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Quadibloc
2017-03-21 13:06:11 UTC
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This is so strange, it's almost not off-topic:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/20/beijing_toilet_crack_down/

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Quadibloc
2017-03-21 18:20:00 UTC
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From the comments, I learned about Medicated Izal bathroom tissue. But the company eventually came out with a soft version in addition to their standard strong version.

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Peter Trei
2017-03-21 20:21:10 UTC
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From the comments, I learned about Medicated Izal bathroom tissue. But the company eventually came out with a soft version in addition to their standard strong version.
John Savard
I remember occasionally encountering the wretched stuff in the 60s and 70s,
usually at museums. 0/10, would not repeat.

Some people actually liked it.

pt
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2017-03-21 22:46:01 UTC
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From the comments, I learned about Medicated Izal bathroom tissue. But the company eventually came out with a soft version in addition to their standard strong version.
John Savard
I remember occasionally encountering the wretched stuff in the 60s and 70s,
usually at museums. 0/10, would not repeat.
Some people actually liked it.
Some people are masochists.
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Robert Bannister
2017-03-22 02:21:23 UTC
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From the comments, I learned about Medicated Izal bathroom tissue.
But the company eventually came out with a soft version in addition
to their standard strong version.
John Savard
I remember occasionally encountering the wretched stuff in the 60s and 70s,
usually at museums. 0/10, would not repeat.
Some people actually liked it.
Some people are masochists.
There wasn't a great deal of choice in the 1950s Britain. Some of the
others were worse. The only other brand whose name I can even remember
was "Bronco".
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Greg Goss
2017-03-22 05:07:12 UTC
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From the comments, I learned about Medicated Izal bathroom tissue.
But the company eventually came out with a soft version in addition
to their standard strong version.
John Savard
I remember occasionally encountering the wretched stuff in the 60s and 70s,
usually at museums. 0/10, would not repeat.
Some people actually liked it.
Some people are masochists.
There wasn't a great deal of choice in the 1950s Britain. Some of the
others were worse. The only other brand whose name I can even remember
was "Bronco".
This was an April 1 ad, released to YouTube and some airplay for one
day only. But it generated name recognition for a company I'd never
heard of before.


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Lynn McGuire
2017-03-21 19:46:18 UTC
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/20/beijing_toilet_crack_down/
John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government is such a basic failure in life. For an even better model, see Venezuela.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/venezuelans-now-on-a-forced-starvation-diet-thanks-socialism/

Lynn
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
2017-03-21 20:56:28 UTC
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John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government is
such a basic failure in life. For an even better model, see
Venezuela.
Last I heard, Venezuela didn't actually *have* any toilet paper.

Venezuela crisis: I flew to U.S. to buy toilet paper

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/economy/venezuela-bring-food-
home/
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Kevrob
2017-03-21 22:51:42 UTC
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/20/beijing_toilet_crack_dow
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Others have expressed concern over the privacy implications of the
technology, with The Guardian quoting one Weibo user moaning: “I
thought the toilet was the last place I had a right to privacy,
but they are watching me in there too.”

[/quote]

I am reminded on the taboo on social interaction, especially the
more that one be silent, in the "Personals" in Asimov's novel
"The Caves of Steel." One couldn't be alone with just one's
thoughts anywhere else.
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John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government is
such a basic failure in life. For an even better model, see
Venezuela.
Last I heard, Venezuela didn't actually *have* any toilet paper.
Venezuela crisis: I flew to U.S. to buy toilet paper
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/economy/venezuela-bring-food-
home/
I've long thought institutions bought TP that was rougher
than what you'd put in your home bathroom in part to discourage
it's theft.

