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9 predictions from old sci-fi movies that actually came true
Dave Johnson May 11, 2019, 10:05 AM

The 1990 film "Total Recall" may have predicted the rise of self-driving
cars. TriStar Pictures
We looked at some of the best sci-fi movies in history to see what kinds
of predictions they made about technology and the world.
Many predictions are hilariously inaccurate, but some have proven eerily
correct decades later.
Memorable movies like "Blade Runner," "The Terminator," and "2001: A
Space Odyssey" predicted modern-day tech like military drones and cell
phones.
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Not all science fiction films age well, and often the predictions they
make are hilariously misguided.

1987's "The Running Man," for example, contended that in the year 2019,
we'd be watching battle royale-style murder on live television.

2019 is also the year that "The Island" predicted human clones would be
farmed like cattle for their organs — and that film hit theaters a mere
14 years ago.

But some classic sci-fi films made rock-solid predictions that proved
eerily accurate decades later. Movies such as "Blade Runner," "The
Terminator," and "2001: A Space Odyssey" are all worth revisiting for
the modern-day technology they predicted.

Despite some great contenders from the last decade or two, we
established the drinking age rule for this list: We looked only at
movies that were 21 years or older (so tough break, 2002's "Minority
Report").

Here are nine predictions from old sci-fi movies that actually came true.

Space travel — 'Le Voyage Dans La Lune,' 1902
Space travel — 'Le Voyage Dans La Lune,' 1902
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It's hard to make the case that any particular work of fiction predicted
the general concept of space travel. Jules Verne may well have been the
first person to write about it in any sort of modern, technological way
with his 1865 novel "From the Earth to the Moon," but since then,
countless films have featured travel to the moon or beyond.

Even so, " Le Voyage Dans La Lune" deserves special mention. With the
movie camera barely 10 years old and the first cinema still three years
away from a grand opening, French filmmaker Georges Méliès made a
13-minute, special effects-laden movie about explorers who travel to the
moon in a cannon-propelled space capsule.

It's remarkable for many reasons. The subject matter is inventive, the
visual effects are charming and downright iconic, and the conceit of
firing a rocket out of a canon is not as far-fetched as it might seem to
viewers accustomed to Space X launches.

In fact, the "space gun" — ballistically firing a satellite into orbit
from the equivalent of a giant canon — has been explored for decades. In
the 1960s, under the auspices of Project HARP, the Navy used a
100-caliber gun to fire 400-pound projectiles into suborbital
trajectories that reached a height of 110 miles. So the idea, though
impractical, is far from crazy.

No, we're unlikely to ever fire people into space from a canon. But "Le
Voyage Dans La Lune" certainly ignited viewers' imaginations and paved
the way for Neil Armstrong and Apollo 11.

Robots — 'Metropolis,' 1927
Robots — 'Metropolis,' 1927
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Though relatively unknown to mainstream movie audiences, sci-fi fans
will have no trouble recognizing the iconic 1927 film "Metropolis."

From the vantage point of 2019, this film isn't easy to watch, since
it's a silent, black-and-white film that runs well over two hours.
(Though if you're so inclined, you certainly can watch Metropolis in its
entirety on YouTube.)

And Metropolis broke a lot of fresh ground, including the first
on-screen depiction of robots. In the film, an inventor with an uncanny
1920's resemblance to Doc Brown crafted a metallic humanoid robot who is
then "reskinned" to resemble Maria, a character in the film.

Today, we take the inevitability of robots — and even human-like
androids in particular — for granted. But as novel as this was at the
time, today we are virtually overrun with increasingly realistic androids.

In 2014, Japan saw the debut of " Kodomoroid," a robot newscaster, and
Osaka University's Professor Hiroshi Ishiguro has unveiled an android
named Erica who is startlingly realistic. At the same time, robots like
Boston Dynamics' Atlas and Honda's Asimo demonstrate that walking,
running, opening doors, and even gymnastics are on the robot menu.


Earbuds — 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
Earbuds — 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
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Ray Bradbury's iconic novel "Fahrenheit 451" has long been required
reading for high schoolers everywhere, and François Truffaut tried his
hand at making a film version in 1966.

Firemen never took on the role of starting fires, but that conceit
wasn't intended to be taken as a prediction — it's a satirical parable.
But there is a fascinating piece of technology in this film that sagely
predicts the rise of earbuds and the modern earbud culture.

In "Fahrenheit 451," "seashells" are described as "thimble radios tamped
tight, and an electronic ocean of sound, of music and talk coming in,
coming in on the shore of her unsleeping mind." In 1966, the most
personal audio available was the transistor radio. And though headphones
existed, they were large and bulky affairs. Bradbury and Truffaut
envisioned a world with tiny, thimble-sized earbuds that played private
audio — both music and talk.

It wouldn't be until 2001 and the first Apple iPod that people started
wearing seashells, submersing themselves in music and podcasts just like
the film depicted.

Skype — '2001: A Space Odyssey,' 1968
Skype — '2001: A Space Odyssey,' 1968
MGM
The list of things that "2001: A Space Odyssey" predicted could probably
fill an article all by itself, from tablet computers to space tourism.

