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Kevrob
2017-02-28 23:45:00 UTC
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Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
thread title:

"Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut

I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
to be in "the other universe."

Kevin R
Titus G
2017-03-01 00:43:23 UTC
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On 01/03/17 12:45, Kevrob wrote:
> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
> thread title:
>
> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>
> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
> to be in "the other universe."

The one that Vonnegut was writing from?
Kevrob
2017-03-01 04:34:45 UTC
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On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 7:43:26 PM UTC-5, Titus G wrote:
> On 01/03/17 12:45, Kevrob wrote:
> > Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
> > thread title:
> >
> > "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
> > up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
> >
> > I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
> > to be in "the other universe."
>
> The one that Vonnegut was writing from?

Nah. Maybe one from the John Broome/Gardner Fox/Julie Schwartz
panoply of alternate worlds. I could have rocketed off with
Slipstick Libby or The Rolling Stones, or any continuum where the
conquest of outer space was happening faster. One where the c
speed limit could be worked around.

I'll skip exciting dystopias which are interesting to read about.
If you end up in one of those, and you aren't issued Plot Armor
by its designer, you can be a red shirt pretty quickly.†

There was plenty about "normal life" I liked. I was good in school.
I was far from the best athlete but I played all the normal sports
and games, rode my bike, swam, sang, etc. Still, when I looked
to the night sky I wanted to be out there, even if only in a used
space suit, like Kip Russell.

Kevin R

† I remember one of the scariest things I ever saw as a kid was
Larry "Buster" Crabbe, playing Buck Rogers, condemned by Killer
Kane to wear an amnesia helmet as part of the "Robot Battalion"
slave force, and forced to wipe the dictator's boot before being
consigned to the Dynamo Room. Episode 9: Bodies Without Minds!
Now, (SPOILER!) Buck got out of that fix, but that room was full
of poor schmoes who had crossed the Leader, and I bet I'd be
more likely to be have been turned into a human robot than turning
the tables on the Evil Overlord.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x38a9hb_buck-rogers-9-bodies-without-minds-1939-science-fiction-serial-film-buster-crabbe_shortfilms
Dorothy J Heydt
2017-03-01 00:17:43 UTC
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In article <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>thread title:
>
>"Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>
>I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
>to be in "the other universe."

As in, anywhere but here?

Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
"Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"

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djheydt at gmail dot com
Dimensional Traveler
2017-03-01 01:43:07 UTC
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On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>> thread title:
>>
>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>
>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
>> to be in "the other universe."
>
> As in, anywhere but here?
>
> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>
Does the friend like sheep?

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Don Bruder
2017-03-01 04:53:01 UTC
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In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:

> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
> > Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
> >> thread title:
> >>
> >> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
> >> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
> >>
> >> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
> >> to be in "the other universe."
> >
> > As in, anywhere but here?
> >
> > Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
> > "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
> >
> Does the friend like sheep?

Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like sheep"... :-P

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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2017-03-01 05:37:47 UTC
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In article <o95jvo$f98$***@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> > In article <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>> > Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>> >> thread title:
>> >>
>> >> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>> >> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>> >>
>> >> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
>> >> to be in "the other universe."
>> >
>> > As in, anywhere but here?
>> >
>> > Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
>> > "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>> >
>> Does the friend like sheep?
>
>Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like sheep"... :-P
>

Sheep lie!
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Titus G
2017-03-05 04:53:22 UTC
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On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob
>>> <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam thread
>>>> title:
>>>>
>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind up in
>>>> the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>
>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to be in
>>>> "the other universe."
>>>
>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>
>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
>>> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>>
>> Does the friend like sheep?
>
> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like sheep"...
> :-P

Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep population
has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and most of my clothes
that used to be are no longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an
expensive occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies
China now buys our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a
cesspool of cow shit.
Dimensional Traveler
2017-03-05 05:47:51 UTC
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On 3/4/2017 8:53 PM, Titus G wrote:
> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob
>>>> <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam thread
>>>>> title:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind up in
>>>>> the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>
>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to be in
>>>>> "the other universe."
>>>>
>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>
>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
>>>> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>>>
>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>
>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like sheep"...
>> :-P
>
> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep population
> has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and most of my clothes
> that used to be are no longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an
> expensive occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
> plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies
> China now buys our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
> farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a
> cesspool of cow shit.

Don't hold back, tell us how you _really_ feel. :)

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Titus G
2017-03-05 20:13:56 UTC
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On 05/03/17 18:47, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 3/4/2017 8:53 PM, Titus G wrote:
>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>, Kevrob
>>>>> <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam thread
>>>>>> title:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind up in
>>>>>> the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to be in
>>>>>> "the other universe."
>>>>>
>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
>>>>> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>>>>
>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>
>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like sheep"...
>>> :-P
>>
>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep population
>> has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and most of my clothes
>> that used to be are no longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an
>> expensive occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
>> plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies
>> China now buys our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
>> farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a
>> cesspool of cow shit.
>
> Don't hold back, tell us how you _really_ feel. :)

Alone.
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-05 06:09:00 UTC
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Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
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> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam thread
>>>>> title:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind up
>>>>> in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>
>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to be
>>>>> in "the other universe."
>>>>
>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>
>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New
>>>> Zealand?"
>>>>
>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>
>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>> sheep"...
>> :-P
>
> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep
> population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and
> most of my clothes that used to be are no longer woollen.
> Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional luxury due to
> scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and cheap, the
> opposite applies China now buys our milk powder and concentrated
> dairying replacing sheep farming has turned much of this
> snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
>
Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've ever
exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and wool is
very common. As you drive around the country, there are two things
you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see
any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if
it was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of both.)

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

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Robert Bannister
2017-03-07 02:39:29 UTC
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On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam thread
>>>>>> title:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind up
>>>>>> in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to be
>>>>>> in "the other universe."
>>>>>
>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New
>>>>> Zealand?"
>>>>>
>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>
>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>>> sheep"...
>>> :-P
>>
>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep
>> population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and
>> most of my clothes that used to be are no longer woollen.
>> Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional luxury due to
>> scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and cheap, the
>> opposite applies China now buys our milk powder and concentrated
>> dairying replacing sheep farming has turned much of this
>> snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
>>
> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've ever
> exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and wool is
> very common. As you drive around the country, there are two things
> you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see
> any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if
> it was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of both.)
>

Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get you a really
bad name.

