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The problem with Time
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The Starmaker
2018-06-22 00:24:07 UTC
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The problem with Time is...
the science guys messed up Time.

The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...

they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes, hours...nanoseconds!


What time do you got? You don't got my time...you got the wrong time.


Then you have ...days, which have nothing to do with time.
benj
2018-06-22 01:30:31 UTC
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On 6/21/2018 8:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The problem with Time is...
> the science guys messed up Time.
>
> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
>
> they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes, hours...nanoseconds!
>
>
> What time do you got? You don't got my time...you got the wrong time.
>
>
> Then you have ...days, which have nothing to do with time.
>
Days are the time that existed with God created the Universe.

This time is MY time! This time YOUR time! From Kalifornia to the faker
day time!

Hey Faker your time is not mine and mine is not yours! My time is a bit
later than yours and yours is a bit later than mine. This is always
true. This is a "deep thought". Think about it.
The Starmaker
2018-06-22 05:22:58 UTC
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benj wrote:
>
> On 6/21/2018 8:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The problem with Time is...
> > the science guys messed up Time.
> >
> > The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
> >
> > they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes, hours...nanoseconds!
> >
> >
> > What time do you got? You don't got my time...you got the wrong time.
> >
> >
> > Then you have ...days, which have nothing to do with time.
> >
> Days are the time that existed with God created the Universe.
>


What time is it? Oh, it's Wednesday O'clock!




Days are the time???? That is the most stupidest thing I ever heard...
The Starmaker
2018-06-22 07:54:00 UTC
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***@gmail.com wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:22:09 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> > >
> > > On 6/21/2018 8:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The problem with Time is...
> > > > the science guys messed up Time.
> > > >
> > > > The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
> > > >
> > > > they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes, hours...nanoseconds!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What time do you got? You don't got my time...you got the wrong time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then you have ...days, which have nothing to do with time.
> > > >
> > > Days are the time that existed with God created the Universe.
> > >
> >
> >
> > What time is it? Oh, it's Wednesday O'clock!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Days are the time???? That is the most stupidest thing I ever heard...
>
> They are their own time. The rate of one Earth's rotation.
> Apparently You are more stupid than what you have heard.
>
> People shouldn't give you the time of the day then...
> TeeHeeHee...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

Taking a day..and dividing it up into Time does not make a day...time.

I thought I already explained...

The problem with Time is...
the science guys messed up Time.
they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes,
hours...nanoseconds!

It appears to me Time doesn't exist, and it's just an , an invention of
man.

Days are not Time. Time is just the division of a day...a day divided by
man...

the earth does not ...tick.
benj
2018-06-22 15:46:46 UTC
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On 6/22/2018 3:54 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:22:09 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 6/21/2018 8:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The problem with Time is...
>>>>> the science guys messed up Time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
>>>>>
>>>>> they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes, hours...nanoseconds!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What time do you got? You don't got my time...you got the wrong time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you have ...days, which have nothing to do with time.
>>>>>
>>>> Days are the time that existed with God created the Universe.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What time is it? Oh, it's Wednesday O'clock!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Days are the time???? That is the most stupidest thing I ever heard...
>>
>> They are their own time. The rate of one Earth's rotation.
>> Apparently You are more stupid than what you have heard.
>>
>> People shouldn't give you the time of the day then...
>> TeeHeeHee...
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
>
> Taking a day..and dividing it up into Time does not make a day...time.
>
> I thought I already explained...
>
> The problem with Time is...
> the science guys messed up Time.
> they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes,
> hours...nanoseconds!
>
> It appears to me Time doesn't exist, and it's just an , an invention of
> man.
>
> Days are not Time. Time is just the division of a day...a day divided by
> man...
>
> the earth does not ...tick.
>
Mitch and Starfaker arguing about if a day is or is not time!

This is going to be rich!
benj
2018-06-22 15:45:01 UTC
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On 6/22/2018 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 6/21/2018 8:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The problem with Time is...
>>> the science guys messed up Time.
>>>
>>> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
>>>
>>> they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes, hours...nanoseconds!
>>>
>>>
>>> What time do you got? You don't got my time...you got the wrong time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then you have ...days, which have nothing to do with time.
>>>
>> Days are the time that existed with God created the Universe.
>>
>
>
> What time is it? Oh, it's Wednesday O'clock!
>
> Days are the time???? That is the most stupidest thing I ever heard...

Hey, if God says making the universe took several "days" then who are
you to question it? It's like questioning the TV news. It's just not done.
The Starmaker
2018-06-22 18:25:51 UTC
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benj wrote:
>
> On 6/22/2018 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/21/2018 8:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The problem with Time is...
> >>> the science guys messed up Time.
> >>>
> >>> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
> >>>
> >>> they messed it up by dividing Time up in seconds, minutes, hours...nanoseconds!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What time do you got? You don't got my time...you got the wrong time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Then you have ...days, which have nothing to do with time.
> >>>
> >> Days are the time that existed with God created the Universe.
> >>
> >
> >
> > What time is it? Oh, it's Wednesday O'clock!
> >
> > Days are the time???? That is the most stupidest thing I ever heard...
>
> Hey, if God says making the universe took several "days" then who are
> you to question it? It's like questioning the TV news. It's just not done.


Is inglish your seventh language?

A day is from night to night or day to day...God didn't say it takes
...24 hours!


