be
continued, whether that happens depends on sales. Phoenix' main story is
finished, though there could be another story afterward. The
Arenaverse's story is clearly not finished, if I ever get to that now
that Baen isn't asking for more. Polychrome could have a sequel but it's
pretty self-contained. Demons of the Past is a trilogy, of which all the
volumes are completed. Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
What about the rest of Phoenix/Paradigm's Lost's stories, which I
think is about the fall of Virigar? Xavier's story, Kyri's sister's
story, and the matching tales on Earth?
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-09 01:03:20 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:46:12 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
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So, how many ongoing series does it make?
Well, depends how you mean "ongoing". Boundary's finished, but there's
still one coming in the follow-on Castaway. Paradigms Lost could be
continued and probably will be eventually. Princess Holy Aura could be
continued, whether that happens depends on sales. Phoenix' main story is
finished, though there could be another story afterward. The
Arenaverse's story is clearly not finished, if I ever get to that now
that Baen isn't asking for more. Polychrome could have a sequel but it's
pretty self-contained. Demons of the Past is a trilogy, of which all the
volumes are completed. Fall of Veils is going to be like 8-9 volumes.
What about the rest of Phoenix/Paradigm's Lost's stories, which I
think is about the fall of Virigar? Xavier's story, Kyri's sister's
story, and the matching tales on Earth?
I count those as separate series, so to speak. Jason Wood has one set
of stories that started with Paradigms Lost; then there's The Spirit
Warriors (Xavier and friends), and Godswar (Kyri's sister, Kyri's aunt
Victoria, and the two odd bodyguards they'd picked up).

Eventually it all collides in The Grand Finale, which will probably be
"Wolf's Dominion".
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2018-04-08 20:12:24 UTC
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    The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now
from Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
An unrelated question for you Ryk,
prior to you and Flint writing "Boundary",
had you read James P. Hogan's "Inherit the Stars" ?

It also has an interesting view (one I pretty much
subscribe to) about alien life.

Meanwhile Here is Nicoll's take:
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/the-man-in-the-moon-is-dead
and one excerpt shows Nicoll's cut
"Do not make the mistake of expecting anything more than
merely serviceable prose. Hogan is also keen on ungainly
infodumps. I admit that the infodump is a time-honoured
literary tradition, but it can be well or badly done. Hogan
does it gracelessly. The story comes to a grinding a halt while
the omniscient narrator lectures. Hogan also disdains much in
the way of characterization; that might draw attention from
the historical and physical puzzles that are Charlie and the
spaceship."
Ouch! Hogan died years ago, so he does not have to feel the burn!

also
Inherit the Stars (Giants, #1) by James P. Hogan - Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/776489.Inherit_the_Stars
Rating: 4.1 - ‎3,259 votes
Start by marking “Inherit the Stars (Giants, #1)” as Want to Read: ...
Brian Amazon sells books 1 & 2 as The Two Moons (Giants Star Book 1) and
books 3 & 4 as The Two Worlds (Giants Star Book 2). ... James Patrick
Hogan was a British science fiction author.

or
Inherit the Stars - James P. Hogan - Google Books
https://books.google.com/books/about/Inherit_the_Stars.html?id=en49Q415InQC
LibraryThing Review. User Review - LisaMaria_C - LibraryThing. I did
like this. This is Hard Science Fiction with a capital H and S. It's
strength and its weakness. It can be dry at times--the writing style is
pretty creaky--as one review notes filled with "As ... Read full review ...
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-08 20:29:02 UTC
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The first volume of Demons of the Past, _Revelation_, is out now
from Double Dragon, at: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BZ1JXKT
An unrelated question for you Ryk,
prior to you and Flint writing "Boundary",
had you read James P. Hogan's "Inherit the Stars" ?
Nope. Boundary's main inspiration was Clarke and RAH juveniles. With a
touch of Cosmos.
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Bo Lindbergh
2018-04-08 20:14:18 UTC
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Also on iBooks...
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/revelation/id1368794258?mt=11
... but what's a "ButÖ Commander"?

/Bo Lindbergh
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2018-04-08 20:27:59 UTC
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Also on iBooks...
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/revelation/id1368794258?mt=11
... but what's a "ButÖ Commander"?
/Bo Lindbergh
I'd guess Apple's site glitching on some kind of symbol.
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