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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-07 02:24:13 UTC
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Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
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> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>>>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>>>>>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to
>>>>>>> be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to
>>>>>> New Zealand?"
>>>>>>
>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>
>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>>>> sheep"...
>>>> :-P
>>>
>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep
>>> population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and
>>> most of my clothes that used to be are no longer woollen.
>>> Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional luxury due to
>>> scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and cheap, the
>>> opposite applies China now buys our milk powder and
>>> concentrated dairying replacing sheep farming has turned much
>>> of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a cesspool of
>>> cow shit.
>>>
>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've
>> ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and
>> wool is very common. As you drive around the country, there are
>> two things you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and sheep.
>> (I did not see any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but it
>> wouldn't surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just from
>> sheer numbers of both.)
>>
>
> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get you
> a really bad name.
>
I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl (which
would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Cryptoengineer
2017-03-07 04:00:53 UTC
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>>>>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>>>>>>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to
>>>>>>>> be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to
>>>>>>> New Zealand?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>>>>> sheep"...
>>>>> :-P
>>>>
>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep
>>>> population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and
>>>> most of my clothes that used to be are no longer woollen.
>>>> Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional luxury due to
>>>> scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and cheap, the
>>>> opposite applies China now buys our milk powder and
>>>> concentrated dairying replacing sheep farming has turned much
>>>> of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a cesspool of
>>>> cow shit.
>>>>
>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've
>>> ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and
>>> wool is very common. As you drive around the country, there are
>>> two things you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and sheep.
>>> (I did not see any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but it
>>> wouldn't surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just from
>>> sheer numbers of both.)
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get you
>> a really bad name.
>>
> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl (which
> would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
>

BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in convenience
stores, ala beef jerky.

I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of brennvin on the
side.

The brennvin was needed.

pt
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-07 15:40:00 UTC
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Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:***@69.16.179.42:
>
>> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
>> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
>>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>>>>>>>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
>>>>>>>>> to be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to
>>>>>>>> New Zealand?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>>>>>> sheep"...
>>>>>> :-P
>>>>>
>>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
>>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc,
>>>>> etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no longer
>>>>> woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional
>>>>> luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and
>>>>> cheap, the opposite applies China now buys our milk powder
>>>>> and concentrated dairying replacing sheep farming has turned
>>>>> much of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a
>>>>> cesspool of cow shit.
>>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've
>>>> ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and
>>>> wool is very common. As you drive around the country, there
>>>> are two things you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and
>>>> sheep. (I did not see any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but
>>>> it wouldn't surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just
>>>> from sheer numbers of both.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
>>> you a really bad name.
>>>
>> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
>> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl
>> (which would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
>>
>
> BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
> convenience stores, ala beef jerky.

I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I never
noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
>
> I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of brennvin
> on the side.
>
> The brennvin was needed.
>
Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very nutrious and
packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any glacier hiking, I
didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal to take *out* of
Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any other country except
Japan.)

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Peter Trei
2017-03-07 18:00:22 UTC
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> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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> > Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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> >
> >> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> >> news:***@mid.individual.net:
> >>
> >>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> >>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
> >>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
> >>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
> >>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In article
> >>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
> >>>>>>>>> thread title:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
> >>>>>>>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
> >>>>>>>>> to be in "the other universe."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
> >>>>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to
> >>>>>>>> New Zealand?"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
> >>>>>> sheep"...
> >>>>>> :-P
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
> >>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc,
> >>>>> etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no longer
> >>>>> woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional
> >>>>> luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and
> >>>>> cheap, the opposite applies China now buys our milk powder
> >>>>> and concentrated dairying replacing sheep farming has turned
> >>>>> much of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a
> >>>>> cesspool of cow shit.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've
> >>>> ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and
> >>>> wool is very common. As you drive around the country, there
> >>>> are two things you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and
> >>>> sheep. (I did not see any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but
> >>>> it wouldn't surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just
> >>>> from sheer numbers of both.)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
> >>> you a really bad name.
> >>>
> >> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
> >> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl
> >> (which would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
> >>
> >
> > BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
> > convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
>
> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I never
> noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
> >
> > I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of brennvin
> > on the side.
> >
> > The brennvin was needed.
> >
> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very nutrious and
> packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any glacier hiking, I
> didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal to take *out* of
> Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any other country except
> Japan.)

Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.

We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic fare', and
my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what it was, but
when it actually arrived, she squicked out. I'd foreseen this as a
possible outcome, so had ordered a steak for myself. An offer to trade
plates was gratefully accepted. It was tasty.

pt
Quadibloc
2017-03-07 19:09:29 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei wrote:

> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic fare', and
> my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what it was, but
> when it actually arrived, she squicked out.

I couldn't find a special meaning of the world for Icelandic cuisine in a quick
web search. I can see a young girl not wanting to eat horsemeat, but since it
would look just like any other meat, for the reaction to take place on its
arrival makes me think I'm misunderstanding, and something else, rather than the
equine version of veal, was being served.

John Savard
Moriarty
2017-03-07 21:18:06 UTC
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On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 6:09:31 AM UTC+11, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei wrote:
>
> > We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic fare', and
> > my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what it was, but
> > when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>
> I couldn't find a special meaning of the world for Icelandic cuisine in a quick
> web search. I can see a young girl not wanting to eat horsemeat, but since it
> would look just like any other meat, for the reaction to take place on its
> arrival makes me think I'm misunderstanding, and something else, rather than the
> equine version of veal, was being served.

Well, if *I* was in that situation I'd let my daughter take a bite and then casually ask "So, how's the horse?"

-Moriarty
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-07 21:19:17 UTC
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Moriarty <***@ivillage.com> wrote in
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> On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 6:09:31 AM UTC+11, Quadibloc
> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei
>> wrote:
>>
>> > We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
>> > fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know
>> > what it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>>
>> I couldn't find a special meaning of the world for Icelandic
>> cuisine in a quick web search. I can see a young girl not
>> wanting to eat horsemeat, but since it would look just like any
>> other meat, for the reaction to take place on its arrival makes
>> me think I'm misunderstanding, and something else, rather than
>> the equine version of veal, was being served.
>
> Well, if *I* was in that situation I'd let my daughter take a
> bite and then casually ask "So, how's the horse?"
>
Note that, while horse is not excatly a staple meat there (like lamb
and fish), it is fairly common, and available at all fine
restaurants.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Cryptoengineer
2017-03-08 04:52:39 UTC
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Moriarty <***@ivillage.com> wrote in
news:ad1b1e8a-dc8c-439f-8cb7-***@googlegroups.com:

> On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 6:09:31 AM UTC+11, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei wrote:
>>
>> > We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
>> > fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what it
>> > was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>>
>> I couldn't find a special meaning of the world for Icelandic cuisine
>> in a quick web search. I can see a young girl not wanting to eat
>> horsemeat, but since it would look just like any other meat, for the
>> reaction to take place on its arrival makes me think I'm
>> misunderstanding, and something else, rather than the equine version
>> of veal, was being served.
>
> Well, if *I* was in that situation I'd let my daughter take a bite and
> then casually ask "So, how's the horse?"
>
> -Moriarty

She knew what it was, but between ordering and taking a bite, had
second thoughts.

pt
Cryptoengineer
2017-03-08 04:51:45 UTC
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Quadibloc <***@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
news:df2ff4d5-f251-4bba-b8fe-***@googlegroups.com:

> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei wrote:
>
>> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic fare',
>> and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what it was, but
>> when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>
> I couldn't find a special meaning of the world for Icelandic cuisine
> in a quick web search. I can see a young girl not wanting to eat
> horsemeat, but since it would look just like any other meat, for the
> reaction to take place on its arrival makes me think I'm
> misunderstanding, and something else, rather than the equine version
> of veal, was being served.
>
> John Savard

It was horsemeat - baby horsemeat.

