The Starmaker

2018-06-23 18:45:18 UTC

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Count it...1Raw Message

only One universe

0NE

if you disagree...you should give up physics and math.

Go lay carpet for a living...

Science isn't math.

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The Starmaker

2018-06-23 18:45:18 UTC

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Count it...1Raw Message

only One universe

0NE

if you disagree...you should give up physics and math.

Go lay carpet for a living...

Science isn't math.

Robert Carnegie

2018-06-23 18:54:43 UTC

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Nominative determinism. Raw Message

c***@optonline.net

2018-06-23 18:57:48 UTC

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So very VERY true !Raw Message

Universe by definition is everything.

Infinite in all dimensions, including time. No boundaries, no

beginning, and no end.

benj

2018-06-23 20:30:44 UTC

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On 6/23/2018 2:57 PM, ***@optonline.net wrote:Raw Message

> So very VERY true !

>

> Universe by definition is everything.

>

> Infinite in all dimensions, including time. No boundaries, no

> beginning, and no end.

>

Since the universe by definition is "everything" it follows that the

universe includes that portion that is "nothing". Hence one cannot say

that universe is not bounded since it includes that portion of "nothing"

out beyond the bounded "something"! Right?

Perhaps Odd can straighten you and faker out on this issue.

The Starmaker

2018-06-23 21:05:12 UTC

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Mark Earnest wrote:Raw Message

>

> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 3:30:47 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:

> > On 6/23/2018 2:57 PM, wrote:

> > > So very VERY true !

> > >

> > > Universe by definition is everything.

> > >

> > > Infinite in all dimensions, including time. No boundaries, no

> > > beginning, and no end.

> > >

> > Since the universe by definition is "everything" it follows that the

> > universe includes that portion that is "nothing". Hence one cannot say

> > that universe is not bounded since it includes that portion of "nothing"

> > out beyond the bounded "something"! Right?

> >

> > Perhaps Odd can straighten you and faker out on this issue.

>

> The nothing that is outside the universe is not part of the universe. It is just nothing that's all.

wat is there where there is nothing?

Chris M. Thomasson

2018-06-23 21:22:33 UTC

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On 6/23/2018 2:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:Raw Message

> Mark Earnest wrote:

>>

>> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 3:30:47 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:

>>> On 6/23/2018 2:57 PM, wrote:

>>>> So very VERY true !

>>>>

>>>> Universe by definition is everything.

>>>>

>>>> Infinite in all dimensions, including time. No boundaries, no

>>>> beginning, and no end.

>>>>

>>> Since the universe by definition is "everything" it follows that the

>>> universe includes that portion that is "nothing". Hence one cannot say

>>> that universe is not bounded since it includes that portion of "nothing"

>>> out beyond the bounded "something"! Right?

>>>

>>> Perhaps Odd can straighten you and faker out on this issue.

>>

>> The nothing that is outside the universe is not part of the universe. It is just nothing that's all.

>

>

> wat is there where there is nothing?

>

Imvvvho, there was never nothing for the universe was always there. We

can only observe so much.

The Starmaker

2018-06-23 21:09:28 UTC

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benj wrote:Raw Message

>

> On 6/23/2018 2:57 PM, ***@optonline.net wrote:

> > So very VERY true !

> >

> > Universe by definition is everything.

> >

> > Infinite in all dimensions, including time. No boundaries, no

> > beginning, and no end.

> >

> Since the universe by definition is "everything" it follows that the

> universe includes that portion that is "nothing". Hence one cannot say

> that universe is not bounded since it includes that portion of "nothing"

> out beyond the bounded "something"! Right?

>

> Perhaps Odd can straighten you and faker out on this issue.

albert einstein died tryin to find numbers that lead to nowhere...

he shouda stuck to physics...or building atomic bombs,

at least we can see the result of the fruits of his labor.

benj

2018-06-23 21:24:59 UTC

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On 6/23/2018 5:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote:Raw Message

> benj wrote:

>>

>> On 6/23/2018 2:57 PM, ***@optonline.net wrote:

>>> So very VERY true !

>>>

>>> Universe by definition is everything.

>>>

>>> Infinite in all dimensions, including time. No boundaries, no

>>> beginning, and no end.

>>>

>> Since the universe by definition is "everything" it follows that the

>> universe includes that portion that is "nothing". Hence one cannot say

>> that universe is not bounded since it includes that portion of "nothing"

>> out beyond the bounded "something"! Right?