He was talking about earth rotation....not the time on His rolex watch.



And if the earth stopped rotating...
Keith Stein
2018-06-22 17:58:36 UTC
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On 22/06/2018 01:24, The Starmaker wrote:
> The problem with Time is...
> the science guys messed up Time.
>
> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...

Philosophers talk about time,
Science guys measure time, with clocks eh!

The mistake they made was to believe that
clocks are in any way affected by walking
towards or away from them.

Note that if clocks are not affected
by walking towards them, then the velocity
of light relative to you when you walk
towards the light must be c+v, not c eh!

keith stein
benj
2018-06-22 21:08:57 UTC
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On 6/22/2018 1:58 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 22/06/2018 01:24, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The problem with Time is...
>> the science guys messed up Time.
>>
>> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
>
> Philosophers talk about time,
> Science guys measure time, with clocks eh!
>
> The mistake they made was to believe that
> clocks are in any way affected by walking
> towards or away from them.
>
> Note that if clocks are not affected
> by walking towards them, then the velocity
> of light relative to you when you walk
> towards the light must be c+v, not c eh!
>
> keith stein

Obviously you are no more a philosopher than Starfaker.

The question is not are clocks affected by your motion with respect to
them but rather is your PERCEPTIOIN of their readings affected. There is
no aether drift so c+v Is ALWAYS totally stupid and wrong, wrong, wrong.
Keith Stein
2018-06-24 09:53:42 UTC
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On 22/06/2018 22:08, benj wrote:
> On 6/22/2018 1:58 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
>> On 22/06/2018 01:24, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The problem with Time is...
>>> the science guys messed up Time.
>>>
>>> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
>>
>> Philosophers talk about time,
>> Science guys measure time, with clocks eh!
>>
>> The mistake they made was to believe that
>> clocks are in any way affected by walking
>> towards or away from them.
>>
>> Note that if clocks are not affected
>> by walking towards them, then the velocity
>> of light relative to you when you walk
>> towards the light must be c+v, not c eh!
>>
>> keith stein
>
> Obviously you are no more a philosopher than Starfaker.
>
> The question is not are clocks affected by your motion with respect to
> them but rather is your PERCEPTIOIN of their readings affected.

Of course clocks APPEAR to run slower if you move away from them,
and the APPEAR to run faster when you move towards them. This is
the well understood DOPPLER EFFECT, and if you account for it correctly
then of course you do not require any relativistic time dilation.



> There is no aether drift

Agreed.

> so c+v Is ALWAYS totally stupid and wrong, wrong, wrong.

No! If clocks are not affected by walking towards them, then
c+v is INEVITABLE eh!

A<-------- L m ------------->B
TA TB

As viewed from stationary (laboratory) frame:
Speed of light = L / (TB-TA) = c

As viewed from frame of reference in which laboratory is moving to the
right at v m/s.
Light must travel an extra distance = v*(TB-TA)
This being the distance B moves as the light travels from A to B.

Therefore speed of light as viewed from frame of reference in which
laboratory is moving to the right at v m/s = c + v

keith stein
Sergio
2018-07-01 19:18:32 UTC
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On 6/24/2018 4:53 AM, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 22/06/2018 22:08, benj wrote:
>> On 6/22/2018 1:58 PM, Keith Stein wrote:
>>> On 22/06/2018 01:24, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> The problem with Time is...
>>>> the science guys messed up Time.
>>>>
>>>> The first mistake they made was trying to measure time...
>>>
>>> Philosophers talk about time,
>>> Science guys measure time, with clocks eh!
>>>
>>> The mistake they made was to believe that
>>> clocks are in any way affected by walking
>>> towards or away from them.
>>>
>>> Note that if clocks are not affected
>>> by walking towards them, then the velocity
>>> of light relative to you when you walk
>>> towards the light must be c+v, not c eh!
>>>
>>> keith stein
>>
>> Obviously you are no more a philosopher than Starfaker.
>>
>> The question is not are clocks affected by your motion with respect to
>> them but rather is your PERCEPTIOIN of their readings affected.
>
> Of course clocks APPEAR to run slower if you move away from them,
> and the APPEAR to run faster when you move towards them. This is
> the well understood DOPPLER EFFECT, and if you account for it correctly
> then of course you do not require any relativistic time dilation.
>
>
>
>> There is no aether drift
>
> Agreed.
>
>> so c+v Is ALWAYS totally stupid and wrong, wrong, wrong.
>
> No! If clocks are not affected by walking towards them, then
> c+v is INEVITABLE eh!
>
>                 A<-------- L m ------------->B
>                 TA                           TB
>
> As viewed from stationary (laboratory) frame:
>                 Speed of light = L / (TB-TA) = c
>
> As viewed from frame of reference in which laboratory is moving to the
> right at v m/s.
> Light must travel an extra distance               = v*(TB-TA)
> This being the distance B moves as the light travels from A to B.
>
> Therefore speed of light as viewed from frame of reference in which
> laboratory is moving to the right at v m/s = c + v
>
> keith stein
>


if you see a clock 20 feet away, you are 20 nanoseconds behind the time
it shows, as it takes about a nanosecond for light to travel 1 foot.

if the clock is atomic, with lighted numerics, and your 100 feet away,
then you are 100 nanoseconds late.

If you have 4 clocks around you 10 ft, 25 ft, 50 ft, 100 ft which
clock is right ?
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