Your areas of inexperience clearly extend to tween girls. She was OK
with foal in theory, but when it was placed in front of her, she
changed her mind.

pt
Titus G
2017-03-08 05:48:07 UTC
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On 08/03/17 17:51, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> Quadibloc <***@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
> news:df2ff4d5-f251-4bba-b8fe-***@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei wrote:
>>
>>> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic fare',
>>> and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what it was, but
>>> when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>>
>> I couldn't find a special meaning of the world for Icelandic cuisine
>> in a quick web search. I can see a young girl not wanting to eat
>> horsemeat, but since it would look just like any other meat, for the
>> reaction to take place on its arrival makes me think I'm
>> misunderstanding, and something else, rather than the equine version
>> of veal, was being served.
>>
>> John Savard
>
> It was horsemeat - baby horsemeat.
>
> Your areas of inexperience clearly extend to tween girls. She was OK
> with foal in theory, but when it was placed in front of her, she
> changed her mind.

Which is what you wrote originally. But coldblooded Quadibloc has a
better knowledge and understanding of what happened at that restaurant
than you despite not being there.

From another thread:
Aristotle was famous for knowing everything. He taught
that the brain exists merely to cool the blood and is not
involved in the process of thinking. This is true only
of certain persons.
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-08 05:41:02 UTC
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Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
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> On 08/03/17 17:51, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> Quadibloc <***@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>> news:df2ff4d5-f251-4bba-b8fe-***@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-7, Peter Trei
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
>>>> fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know
>>>> what it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>>>
>>> I couldn't find a special meaning of the world for Icelandic
>>> cuisine in a quick web search. I can see a young girl not
>>> wanting to eat horsemeat, but since it would look just like
>>> any other meat, for the reaction to take place on its arrival
>>> makes me think I'm misunderstanding, and something else,
>>> rather than the equine version of veal, was being served.
>>>
>>> John Savard
>>
>> It was horsemeat - baby horsemeat.
>>
>> Your areas of inexperience clearly extend to tween girls. She
>> was OK with foal in theory, but when it was placed in front of
>> her, she changed her mind.
>
> Which is what you wrote originally. But coldblooded Quadibloc
> has a better knowledge and understanding of what happened at
> that restaurant than you despite not being there.

And knows more about women than anyone else, ever, past present or
future. And men, for that matter.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Juho Julkunen
2017-03-08 13:26:47 UTC
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In article <***@69.16.179.42>,
***@gmail.com says...
>
> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
> news:o9o5pg$ktn$***@dont-email.me:

> > Which is what you wrote originally. But coldblooded Quadibloc
> > has a better knowledge and understanding of what happened at
> > that restaurant than you despite not being there.
>
> And knows more about women than anyone else, ever, past present or
> future. And men, for that matter.

Men, certainly; who else has found the solution to men's enduring
happiness, and can tell which men qualify for it?

--
Juho Julkunen
Quadibloc
2017-03-08 06:50:56 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 9:51:54 PM UTC-7, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> She was OK
> with foal in theory, but when it was placed in front of her, she
> changed her mind.

Yes, upon reflection I realized that I minimized emotional and psychological
factors - the arrival of the dish making the choice "more real", as it were - and
expected that the story implied that the dish, when presented, was somehow
disgusting in appearance or smell, thus presenting new information that resulted
in the changed decision.

John Savard
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-07 21:18:21 UTC
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Peter Trei <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella
> Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:***@216.166.97.131:
>>
>> > Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote
>> > in news:***@69.16.179.42:
>> >
>> >> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
>> >> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>> >>
>> >>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> >>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>> >>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>> >>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
>> >>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> In article
>> >>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>
>> >>>>>>>> , Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>> >>>>>>>>> thread title:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to
>> >>>>>>>>> wind up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later)
>> >>>>>>>>> aching to be in "the other universe."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a
>> >>>>>>>> depressed friend, "Would it make any difference if you
>> >>>>>>>> emigrated to New Zealand?"
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend
>> >>>>>> like sheep"...
>> >>>>>> :-P
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
>> >>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding,
>> >>>>> etc, etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no
>> >>>>> longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive
>> >>>>> occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
>> >>>>> plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies China now buys
>> >>>>> our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
>> >>>>> farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden
>> >>>>> of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if
>> >>>> they've ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple
>> >>>> meat, and wool is very common. As you drive around the
>> >>>> country, there are two things you will see every few
>> >>>> miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see any sheep
>> >>>> going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if it
>> >>>> was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of both.)
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
>> >>> you a really bad name.
>> >>>
>> >> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention
>> >> lobster pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or
>> >> kÊstur hákarl (which would distract anyone with a working
>> >> sense of smell).
>> >>
>> >
>> > BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
>> > convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
>>
>> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I never
>> noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
>> >
>> > I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of
>> > brennvin on the side.
>> >
>> > The brennvin was needed.
>> >
>> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very nutrious
>> and packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any glacier
>> hiking, I didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal to take
>> *out* of Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any other country
>> except Japan.)
>
> Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.
>
> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
> fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what
> it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out. I'd
> foreseen this as a possible outcome, so had ordered a steak for
> myself. An offer to trade plates was gratefully accepted. It was
> tasty.
>
That's be horse? When my parents were there, before I was born, my
mother got horse meat from the butcher shop once, because she
didn't speak a word of icelandic. So she'd point at what looked
good. Apparently, the correct way to prepare horse meat is to pound
it with a hammer for a day or two, then boil it for a few days
more. Otherwise, it's like eating shoe leather.