>>

>> Perhaps Odd can straighten you and faker out on this issue.

>

>

> albert einstein died tryin to find numbers that lead to nowhere...

>

>

> he shouda stuck to physics...or building atomic bombs,

>

> at least we can see the result of the fruits of his labor.

>

It's pretty simple science Faker, "nowhere" is found if you follow

"somewhere" until it ends...

c***@optonline.net

2018-06-23 21:59:05 UTC

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>> Raw Message

>Since the universe by definition is "everything" it follows that the

>universe includes that portion that is "nothing". Hence one cannot say

>that universe is not bounded since it includes that portion of "nothing"

>out beyond the bounded "something"! Right?

>

The universe by definition includes everything, and that includes your

" ... portion that is "nothing" ". So that is also part of the

universe.

There can't be any boundary, since one could go to said boundary, and

simply point to the other side. Same thing for time. Go to said

beginning and ask what was yesterday ? or said end and wait another

day !

benj

2018-06-23 20:26:43 UTC

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On 6/23/2018 2:45 PM, The Starmaker wrote:Raw Message

> Count it...1

>

> only One universe

>

> 0NE

>

>

> if you disagree...you should give up physics and math.

>

>

> Go lay carpet for a living...

Of go do whatever Starfaker does in his day job (probably flip burgers).

It SURE is NOT either science or math!

> Science isn't math.

Math is certainly a science: "Science means in the context of a general

dictionary definition "any body of knowledge organized in a systematic

way", or a defined branch of knowledge , study or learning."

And of course even though mathematics is pure fantasy, it is still the

language generally used to describe phenomena in the natural sciences.

Faker, how about you learn the difference between sciences in general

and natural sciences.

Obviously Faker, you are still an idiot. Go flip come burgers.

The Starmaker

2018-06-23 21:05:39 UTC

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Mark Earnest wrote:Raw Message

>

> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 1:45:26 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:

> > Count it...1

> >

> > only One universe

> >

> > 0NE

> >

> >

> > if you disagree...you should give up physics and math.

> >

> >

> > Go lay carpet for a living...

> >

> >

> > Science isn't math.

>

> There is only one universe and when you leave that you are nowhere.

where is nowhere?

Chris M. Thomasson

2018-06-23 21:20:20 UTC

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On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:Raw Message

> Count it...1

>

> only One universe

Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.

What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in size

to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it cannot be

measured unless we totally halt iteration.

What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an

infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an

event horizon.

>

> 0NE

>

>

> if you disagree...you should give up physics and math.

>

>

> Go lay carpet for a living...

>

>

> Science isn't math.

>

benj

2018-06-23 21:29:19 UTC

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On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:Raw Message

> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:

>> Count it...1

>>

>> only One universe

>

> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.

>

> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in size

> to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it cannot be

> measured unless we totally halt iteration.

>

> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an

> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an

> event horizon.

Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter

which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a

line around that figure that is finite in length!

You following this Faker? Or are you still an idiot?

Chris M. Thomasson

2018-06-23 21:42:21 UTC

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On 6/23/2018 2:29 PM, benj wrote:Raw Message

> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

>> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:

>>> Count it...1

>>>

>>> only One universe

>>

>> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.

>>

>> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in

>> size to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it

>> cannot be measured unless we totally halt iteration.

>>

>> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an

>> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an

>> event horizon.

>

> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter

> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a

> line around that figure that is finite in length!

We can only draw the 100% complete Koch curve at a given iteration

level. If we take the iterations as never stopping, as if running in

another thread of execution, well, we would have a hard, basically

impossible time, drawing it. As soon as one plotted a portion, the

iteration would come around an make the plot instantly out of date!

>

> You following this Faker? Or are you still an idiot?

Not exactly sure what you mean. I just responded to a post. So what?

The Starmaker

2018-06-23 23:46:14 UTC

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Chris M. Thomasson wrote:Raw Message

>

> On 6/23/2018 2:29 PM, benj wrote:

> > On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> >> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:

> >>> Count it...1

> >>>

> >>> only One universe

> >>

> >> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.

> >>

> >> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in

> >> size to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it

> >> cannot be measured unless we totally halt iteration.

> >>

> >> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an

> >> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an

> >> event horizon.

