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OT: Slavery in Canada
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Quadibloc
2021-02-27 20:31:55 UTC
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This newspaper column:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/what-slavery-looked-like-in-canada

sets forth the historical facts about slavery in Canada.

It is an undoubted fact that Negro slavery existed in Canada, although some have forgotten it or denied it. This article both presents evidence to remind Canadians of this shameful fact, and also notes that slavery was limited in extent - which is why it ended in Canada without a civil war.

The number of slaves in Canada, at the worst of this practice, was so small that their descendants are much outnumbered by those of black people who came to Canada as free men and women and stayed that way; if they or their ancestors had been enslaved, it was in another land.

Even before Canada automatically abolished slavery because Britain did - and Britain did so after a short few decades of a campaign against it - it had passed legislation to cause the practice to gradually disappear, almost without controversy, apparently.

And this is why we ended up as the destination of the Underground Railway when the dark clouds of the Civil War started to approach.

John Savard
David Johnston
2021-02-27 23:16:42 UTC
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Post by Quadibloc
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/what-slavery-looked-like-in-canada
sets forth the historical facts about slavery in Canada.
It is an undoubted fact that Negro slavery existed in Canada,
As long as you ignore Canada only being founded 30 years after it was
abolished. It was only a thing in the colonies that later became Canada.
Post by Quadibloc
although some have forgotten it or denied it. This article both presents evidence to remind Canadians of this shameful fact, and also notes that slavery was limited in extent - which is why it ended in Canada without a >civil war.
It wasn't limited at all in the West Indies and yet no civil war.
Quadibloc
2021-02-28 00:05:58 UTC
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Post by David Johnston
As long as you ignore Canada only being founded 30 years after it was
abolished. It was only a thing in the colonies that later became Canada.
It is true that, properly speaking, Negro Slavery was taking place in British
North America, as Confederation, forming the Dominion of Canada, would
not take place until 1867.

However, the Canadian nation and people can hardly evade responsibility
for it by that technology. "Gee, the British made us do it"?

As the article pointed out, for example, there was slavery in Quebec even
before the Conquest, although it was only when British law came that it
became chattel slavery, as in the U.S., rather than something more akin to
what the ancient Greeks had.

There was slavery in Quebec, there was slavery in Nova Scotia, and so on.

And what is now known as Ontario was established as Upper Canada in
1791, so Canada, as a thing divided into Upper Canada and Lower Canada
(that being what is known as Quebec) existed before the political unit came
into being through the addition of another two provinces.

John Savard
Jonathan
2021-02-28 00:16:27 UTC
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Post by Quadibloc
Post by David Johnston
As long as you ignore Canada only being founded 30 years after it was
abolished. It was only a thing in the colonies that later became Canada.
It is true that, properly speaking, Negro
The simple fact you don't know or care the term 'negro' has
become an offensive term shows racism is alive and well
where you come from.


When Did the Word Negro Become Socially Unacceptable? -

"The last time the Supreme Court used the word Negro outside
quotation marks or citations to other scholarship was in 1985.
Despite public outcry, the U.S. Census still includes
the word Negro, because many older people still use it."



'Negro' is an offensive term, so why has it remained
in the name of at least 26 Texas places?

"Despite a law passed in the state in 1991 to remove the
word "Negro" from the names of places such as creeks
and valleys, at least 26 Texas locations still feature
the word, according to Reese Oxner with Houston Public Media.

The issue seems to rest in the fact that the power to change
the names of such locations lies with the U.S. Board on
Geographic Names, and the federal government blocked the
changes.


“Negro Creek,” “Negro Hollow”, "Dead Negro Draw", "Negro Creek"
and “Negrohead Bluff” are the names of just a few of the places
you'll find on a tour through the Lone Star State — and
state officials are adamant about getting them renamed."
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/texas-places-with-negro-in-name-illegal-15803109.php





Slavery was taking place in British
Post by Quadibloc
North America, as Confederation, forming the Dominion of Canada, would
not take place until 1867.
However, the Canadian nation and people can hardly evade responsibility
for it by that technology. "Gee, the British made us do it"?
As the article pointed out, for example, there was slavery in Quebec even
before the Conquest, although it was only when British law came that it
became chattel slavery, as in the U.S., rather than something more akin to
what the ancient Greeks had.
There was slavery in Quebec, there was slavery in Nova Scotia, and so on.
And what is now known as Ontario was established as Upper Canada in
1791, so Canada, as a thing divided into Upper Canada and Lower Canada
(that being what is known as Quebec) existed before the political unit came
into being through the addition of another two provinces.
John Savard
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Jonathan
2021-02-28 00:08:32 UTC
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Post by Quadibloc
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/what-slavery-looked-like-in-canada
sets forth the historical facts about slavery in Canada.
It is an undoubted fact that Negro slavery existed in Canada, although some have forgotten it or denied it. This article both presents evidence to remind Canadians of this shameful fact, and also notes that slavery was limited in extent - which is why it ended in Canada without a civil war.
The number of slaves in Canada, at the worst of this practice, was so small that their descendants are much outnumbered by those of black people who came to Canada as free men and women and stayed that way; if they or their ancestors had been enslaved, it was in another land.
Even before Canada automatically abolished slavery because Britain did - and Britain did so after a short few decades of a campaign against it - it had passed legislation to cause the practice to gradually disappear, almost without controversy, apparently.
And this is why we ended up as the destination of the Underground Railway when the dark clouds of the Civil War started to approach.
John Savard
I grew in Michigan, you can't fool me about racism in the
Great White North. It's rampant.


The Pervasive Reality of Anti-Black Racism in Canada
https://www.bcg.com/en-ca/publications/2020/reality-of-anti-black-racism-in-canada


How Canada tries to hide its racism by pointing a finger at the U.S.
By Nora Loreto | Opinion | June 26th 2020
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2020/06/26/opinion/how-canada-tries-hide-its-racism-pointing-finger-us
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David Dalton
2021-03-01 00:29:02 UTC
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Didn’t French Canadians enslave some Irish people
at some point?
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The Doctor
2021-03-01 01:53:23 UTC
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Didn’t French Canadians enslave some Irish people
at some point?
When? The 19th Century?
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Kevrob
2021-03-01 23:08:18 UTC
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Post by The Doctor
Post by David Dalton
Didn’t French Canadians enslave some Irish people
at some point?
When? The 19th Century?
Post by David Dalton
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“And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is
shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)
I don't know about the French, but there was at least one slaving
raid from North Africa to Ireland.

https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/from-baltimore-to-barbary-the-1631-sack-of-baltimore/

Those taken were like as not of English heritage, however.

The Norse enslaved the Irish, and the Irish did their own slaving.

As for the Norman bastards who took over England, they conquered
the whole country of Ireland, to boot.
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