My mom learned some icelandic after that.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Sjouke Burry
2017-03-07 22:21:48 UTC
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On 07.03.17 22:18, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Peter Trei <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:d3909106-2662-4b22-9b09-***@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella
>> Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:***@216.166.97.131:
>>>
>>>> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> in news:***@69.16.179.42:
>>>>
>>>>> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>>>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
>>>>>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> , Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> wind up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later)
>>>>>>>>>>>> aching to be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a
>>>>>>>>>>> depressed friend, "Would it make any difference if you
>>>>>>>>>>> emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend
>>>>>>>>> like sheep"...
>>>>>>>>> :-P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
>>>>>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding,
>>>>>>>> etc, etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no
>>>>>>>> longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive
>>>>>>>> occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
>>>>>>>> plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies China now buys
>>>>>>>> our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
>>>>>>>> farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden
>>>>>>>> of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if
>>>>>>> they've ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple
>>>>>>> meat, and wool is very common. As you drive around the
>>>>>>> country, there are two things you will see every few
>>>>>>> miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see any sheep
>>>>>>> going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if it
>>>>>>> was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of both.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
>>>>>> you a really bad name.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention
>>>>> lobster pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or
>>>>> kæstur hákarl (which would distract anyone with a working
>>>>> sense of smell).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
>>>> convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
>>>
>>> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I never
>>> noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
>>>>
>>>> I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of
>>>> brennvin on the side.
>>>>
>>>> The brennvin was needed.
>>>>
>>> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very nutrious
>>> and packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any glacier
>>> hiking, I didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal to take
>>> *out* of Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any other country
>>> except Japan.)
>>
>> Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.
>>
>> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
>> fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what
>> it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out. I'd
>> foreseen this as a possible outcome, so had ordered a steak for
>> myself. An offer to trade plates was gratefully accepted. It was
>> tasty.
>>
> That's be horse? When my parents were there, before I was born, my
> mother got horse meat from the butcher shop once, because she
> didn't speak a word of icelandic. So she'd point at what looked
> good. Apparently, the correct way to prepare horse meat is to pound
> it with a hammer for a day or two, then boil it for a few days
> more. Otherwise, it's like eating shoe leather.
>
> My mom learned some icelandic after that.
>
Tsssk.... In a pressure cooker it takes about 10-20 minutes
to tenderize it.
And it tastes just fine.
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Sjouke Burry <***@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote in
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> On 07.03.17 22:18, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>> Peter Trei <***@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:d3909106-2662-4b22-9b09-***@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Gutless
>>> Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:***@216.166.97.131:
>>>>
>>>>> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> in news:***@69.16.179.42:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>>>>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
>>>>>>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> > , Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wind up in the other universe, would you?" -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vonnegut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aching to be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> depressed friend, "Would it make any difference if
>>>>>>>>>>>> you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend
>>>>>>>>>> like sheep"...
>>>>>>>>>> :-P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
>>>>>>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding,
>>>>>>>>> etc, etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no
>>>>>>>>> longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive
>>>>>>>>> occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality
>>>>>>>>> lamb plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies China now
>>>>>>>>> buys our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing
>>>>>>>>> sheep farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish
>>>>>>>>> Garden of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if
>>>>>>>> they've ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a
>>>>>>>> staple meat, and wool is very common. As you drive around
>>>>>>>> the country, there are two things you will see every few
>>>>>>>> miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see any sheep
>>>>>>>> going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if
>>>>>>>> it was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of
>>>>>>>> both.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would
>>>>>>> get you a really bad name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention
>>>>>> lobster pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or
>>>>>> kÊstur hákarl (which would distract anyone with a working
>>>>>> sense of smell).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
>>>>> convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
>>>>
>>>> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I
>>>> never noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of
>>>>> brennvin on the side.
>>>>>
>>>>> The brennvin was needed.
>>>>>
>>>> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very
>>>> nutrious and packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any
>>>> glacier hiking, I didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal
>>>> to take *out* of Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any
>>>> other country except Japan.)
>>>
>>> Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.
>>>
>>> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
>>> fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know
>>> what it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>>> I'd foreseen this as a possible outcome, so had ordered a
>>> steak for myself. An offer to trade plates was gratefully
>>> accepted. It was tasty.
>>>
>> That's be horse? When my parents were there, before I was born,
>> my mother got horse meat from the butcher shop once, because
>> she didn't speak a word of icelandic. So she'd point at what
>> looked good. Apparently, the correct way to prepare horse meat
>> is to pound it with a hammer for a day or two, then boil it for
>> a few days more. Otherwise, it's like eating shoe leather.
>>
>> My mom learned some icelandic after that.
>>
> Tsssk.... In a pressure cooker it takes about 10-20 minutes
> to tenderize it.
> And it tastes just fine.
>
Well, it didn't help any that my mother, rest her soul, couldn't
boil water without burning the pad.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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> Peter Trei <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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>
>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella
>> Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:***@216.166.97.131:
>>>
>>> > Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote
>>> > in news:***@69.16.179.42:
>>> >
>>> >> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
>>> >> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>>> >>
>>> >>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> >>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>> >>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>> >>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
>>> >>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> In article
>>> >>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>
>>> >>>>>>>> , Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>> >>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to
>>> >>>>>>>>> wind up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later)
>>> >>>>>>>>> aching to be in "the other universe."
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a
>>> >>>>>>>> depressed friend, "Would it make any difference if you
>>> >>>>>>>> emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend
>>> >>>>>> like sheep"...
>>> >>>>>> :-P
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
>>> >>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding,
>>> >>>>> etc, etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no
>>> >>>>> longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive
>>> >>>>> occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
>>> >>>>> plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies China now buys
>>> >>>>> our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
>>> >>>>> farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden
>>> >>>>> of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if
>>> >>>> they've ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple
>>> >>>> meat, and wool is very common. As you drive around the
>>> >>>> country, there are two things you will see every few
>>> >>>> miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see any sheep
>>> >>>> going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if it
>>> >>>> was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of both.)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
>>> >>> you a really bad name.
>>> >>>
>>> >> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention
>>> >> lobster pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or
>>> >> kÊstur hákarl (which would distract anyone with a working
>>> >> sense of smell).
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
>>> > convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
>>>
>>> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I never
>>> noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
>>> >
>>> > I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of
>>> > brennvin on the side.
>>> >
>>> > The brennvin was needed.
>>> >
>>> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very nutrious
>>> and packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any glacier
>>> hiking, I didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal to take
>>> *out* of Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any other country
>>> except Japan.)
>>
>> Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.
>>
>> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
>> fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what
>> it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out. I'd
>> foreseen this as a possible outcome, so had ordered a steak for
>> myself. An offer to trade plates was gratefully accepted. It was
>> tasty.
>>
> That's be horse? When my parents were there, before I was born, my
> mother got horse meat from the butcher shop once, because she
> didn't speak a word of icelandic. So she'd point at what looked
> good. Apparently, the correct way to prepare horse meat is to pound
> it with a hammer for a day or two, then boil it for a few days
> more. Otherwise, it's like eating shoe leather.
>
> My mom learned some icelandic after that.
>

The difference between foal and horse is similar to that between
beef and veal. One is much tenderer than the other.