> >

> > Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter

> > which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a

> > line around that figure that is finite in length!

>

> We can only draw the 100% complete Koch curve at a given iteration

> level. If we take the iterations as never stopping, as if running in

> another thread of execution, well, we would have a hard, basically

> impossible time, drawing it. As soon as one plotted a portion, the

> iteration would come around an make the plot instantly out of date!

Oh, the Koch curve...

I know that actual name for it but it slip my mind...correct me if I'm wrong...

It is a dimension in the middle of one and two.

It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between 1 and 2, dimension 1 1/2 .

Between a line and a surface. This is the dimension of fractional.

It is an area which we call the...The Koch Curve.

DEE-DEE dee-dee DEE-DEE dee-dee . . .

The Starmaker

2018-06-24 08:30:43 UTC

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The Starmaker wrote:Raw Message

>

> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> >

> > On 6/23/2018 2:29 PM, benj wrote:

> > > On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> > >> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:

> > >>> Count it...1

> > >>>

> > >>> only One universe

> > >>

> > >> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.

> > >>

> > >> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in

> > >> size to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it

> > >> cannot be measured unless we totally halt iteration.

> > >>

> > >> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an

> > >> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an

> > >> event horizon.

> > >

> > > Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter

> > > which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a

> > > line around that figure that is finite in length!

> >

> > We can only draw the 100% complete Koch curve at a given iteration

> > level. If we take the iterations as never stopping, as if running in

> > another thread of execution, well, we would have a hard, basically

> > impossible time, drawing it. As soon as one plotted a portion, the

> > iteration would come around an make the plot instantly out of date!

>

> Oh, the Koch curve...

>

> I know that actual name for it but it slip my mind...correct me if I'm wrong...

>

> It is a dimension in the middle of one and two.

> It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between 1 and 2, dimension 1 1/2 .

> Between a line and a surface. This is the dimension of fractional.

> It is an area which we call the...The Koch Curve.

>

> DEE-DEE dee-dee DEE-DEE dee-dee . . .

I mean...are you people serious??? I write There Is Only One Universe

and yous come with some 'Koch curve' kook that believes there is a ...one and a half dimensional universe????

Is this a joke? Is there a guy behind the curtain laughing?

Should I go get the witches broom?

Chris M. Thomasson

2018-06-25 03:07:24 UTC

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On 6/24/2018 1:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:Raw Message

> The Starmaker wrote:

>>

>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

>>>

>>> On 6/23/2018 2:29 PM, benj wrote:

>>>> On 6/23/2018 5:20 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

>>>>> On 6/23/2018 11:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:

>>>>>> Count it...1

>>>>>>

>>>>>> only One universe

>>>>>

>>>>> Okay. Let say that is true. I really do not know for sure anyway.

>>>>>

>>>>> What about a shape like the Koch curve that is basically finite in

>>>>> size to the eye, yet has an infinite border structure such that it

>>>>> cannot be measured unless we totally halt iteration.

>>>>>

>>>>> What about the Mandelbrot set, one main "largest" shape, with an

>>>>> infinite border. Afaict, the border of a fractal is kind of like an

>>>>> event horizon.

>>>>

>>>> Yep. Take the Koch geometric figure which has an infinite perimeter

>>>> which seems to say it is infinite in size, but clearly one can draw a

>>>> line around that figure that is finite in length!

>>>

>>> We can only draw the 100% complete Koch curve at a given iteration

>>> level. If we take the iterations as never stopping, as if running in

>>> another thread of execution, well, we would have a hard, basically

>>> impossible time, drawing it. As soon as one plotted a portion, the

>>> iteration would come around an make the plot instantly out of date!

>>

>> Oh, the Koch curve...

>>

>> I know that actual name for it but it slip my mind...correct me if I'm wrong...

>>

>> It is a dimension in the middle of one and two.

>> It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between 1 and 2, dimension 1 1/2 .

>> Between a line and a surface. This is the dimension of fractional.

>> It is an area which we call the...The Koch Curve.

>>

>> DEE-DEE dee-dee DEE-DEE dee-dee . . .

>

>

> I mean...are you people serious??? I write There Is Only One Universe

>

> and yous come with some 'Koch curve' kook that believes there is a ...one and a half dimensional universe????

>

>

> Is this a joke? Is there a guy behind the curtain laughing?

>

>

>

> Should I go get the witches broom?

>

lol!

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