Kevin R
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2017-03-21 23:25:00 UTC
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John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government
is such a basic failure in life. For an even better model,
see Venezuela.
Last I heard, Venezuela didn't actually *have* any toilet
paper.
Venezuela crisis: I flew to U.S. to buy toilet paper
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/economy/venezuela-bring-foo
d- home/
I've long thought institutions bought TP that was rougher
than what you'd put in your home bathroom in part to discourage
it's theft.
I suspect it has more to do with the rougher stuff being cheaper, and
usually being single ply, which means there's at least twice as many
feet per roll, so it lasts longer. It's not like the people who make
those decisions - the execs who sign the checks - actually *use*
employee or customer bathrooms, They probably have a personal valet
in their executive bathroom to wipe their asses for them.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Cryptoengineer
2017-03-22 00:53:35 UTC
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John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government
is such a basic failure in life. For an even better model,
see Venezuela.
Last I heard, Venezuela didn't actually *have* any toilet
paper.
Venezuela crisis: I flew to U.S. to buy toilet paper
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/economy/venezuela-bring-foo
d- home/
I've long thought institutions bought TP that was rougher
than what you'd put in your home bathroom in part to discourage
it's theft.
I suspect it has more to do with the rougher stuff being cheaper, and
usually being single ply, which means there's at least twice as many
feet per roll, so it lasts longer. It's not like the people who make
those decisions - the execs who sign the checks - actually *use*
employee or customer bathrooms, They probably have a personal valet
in their executive bathroom to wipe their asses for them.
Izal was enough of a British institution that there's a small number
of articles and documentaries available online. IIRC, the company's
main thing was institutional cleaning products, and the TP was just
a sideline that they sold to places which were buying their products
anyway.

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nuny@bid.nes
2017-03-23 22:45:10 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:25:02 PM UTC-7, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:

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It's not like the people who make
those decisions - the execs who sign the checks - actually *use*
employee or customer bathrooms, They probably have a personal valet
in their executive bathroom to wipe their asses for them.
Not just execs choosing TP for their employees, but "experts" in general designing things they don't expect to have to use is one major reason so much bullshit gets foisted on the public.


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Lynn McGuire
2017-03-22 00:45:25 UTC
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/20/beijing_toilet_crack_dow
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Others have expressed concern over the privacy implications of the
technology, with The Guardian quoting one Weibo user moaning: “I
thought the toilet was the last place I had a right to privacy,
but they are watching me in there too.”
[/quote]
I am reminded on the taboo on social interaction, especially the
more that one be silent, in the "Personals" in Asimov's novel
"The Caves of Steel." One couldn't be alone with just one's
thoughts anywhere else.
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Quadibloc
John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government is
such a basic failure in life. For an even better model, see
Venezuela.
Last I heard, Venezuela didn't actually *have* any toilet paper.
Venezuela crisis: I flew to U.S. to buy toilet paper
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/economy/venezuela-bring-food-
home/
I've long thought institutions bought TP that was rougher
than what you'd put in your home bathroom in part to discourage
it's theft.
Kevin R
My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.

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2017-03-22 03:50:12 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:56:30 PM UTC-4, Gutless
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/20/beijing_toilet_crack_
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Others have expressed concern over the privacy implications of
the technology, with The Guardian quoting one Weibo user
moaning: “I thought the toilet was the last place I had a
right to privacy, but they are watching me in there too.”
[/quote]
I am reminded on the taboo on social interaction, especially
the more that one be silent, in the "Personals" in Asimov's
novel "The Caves of Steel." One couldn't be alone with just
one's thoughts anywhere else.
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Quadibloc
John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government
is such a basic failure in life. For an even better model,
see Venezuela.
Last I heard, Venezuela didn't actually *have* any toilet
paper.
Venezuela crisis: I flew to U.S. to buy toilet paper
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/economy/venezuela-bring-fo
od- home/
I've long thought institutions bought TP that was rougher
than what you'd put in your home bathroom in part to discourage
it's theft.
Kevin R
My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the
hotel had wood shavings in it.
You need something to scrape the bigger chunks off.
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Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Robert Carnegie
2017-03-22 03:52:53 UTC
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Others have expressed concern over the privacy implications of the
technology, with The Guardian quoting one Weibo user moaning: “I
thought the toilet was the last place I had a right to privacy,
but they are watching me in there too.”
[/quote]
I am reminded on the taboo on social interaction, especially the
more that one be silent, in the "Personals" in Asimov's novel
"The Caves of Steel." One couldn't be alone with just one's
thoughts anywhere else.
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Quadibloc
John Savard
This is why getting your basic materials from the government is
such a basic failure in life. For an even better model, see
Venezuela.
Last I heard, Venezuela didn't actually *have* any toilet paper.
Venezuela crisis: I flew to U.S. to buy toilet paper
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/economy/venezuela-bring-food-
home/
I've long thought institutions bought TP that was rougher
than what you'd put in your home bathroom in part to discourage
it's theft.
Kevin R
My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
I hesitate to say, since after a disturbing
colonoscopy I use the most luxurious toilet paper
I can find on sale, but, how high-quality do you
/want/ the stuff to be? I mean, yeah, you don't
want splinters. But - look, when your dad was
writing home -
Scott Lurndal
2017-03-22 13:11:34 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
Kevrob
2017-03-22 14:07:59 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
I buy the stuff they sell at the dollar store (Angel Soft?)
It works fine. TV advertised brands sell for 3 or 4 times
that amount in the supermarket.