pt
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2017-03-08 04:16:11 UTC
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> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:***@69.16.179.43:
>
>> Peter Trei <***@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:d3909106-2662-4b22-9b09-***@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Gutless
>>> Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:***@216.166.97.131:
>>>>
>>>> > Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> > in news:***@69.16.179.42:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
>>>> >> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> >>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>>> >>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
>>>> >>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> In article
>>>> >>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.co
>>>> >>>>>>>> m> , Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a
>>>> >>>>>>>>> spam thread title:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to
>>>> >>>>>>>>> wind up in the other universe, would you?" -
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vonnegut
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later)
>>>> >>>>>>>>> aching to be in "the other universe."
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a
>>>> >>>>>>>> depressed friend, "Would it make any difference if
>>>> >>>>>>>> you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend
>>>> >>>>>> like sheep"...
>>>> >>>>>> :-P
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
>>>> >>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding,
>>>> >>>>> etc, etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no
>>>> >>>>> longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive
>>>> >>>>> occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality
>>>> >>>>> lamb plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies China
>>>> >>>>> now buys our milk powder and concentrated dairying
>>>> >>>>> replacing sheep farming has turned much of this
>>>> >>>>> snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a cesspool of
>>>> >>>>> cow shit.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if
>>>> >>>> they've ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a
>>>> >>>> staple meat, and wool is very common. As you drive
>>>> >>>> around the country, there are two things you will see
>>>> >>>> every few miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see
>>>> >>>> any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't
>>>> >>>> surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just from
>>>> >>>> sheer numbers of both.)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would
>>>> >>> get you a really bad name.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention
>>>> >> lobster pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or
>>>> >> kÊstur hákarl (which would distract anyone with a
>>>> >> working sense of smell).
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
>>>> > convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
>>>>
>>>> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I
>>>> never noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
>>>> >
>>>> > I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of
>>>> > brennvin on the side.
>>>> >
>>>> > The brennvin was needed.
>>>> >
>>>> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very
>>>> nutrious and packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any
>>>> glacier hiking, I didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal
>>>> to take *out* of Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any
>>>> other country except Japan.)
>>>
>>> Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.
>>>
>>> We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
>>> fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know
>>> what it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out.
>>> I'd foreseen this as a possible outcome, so had ordered a
>>> steak for myself. An offer to trade plates was gratefully
>>> accepted. It was tasty.
>>>
>> That's be horse? When my parents were there, before I was born,
>> my mother got horse meat from the butcher shop once, because
>> she didn't speak a word of icelandic. So she'd point at what
>> looked good. Apparently, the correct way to prepare horse meat
>> is to pound it with a hammer for a day or two, then boil it for
>> a few days more. Otherwise, it's like eating shoe leather.
>>
>> My mom learned some icelandic after that.
>>
>
> The difference between foal and horse is similar to that between
> beef and veal. One is much tenderer than the other.
>
Makes sense. I don't recall seeing either anyplace I ate, but I
didn't go to a lot of "nice" restaurants, being more intereted in
getting to the next waterfall.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
William Hyde
2017-03-10 05:01:25 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 5:18:23 PM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Peter Trei <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:d3909106-2662-4b22-9b09-***@googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella
> > Carrying Sissy wrote:
> >> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:***@216.166.97.131:
> >>
> >> > Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote
> >> > in news:***@69.16.179.42:
> >> >
> >> >> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:***@mid.individual.net:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> >> >>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
> >> >>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
> >> >>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
> >> >>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> In article
> >> >>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>
> >> >>>>>>>> , Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
> >> >>>>>>>>> thread title:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to
> >> >>>>>>>>> wind up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later)
> >> >>>>>>>>> aching to be in "the other universe."
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a
> >> >>>>>>>> depressed friend, "Would it make any difference if you
> >> >>>>>>>> emigrated to New Zealand?"
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend
> >> >>>>>> like sheep"...
> >> >>>>>> :-P
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
> >> >>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding,
> >> >>>>> etc, etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no
> >> >>>>> longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive
> >> >>>>> occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
> >> >>>>> plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies China now buys
> >> >>>>> our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
> >> >>>>> farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden
> >> >>>>> of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if
> >> >>>> they've ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple
> >> >>>> meat, and wool is very common. As you drive around the
> >> >>>> country, there are two things you will see every few
> >> >>>> miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see any sheep
> >> >>>> going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if it
> >> >>>> was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of both.)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
> >> >>> you a really bad name.
> >> >>>
> >> >> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention
> >> >> lobster pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or
> >> >> kæstur hákarl (which would distract anyone with a working
> >> >> sense of smell).
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
> >> > convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
> >>
> >> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I never
> >> noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
> >> >
> >> > I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of
> >> > brennvin on the side.
> >> >
> >> > The brennvin was needed.
> >> >
> >> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very nutrious
> >> and packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any glacier
> >> hiking, I didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal to take
> >> *out* of Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any other country
> >> except Japan.)
> >
> > Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.
> >
> > We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
> > fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what
> > it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out. I'd
> > foreseen this as a possible outcome, so had ordered a steak for
> > myself. An offer to trade plates was gratefully accepted. It was
> > tasty.
> >
> That's be horse? When my parents were there, before I was born, my
> mother got horse meat from the butcher shop once, because she
> didn't speak a word of icelandic. So she'd point at what looked
> good. Apparently, the correct way to prepare horse meat is to pound
> it with a hammer for a day or two, then boil it for a few days
> more. Otherwise, it's like eating shoe leather.

A couple of butchers in this area sell horse meat for human consumption. One even had a picture of a horse on it's old sign, but the new sign is more discreet.

I have a number of recipes for horse in the raft of cookbooks I inherited. I don't see myself giving them a try any time soon. Or the recipe for lion steaks, brief as it is.

William Hyde
Peter Trei
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On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 12:01:27 AM UTC-5, William Hyde wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 5:18:23 PM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> > Peter Trei <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:d3909106-2662-4b22-9b09-***@googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Gutless Umbrella
> > > Carrying Sissy wrote:
> > >> Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> > >> news:***@216.166.97.131:
> > >>
> > >> > Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote
> > >> > in news:***@69.16.179.42:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> > >> >> news:***@mid.individual.net:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> > >> >>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
> > >> >>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
> > >> >>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>> In article
> > >> >>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>
> > >> >>>>>>>> , Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
> > >> >>>>>>>>> thread title:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to
> > >> >>>>>>>>> wind up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later)
> > >> >>>>>>>>> aching to be in "the other universe."
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a
> > >> >>>>>>>> depressed friend, "Would it make any difference if you
> > >> >>>>>>>> emigrated to New Zealand?"
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend
> > >> >>>>>> like sheep"...
> > >> >>>>>> :-P
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
> > >> >>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding,
> > >> >>>>> etc, etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no
> > >> >>>>> longer woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive
> > >> >>>>> occasional luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb
> > >> >>>>> plentiful and cheap, the opposite applies China now buys
> > >> >>>>> our milk powder and concentrated dairying replacing sheep
> > >> >>>>> farming has turned much of this snakeless sheepish Garden
> > >> >>>>> of Eden into a cesspool of cow shit.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if
> > >> >>>> they've ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple
> > >> >>>> meat, and wool is very common. As you drive around the
> > >> >>>> country, there are two things you will see every few
> > >> >>>> miles: waterfalls, and sheep. (I did not see any sheep
> > >> >>>> going *over* waterfalls, but it wouldn't surprise me if it
> > >> >>>> was a regular occurance, just from sheer numbers of both.)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
> > >> >>> you a really bad name.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention
> > >> >> lobster pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or
> > >> >> kæstur hákarl (which would distract anyone with a working
> > >> >> sense of smell).
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > BTDT. What astonished me was seeing the stuff for sale in
> > >> > convenience stores, ala beef jerky.
> > >>
> > >> I missed that. Well, I didn't miss it in the least, but I never
> > >> noticed it. Perhaps because I wasn't looking.
> > >> >
> > >> > I did try it, probably waaay overpriced, with a shot of
> > >> > brennvin on the side.
> > >> >
> > >> > The brennvin was needed.
> > >> >
> > >> Did you try whale jerky, too? I've read that it's very nutrious
> > >> and packs a lot of energy, but as I didn't do any glacier
> > >> hiking, I didn't feel the need. (And while it's legal to take
> > >> *out* of Iceland, it'l illegal to take *into* any other country
> > >> except Japan.)
> > >
> > > Nope. I would have if it had been offered though.
> > >
> > > We went to one restaurant which served 'traditional Icelandic
> > > fare', and my younger daughter ordered 'foal'. She did know what
> > > it was, but when it actually arrived, she squicked out. I'd
> > > foreseen this as a possible outcome, so had ordered a steak for
> > > myself. An offer to trade plates was gratefully accepted. It was
> > > tasty.
> > >
> > That's be horse? When my parents were there, before I was born, my
> > mother got horse meat from the butcher shop once, because she
> > didn't speak a word of icelandic. So she'd point at what looked
> > good. Apparently, the correct way to prepare horse meat is to pound
> > it with a hammer for a day or two, then boil it for a few days
> > more. Otherwise, it's like eating shoe leather.
>
> A couple of butchers in this area sell horse meat for human consumption. One even had a picture of a horse on it's old sign, but the new sign is more discreet.
>
> I have a number of recipes for horse in the raft of cookbooks I inherited. I don't see myself giving them a try any time soon. Or the recipe for lion steaks, brief as it is.

