Post by Robert Woodward Post by Kevrob Post by Peter Trei Post by mimus99 Post by Quadibloc
I just recently learned that *two* religions have science-fiction
However, in Scientology, the bad guys are about taking souls
which originated at the beginning of the Universe - thetans -
and fooling them into incarnating into flesh bodies, where they
can be burdened with neuroses (engrams).
Whereas, in the beliefs of the Nation of Islam, souls originate
as new human beings come into fleshly existence, and thus are
limited by the characteristics of the flesh from which they
arise. Thus, the scientist Yakub, thousands of years ago, could
start a fiendish and cruel program of selective breeding to
create that un-natural abomination of science, the white man.
Thus, the theology of these two beliefs seems to be
fundamentally incompatible, and thus there is no chance of Xenu
and Yakub having an adventure together as a pair of
What do you expect from people (NoI) who rejected Christianity
for its role in African slavery and adopted _Islam_ (sort of)
(And murdered Malcolm X when he started expanding his moral and
political horizons . . . .)
The thing that always bugged me about this is that Islamic slave traders
moved vastly more slaves, and over a far longer period, than Christian ones
The evil white slave traders sent their cargoes to the
Americas, with hardly any Arab/Islamic involvement.
I have serious doubts about that. Many (perhaps even all) of the slave
ports in West Africa had Islamic populations (true, not Arab). They did
the acquisition and selling. I believe that most of the slaves imported
into North America (with includes the Caribbean Islands) came from those
slave ports. Only the Portuguese operations in southern Africa
(supplying Brazil) were independent of Arab/Islamic slave trade.
I'll grant that believing Muslims captured people in the interior
and sold them on to West African slave ports. But the _mythology_
or "folk history" as opposed to the "actual history" in the minds
of most African Americans concentrates on the fanciful idea of white
slave catchers stealing from the coast. At least the new TV version
or "Roots" didn't whitewash African involvement in supplying the
white foreigners with prisoners.
Incomplete depictions of the Atlantic slave trade are, in fact, quite common.
My 2003 study of 49 state U.S. history standards revealed that not one of
these guides to classroom content even mentioned the key role of Africans
in supplying the Atlantic slave trade. In Africa itself, however, the
slave trade is remembered quite differently. Nigerians, for example,
explicitly teach about their own role in the trade:
[/quote] - Sheldon M. Stern
Where did the supply of slaves come from? First, the Portuguese
themselves kidnapped some Africans. But the bulk of the supply came from
the Nigerians. These Nigerian middlemen moved to the interior where
they captured other Nigerians who belonged to other communities. The
middlemen also purchased many of the slaves from the people in the
interior . . . . Many Nigerian middlemen began to depend totally on
the slave trade and neglected every other business and occupation.
The result was that when the trade was abolished [by England in 1807]
these Nigerians began to protest. As years went by and the trade collapsed
such Nigerians lost their sources of income and became impoverished.
Michael Omolewa, Certificate History of Nigeria (Lagos, Nigeria:
Longman Group, 1991), 96–103, cited in Dana Lindaman and Kyle Ward,
History Lessons: How Textbooks around the World Portray U.S. History
(New York: New Press, 2004), 79-83.
Polities like the Kingdom of Dahomey based their economy on slaving.
The problem with the hard truth that Africans were firmly intertwined
with Europeans in the Atlantic slave trade is that apologists for
slavery used the "blacks sold blacks" fact as a justifying argument.
One hopes that today's students are taught the wider view, that
virtually every human group has been involved in slavery.
Stern quotes a middle school textbook that was published after
his study that explains that things were more complicated.