Kevin R
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2017-03-22 15:24:25 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
I've heard that Sears Roebuck changed the paper for their catalog to
facilitate that.
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2017-03-22 15:44:05 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
I've heard that Sears Roebuck changed the paper for their catalog to
facilitate that.
I'd heard the opposite - when they moved from newsprint to coated stock (for
photos) they got a lot of flack from customers who valued the secondary use.
(at least, that's the Straight Dope version).

pt
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2017-03-22 16:12:20 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
What I find interesting is that WI was, and may still be, a huge
producer of toilet paper.

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-green-bay-wisconsin-became-the-toilet-paper-capital-of-the-world
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I've heard that Sears Roebuck changed the paper for their catalog to
facilitate that.
I'd heard the opposite - when they moved from newsprint to coated stock (for
photos) they got a lot of flack from customers who valued the secondary use.
(at least, that's the Straight Dope version).
pt
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2017-03-22 16:28:59 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
What I find interesting is that WI was, and may still be, a huge
producer of toilet paper.
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-green-bay-wisconsin-became-the-toilet-paper-capital-of-the-world
Wisconsin has lots of trees. Family farmers don't have spare cash for TP
particularly in the post-depression war years.
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2017-03-24 04:41:39 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
What I find interesting is that WI was, and may still be, a huge
producer of toilet paper.
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-green-bay-wisconsin-became-the-toilet-paper-capital-of-the-world
Wisconsin has lots of trees. Family farmers don't have spare cash for TP
particularly in the post-depression war years.
I've been taking the bus lately, as I just had to junk my 290k+ mi
1996 Jeep. (Too many different systems needed fixing after it
broke down.) One of my co-workers is "busing it," too. I asked her,
"Your husband is a mechanic. I was thinking about bringing old
Nellybelle to him for a tune up before I had to....send her to
the farm. Doesn't he have an old car he can fix up for you?"
I was informed that a.0 she doesn't drive, as she grew up in New
York City and never learned, and that b.) he can't drive now, either.
(I'm going to guess suspended license for some reason, or a health
problem.) I called up an old saw, "the cobblers children have no
shoes."

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes

Kevin R
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2017-07-07 21:54:46 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
What I find interesting is that WI was, and may still be, a huge
producer of toilet paper.
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-green-bay-wisconsin-became-the-toilet-paper-capital-of-the-world
Wisconsin has lots of trees. Family farmers don't have spare cash for TP
particularly in the post-depression war years.
I've been taking the bus lately, as I just had to junk my 290k+ mi
1996 Jeep. (Too many different systems needed fixing after it
broke down.) One of my co-workers is "busing it," too. I asked her,
"Your husband is a mechanic. I was thinking about bringing old
Nellybelle to him for a tune up before I had to....send her to
the farm. Doesn't he have an old car he can fix up for you?"
I was informed that a.0 she doesn't drive, as she grew up in New
York City and never learned, and that b.) he can't drive now, either.
(I'm going to guess suspended license for some reason, or a health
problem.) I called up an old saw, "the cobblers children have no
shoes."
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes
Update: I picked up a 1995 Jeep, much like my old one, but in much
better shape, and am now driving again. 267k miles on it. I am saving
3.5 commuting hours a day, compared to the days when I got to and from
work by taking the bus and walking. I could cheat a little if a co-worker
drove me partway to where I could pick up a bus or train I would otherwise
miss if I walked to the stop or station.

Now I have to remember to get some exercise unrelated to commuting!

Kevin R

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2017-03-22 20:11:38 UTC
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My father was in Poland in the 1980s. The toilet paper in the hotel had wood shavings in it.
And my parents grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with no indoor bathroom. Their
toilet paper was the Sears Roebuck catalog or a corncob.
I've heard that Sears Roebuck changed the paper for their catalog to
facilitate that.
I'd heard the opposite - when they moved from newsprint to coated stock (for
photos) they got a lot of flack from customers who valued the secondary use.
(at least, that's the Straight Dope version).
I'm willing to accept that Straight Dope put more effort into
fact-checking that than I did. :)
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