I tried lion (and a variety of other exotic meats) at a restaurant in NYC
which was doing a 'Game Week'. It was much better than I expected.

pt
Anthony Nance
2017-03-10 14:12:49 UTC
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William Hyde <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> I have a number of recipes for horse in the raft of cookbooks I inherited.
> I don't see myself giving them a try any time soon. Or the recipe for lion
> steaks, brief as it is.


Step 1: Find a lion?
Dimensional Traveler
2017-03-10 15:37:23 UTC
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On 3/10/2017 6:12 AM, Anthony Nance wrote:
> William Hyde <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I have a number of recipes for horse in the raft of cookbooks I inherited.
>> I don't see myself giving them a try any time soon. Or the recipe for lion
>> steaks, brief as it is.
>
>
> Step 1: Find a lion?
>
Step 2: Don't get eaten by lion.

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 07:37:23 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
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>On 3/10/2017 6:12 AM, Anthony Nance wrote:
>> William Hyde <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I have a number of recipes for horse in the raft of cookbooks I inherited.
>>> I don't see myself giving them a try any time soon. Or the recipe for lion
>>> steaks, brief as it is.
>>
>>
>> Step 1: Find a lion?
>>
>Step 2: Don't get eaten by lion.

Turnabout is fair play.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
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***@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) wrote in
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> William Hyde <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I have a number of recipes for horse in the raft of cookbooks I
>> inherited. I don't see myself giving them a try any time soon.
>> Or the recipe for lion steaks, brief as it is.
>
>
> Step 1: Find a lion?

Step 0: Don't let the lion find you.

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In article <***@69.16.179.43>,
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>***@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) wrote in
>news:o9uc91$vme$***@dont-email.me:
>
>> William Hyde <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I have a number of recipes for horse in the raft of cookbooks I
>>> inherited. I don't see myself giving them a try any time soon.
>>> Or the recipe for lion steaks, brief as it is.
>>
>>
>> Step 1: Find a lion?
>
>Step 0: Don't let the lion find you.
>

Elephant Stew:

1) Dice medium sized elephant into small cubes.
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>>>>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>>>>>>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to
>>>>>>>> be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to
>>>>>>> New Zealand?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>>>>> sheep"...
>>>>> :-P
>>>>
>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep
>>>> population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and
>>>> most of my clothes that used to be are no longer woollen.
>>>> Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional luxury due to
>>>> scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and cheap, the
>>>> opposite applies China now buys our milk powder and
>>>> concentrated dairying replacing sheep farming has turned much
>>>> of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a cesspool of
>>>> cow shit.
>>>>
>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've
>>> ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and
>>> wool is very common. As you drive around the country, there are
>>> two things you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and sheep.
>>> (I did not see any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but it
>>> wouldn't surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just from
>>> sheer numbers of both.)
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get you
>> a really bad name.
>>
> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl (which
> would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
>

Yes, you're missing are reference. This is it, slightly obfuscated:

http://tinyurl.com/zlne5o6

pt
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-07 15:41:15 UTC
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Cryptoengineer <***@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <***@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:***@69.16.179.42:
>
>> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
>> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional
>>>>>> Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>>>>>>>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
>>>>>>>>> to be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to
>>>>>>>> New Zealand?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>>>>>> sheep"...
>>>>>> :-P
>>>>>
>>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our
>>>>> sheep population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc,
>>>>> etc and most of my clothes that used to be are no longer
>>>>> woollen. Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional
>>>>> luxury due to scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and
>>>>> cheap, the opposite applies China now buys our milk powder
>>>>> and concentrated dairying replacing sheep farming has turned
>>>>> much of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a
>>>>> cesspool of cow shit.
>>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've
>>>> ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and
>>>> wool is very common. As you drive around the country, there
>>>> are two things you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and
>>>> sheep. (I did not see any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but
>>>> it wouldn't surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just
>>>> from sheer numbers of both.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get
>>> you a really bad name.
>>>
>> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
>> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl
>> (which would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
>>
>
> Yes, you're missing are reference. This is it, slightly
> obfuscated:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zlne5o6
>
I see. That makes far too much sense for the interent. It's wrong
of you to break the rules like that.

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Robert Bannister
2017-03-09 03:17:49 UTC
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On 7/3/17 10:24 am, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Robert Bannister <***@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> news:***@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 5/3/17 2:09 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
>>> Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
>>> news:o9g5ge$lo3$***@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 01/03/17 17:53, Don Bruder wrote:
>>>>> In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>>>>> <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>>>>>>> thread title:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>>>>>>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching to
>>>>>>>> be in "the other universe."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed
>>>>>>> friend, "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to
>>>>>>> New Zealand?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the friend like sheep?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or perhaps more important, "HOW MUCH does the friend like
>>>>> sheep"...
>>>>> :-P
>>>>
>>>> Since Brentrance and since Clinton imposed tariffs, our sheep
>>>> population has plummeted. My carpet, my bedding, etc, etc and
>>>> most of my clothes that used to be are no longer woollen.
>>>> Whereas once chicken was an expensive occasional luxury due to
>>>> scarcity and export quality lamb plentiful and cheap, the
>>>> opposite applies China now buys our milk powder and
>>>> concentrated dairying replacing sheep farming has turned much
>>>> of this snakeless sheepish Garden of Eden into a cesspool of
>>>> cow shit.
>>>>
>>> Perhaps you should move to Iceland. I don't know if they've
>>> ever exported sheep products, but lamb is a staple meat, and
>>> wool is very common. As you drive around the country, there are
>>> two things you will see every few miles: waterfalls, and sheep.
>>> (I did not see any sheep going *over* waterfalls, but it
>>> wouldn't surprise me if it was a regular occurance, just from
>>> sheer numbers of both.)
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the sort of place where just one goat would get you
>> a really bad name.
>>
> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl (which
> would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
>

I love lobsters (not in any sexual sense, you understand).

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Titus G
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On 09/03/17 16:17, Robert Bannister wrote:
> On 7/3/17 10:24 am, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
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>> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
>> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl (which
>> would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).

> I love lobsters (not in any sexual sense, you understand).

So you think that they are just meat that exists for your pleasure?
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Titus G <***@nowhere.com> wrote in
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> On 09/03/17 16:17, Robert Bannister wrote:
>> On 7/3/17 10:24 am, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> snip
>>> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
>>> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl
>>> (which would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
>
>> I love lobsters (not in any sexual sense, you understand).
>
> So you think that they are just meat that exists for your
> pleasure?
>
Yes.

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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

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Robert Bannister
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On 9/3/17 12:17 pm, Titus G wrote:
> On 09/03/17 16:17, Robert Bannister wrote:
>> On 7/3/17 10:24 am, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> snip
>>> I think I'm missing a reference there, so I'll mention lobster
>>> pizze, to distrat you. (It was delicious.) Or kæstur hákarl (which
>>> would distract anyone with a working sense of smell).
>
>> I love lobsters (not in any sexual sense, you understand).
>
> So you think that they are just meat that exists for your pleasure?
>
>
Ooh! You are naughty, but I like you.

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Dorothy J Heydt
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In article <o958rk$t1t$***@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <***@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 2/28/2017 4:17 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <ed99a412-1a18-4794-b449-***@googlegroups.com>,
>> Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>>> thread title:
>>>
>>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>>
>>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
>>> to be in "the other universe."
>>
>> As in, anywhere but here?
>>
>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
>> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>>
>Does the friend like sheep?

Damfino, Jo didn't name his/her name.

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Steve Coltrin
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***@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:

> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"

On the one hand, that seems like a really shitty thing to say.

On the other hand, I've seen it said that for more than a few people
at the South Pole, the thought process that led them to go there started
with "What's the farthest away I can get from these assholes?"

On the gripping hand, I know someone who overwintered there and they don't
think such people would get through the psych screens.

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Dorothy J Heydt
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Steve Coltrin <***@omcl.org> wrote:
>begin fnord
>***@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>
>> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
>> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
>
>On the one hand, that seems like a really shitty thing to say.
>
>On the other hand, I've seen it said that for more than a few people
>at the South Pole, the thought process that led them to go there started
>with "What's the farthest away I can get from these assholes?"
>
>On the gripping hand, I know someone who overwintered there and they don't
>think such people would get through the psych screens.

And, if anybody has a fourth hand available, when you get to the
South Pole amd find assholes there too, you're kind of stuck, and
your only recourse is to become a philosopher and conclude that
there are assholes everywhere and one just has to cope.

Or, even better, to contemplate that it might be not them, but
you.

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djheydt at gmail dot com
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On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 10:30:04 AM UTC-5, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <***@kelutral.omcl.org>,
> Steve Coltrin <***@omcl.org> wrote:
> >begin fnord
> >***@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
> >
> >> Jo Walton posted once that she would say to a depressed friend,
> >> "Would it make any difference if you emigrated to New Zealand?"
> >
> >On the one hand, that seems like a really shitty thing to say.
> >
> >On the other hand, I've seen it said that for more than a few people
> >at the South Pole, the thought process that led them to go there started
> >with "What's the farthest away I can get from these assholes?"
> >
> >On the gripping hand, I know someone who overwintered there and they don't
> >think such people would get through the psych screens.
>
> And, if anybody has a fourth hand available, when you get to the
> South Pole amd find assholes there too, you're kind of stuck, and
> your only recourse is to become a philosopher and conclude that
> there are assholes everywhere and one just has to cope.
>
> Or, even better, to contemplate that it might be not them, but
> you.


Lupe Valdez!

Kevin R
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***@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:

> In article <***@kelutral.omcl.org>,
> Steve Coltrin <***@omcl.org> wrote:
>>
>>On the other hand, I've seen it said that for more than a few people
>>at the South Pole, the thought process that led them to go there started
>>with "What's the farthest away I can get from these assholes?"
>>
>>On the gripping hand, I know someone who overwintered there and they don't
>>think such people would get through the psych screens.
>
> And, if anybody has a fourth hand available, when you get to the
> South Pole amd find assholes there too, you're kind of stuck, and
> your only recourse is to become a philosopher and conclude that
> there are assholes everywhere and one just has to cope.

Saw an article the other year that states a _lot_ of drinking happens
there. Might be related.

> Or, even better, to contemplate that it might be not them, but
> you.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If
you run into assholes all day long, _you're_ the asshole." - Raylan Givens

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Don Kuenz
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Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
> thread title:
>
> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>
> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
> to be in "the other universe."

Mirrors symbolize passages. The scene in _The Matrix_ movie where Neo at
first touches and soon becomes one with a mirror may be the most famous
symbolic use of a mirror. Next thing you know Neo falls into water,
becomes fully submerged, and surfaces. That's the symbol for rebirth.
Sure enough, Neo soon finds himself reborn in the "real" world.

My Jung's packed away for the time being. IIRC Jung says that all
mirrors in a Transylvanian (shout out to yet another rasw thread) house
are covered when the casket of a recently departed is in the house for a
wake. Supposedly if you catch a glimpse of the casket in a mirror the
next departed will be you.

The Kabbalists look at things differently when it comes to mirrors in
houses of morning. [1] They still cover mirrors, but it's to keep the
demons of regret, guilt and anger under wraps.

Although _Through the Looking-Glass_ (Carroll) uses a mirror as a
passageway, "The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag" (Heinlein) does
it better. The Heinlein uses mirrors in the manner of Transylvania and
Kabbalah.

1. http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2969340/jewish/Why-Are-the-Mirrors-Covered-in-a-House-of-Mourning.htm

Thank you,

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Dorothy J Heydt
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In article <***@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz <***@crcomp.net> wrote:
>
>Kevrob <***@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> Something that came to mind, when glancing at a spam
>> thread title:
>>
>> "Don't get too near that leak. You wouldn't want to wind
>> up in the other universe, would you?" - Vonnegut
>>
>> I spent a good deal of my childhood (and later) aching
>> to be in "the other universe."
>
>Mirrors symbolize passages. The scene in _The Matrix_ movie where Neo at
>first touches and soon becomes one with a mirror may be the most famous
>symbolic use of a mirror. Next thing you know Neo falls into water,
>becomes fully submerged, and surfaces. That's the symbol for rebirth.
>Sure enough, Neo soon finds himself reborn in the "real" world.
>
>My Jung's packed away for the time being. IIRC Jung says that all
>mirrors in a Transylvanian (shout out to yet another rasw thread) house
>are covered when the casket of a recently departed is in the house for a
>wake. Supposedly if you catch a glimpse of the casket in a mirror the
>next departed will be you.
>
>The Kabbalists look at things differently when it comes to mirrors in
>houses of morning. [1] They still cover mirrors, but it's to keep the
>demons of regret, guilt and anger under wraps.
>
>Although _Through the Looking-Glass_ (Carroll) uses a mirror as a
>passageway, "The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag" (Heinlein) does
>it better. The Heinlein uses mirrors in the manner of Transylvania and
>Kabbalah.
>
>1.
>http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2969340/jewish/Why-Are-the-Mirrors-Covered-in-a-House-of-Mourning.htm

There's also Donaldson's _Mordant's Need_ duology, in which one
of the principal characters lives surrounded by mirrors (in an
effort, IIRC, to convince herself that she really exists), and it
gets more bizarre from there on.

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On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 11:00:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <***@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz <***@crcomp.net> wrote:
> >Mirrors symbolize passages. The scene in _The Matrix_ movie where Neo at
> >first touches and soon becomes one with a mirror may be the most famous
> >symbolic use of a mirror. Next thing you know Neo falls into water,
> >becomes fully submerged, and surfaces. That's the symbol for rebirth.
> >Sure enough, Neo soon finds himself reborn in the "real" world.
> >
> >My Jung's packed away for the time being. IIRC Jung says that all
> >mirrors in a Transylvanian (shout out to yet another rasw thread) house
> >are covered when the casket of a recently departed is in the house for a
> >wake. Supposedly if you catch a glimpse of the casket in a mirror the
> >next departed will be you.
> >
> >The Kabbalists look at things differently when it comes to mirrors in
> >houses of morning. [1] They still cover mirrors, but it's to keep the
> >demons of regret, guilt and anger under wraps.
> >
> >Although _Through the Looking-Glass_ (Carroll) uses a mirror as a
> >passageway, "The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag" (Heinlein) does
> >it better. The Heinlein uses mirrors in the manner of Transylvania and
> >Kabbalah.
> >
> >1.
> >http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2969340/jewish/Why-Are-the-Mirrors-Covered-in-a-House-of-Mourning.htm
>
> There's also Donaldson's _Mordant's Need_ duology, in which one
> of the principal characters lives surrounded by mirrors (in an
> effort, IIRC, to convince herself that she really exists), and it
> gets more bizarre from there on.

Another use of mirrors in fantasy is _Midnight in the Mirror World_
by Fritz Leiber.

Peter Wezeman
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David Johnston
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On 3/10/2017 6:59 PM, ***@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 11:00:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <***@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz <***@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>> Mirrors symbolize passages. The scene in _The Matrix_ movie where Neo at
>>> first touches and soon becomes one with a mirror may be the most famous
>>> symbolic use of a mirror. Next thing you know Neo falls into water,
>>> becomes fully submerged, and surfaces. That's the symbol for rebirth.
>>> Sure enough, Neo soon finds himself reborn in the "real" world.
>>>
>>> My Jung's packed away for the time being. IIRC Jung says that all
>>> mirrors in a Transylvanian (shout out to yet another rasw thread) house
>>> are covered when the casket of a recently departed is in the house for a
>>> wake. Supposedly if you catch a glimpse of the casket in a mirror the
>>> next departed will be you.
>>>
>>> The Kabbalists look at things differently when it comes to mirrors in
>>> houses of morning. [1] They still cover mirrors, but it's to keep the
>>> demons of regret, guilt and anger under wraps.
>>>
>>> Although _Through the Looking-Glass_ (Carroll) uses a mirror as a
>>> passageway, "The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag" (Heinlein) does
>>> it better. The Heinlein uses mirrors in the manner of Transylvania and
>>> Kabbalah.
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2969340/jewish/Why-Are-the-Mirrors-Covered-in-a-House-of-Mourning.htm
>>
>> There's also Donaldson's _Mordant's Need_ duology, in which one
>> of the principal characters lives surrounded by mirrors (in an
>> effort, IIRC, to convince herself that she really exists), and it
>> gets more bizarre from there on.
>
> Another use of mirrors in fantasy is _Midnight in the Mirror World_
> by Fritz Leiber.
>
> Peter Wezeman
> anti-social Darwinist
>

In som 80s fantasy there was a sorceress named "Silverglass". I'm sure
mirrors come in somewhere there.
Butch Malahide
2017-03-11 23:09:03 UTC
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On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:59:09 PM UTC-6, ***@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 11:00:04 PM UTC-6, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > Don Kuenz wrote:
> > >Mirrors symbolize passages. The scene in _The Matrix_ movie where Neo at
> > >first touches and soon becomes one with a mirror may be the most famous
> > >symbolic use of a mirror. Next thing you know Neo falls into water,
> > >becomes fully submerged, and surfaces. That's the symbol for rebirth.
> > >Sure enough, Neo soon finds himself reborn in the "real" world.
> > >
> > >My Jung's packed away for the time being. IIRC Jung says that all
> > >mirrors in a Transylvanian (shout out to yet another rasw thread) house
> > >are covered when the casket of a recently departed is in the house for a
> > >wake. Supposedly if you catch a glimpse of the casket in a mirror the
> > >next departed will be you.
> > >
> > >The Kabbalists look at things differently when it comes to mirrors in
> > >houses of morning. [1] They still cover mirrors, but it's to keep the
> > >demons of regret, guilt and anger under wraps.
> > >
> > >Although _Through the Looking-Glass_ (Carroll) uses a mirror as a
> > >passageway, "The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag" (Heinlein) does
> > >it better. The Heinlein uses mirrors in the manner of Transylvania and
> > >Kabbalah.
> > >
> > >1.
> > >http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2969340/jewish/Why-Are-the-Mirrors-Covered-in-a-House-of-Mourning.htm
> >
> > There's also Donaldson's _Mordant's Need_ duology, in which one
> > of the principal characters lives surrounded by mirrors (in an
> > effort, IIRC, to convince herself that she really exists), and it
> > gets more bizarre from there on.
>
> Another use of mirrors in fantasy is _Midnight in the Mirror World_
> by Fritz Leiber.
>
> Peter Wezeman
> anti-social Darwinist

I seem to recall that mirrors have some evil significance in J. L. Borges
and have some mysterious magical uses in J. B. Cabell.
David DeLaney
2017-03-12 05:40:17 UTC
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On 2017-03-11, Butch Malahide <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> and have some mysterious magical uses in J. B. Cabell.

Which is never actually described, but we know whatever it is seems to require
a white pigeon and a mirror three inches square.

Related in his works is the land of Audela, which lies behind the fire. Any
fire, apparently, though it takes a medium-large one to be big enough to let
the inhabitants cross over to here on a night when the moon is blank and
powerless...

Dave, spare change?
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Robert Bannister
2017-03-13 02:16:47 UTC
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On 12/3/17 1:40 pm, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2017-03-11, Butch Malahide <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> and have some mysterious magical uses in J. B. Cabell.
>
> Which is never actually described, but we know whatever it is seems to require
> a white pigeon and a mirror three inches square.

Oh dear! I was just pressing NEXT and, for a moment, I thought the above
related to the Tom/Terry war and perhaps how to call an amnesty. They do
sound like the requirements for a good spell.


>
> Related in his works is the land of Audela, which lies behind the fire. Any
> fire, apparently, though it takes a medium-large one to be big enough to let
> the inhabitants cross over to here on a night when the moon is blank and
> powerless...
>
> Dave, spare change?
>


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David DeLaney
2017-03-01 07:58:09 UTC
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On 2017-03-01, Don Kuenz <***@crcomp.net> wrote:
> Mirrors symbolize passages. The scene in _The Matrix_ movie where Neo at
> first touches and soon becomes one with a mirror may be the

second

> most famous
> symbolic use of a mirror.

Dave, the first one is on-topic too

ps:
> Although _Through the Looking-Glass_ (Carroll) uses a mirror as a
> passageway,

there you wgo!
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