But one element in the film stands out: Skype.

To be fair, no one in "2001" actually logs into the Microsoft-operated
video chat service. But video calling is featured prominently in the
movie, such as when Dr. Heywood Floyd calls his family from a space
station orbiting the earth.

There's even more innovation in this scene: Floyd inserts what looks
like a credit card in the videophone to start the call, predicting their
eventual ubiquity — in the 1960s, credit cards weren't nearly as common
as they are today.

And the two-minute call from space cost $1.70, thoguh we can't figure
whether that's a bargain or not.

The tech world has had a 50-year love affair with the concept of
videophones, and numerous efforts were made to make them a reality. The
Picturephone was first demonstrated at the 1964 World's Fair, and it
surfaced at retail again and again over the years — such as AT&T's 1982
Picturephone and the 1992 VideoPhone 2500.

All were failures, but the internet, mobile broadband, and smartphones
all conspired to eventually make video calling via apps like Skype and
FaceTime everyday tools.


Mobile phones — 'Star Trek,' 1966
Mobile phones — 'Star Trek,' 1966
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Purists might consider this one a cheat, but we'd be remiss not to
include "Star Trek" in the list, since it predicted more technology than
Leonardo di Vinci's notebook.

Let's be clear: "Star Trek" started as a TV series in 1966, and its
three-year initial run set the blueprint for the show's many
technological predictions. But all of that eventually made its way to
the big screen, starting with "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" in 1979,
qualifying it for this list.

And when we say that "Star Trek" invented the modern mobile phone, we
mean it. The show's pocket communicator with the flip-up grid antenna
literally inspired Motorola engineer Martin Cooper to design the world's
first mobile phone in 1973.

His prototype, which would eventually become the Motorola DynaTAC was a
veritable beast of a phone that weighed 2.5 pounds and had a 20-minute
battery life. It took a decade to bring it to market, but 1983's DynaTAC
started a revolution that led to ever smaller phones, flip phones, and
eventually, smartphones.

Smart homes — 'Demon Seed,' 1977
Smart homes — 'Demon Seed,' 1977
MGM
Some movie fans point to the goofy 1999 Disney film "Smart House" as the
first major appearance of the Internet of Things and smart-home
technology in a film. And admittedly, when the movie is actually called
"Smart House," that's a little on the nose.

But you can go back further for the first example of a smart home in
cinema: 1977's sci-fi-horror film "Demon Seed."

In "Demon Seed," a scientist develops Proteus IV, an artificially
intelligent computer that starts off on a positive note by curing
leukemia. But it quickly spirals out of control when the computer
develops an unhealthy crush on its creator's wife, installs itself on a
computer in their home, and takes control over all the technology and
devices there.

The premise is terrible and the execution is pure 70's made-for-TV
schlock, but what Proteus IV actually does is prescient — like a modern
smart home, the computer can control lights, door and window locks,
manages the home's alarm system, can show video of the front door like a
smart doorbell, and even control devices like an automated swimming pool
cover.

"Demon Seed" could easily be the blueprint for modern smart home
technology from Philips Hue lights to Ring doorbells to Kevo smart
locks, and dozens of other Internet of Things devices.


Flying cars — 'Blade Runner,' 1982
Flying cars — 'Blade Runner,' 1982
Warner Bros.
Few sci-fi movies are as revered as Ridley Scott's "Blade Runner," a
film that put cyberpunk and sci-fi noir on the big screen for the first
time.

The movie goes big on audacious predictions for the year 2019, including
snakes on the verge of extinction, fully humanlike androids, ceaseless
rain in LA, and space colonies.

But the movie got a few things right, too. The pyramid-shaped LA skyline
implies that the city's skyscrapers are no longer legally required to
have helipads on the roof — something that changed for real in LA in
2014 — and the film also predicted the rise (no pun intended) of flying
cars. An essential part of the "Blade Runner" universe is the Spinner, a
flying car we see darting about the city.

Flying cars have been part of our "promised future" since the 1950s. And
engineers have tried. Oh, how they've tried. Among the many attempts at
flying cars, there has been the 1947 ConvAirCar Model 118, little more
than an auto with wings, and 1990's Sky Commuter from Boeing. And
inventor Paul Moller spent his life developing various versions of his
Sky Car, a reliable fixture in the back pages of pop science magazine
for decades.

And while we don't have flying cars quite yet, they're definitely, at
long last, coming. A number of companies are readying what are
essentially "passenger drones" — electric powered, self-flying, vertical
takeoff and landing vehicles that look like oversized drones.

And they can ferry passengers without the need for a pilot. Boeing,
AirBus, and Chinese company eHang are all developing oversized drone
flying taxi services, and some are just a couple of years (in theory)
from operation, and Uber has already announced the first five cities
that may start flying.

Military drones — 'The Terminator,' 1984
Military drones — 'The Terminator,' 1984
Orion Pictures
James Cameron's sci-fi blockbuster "The Terminator" gave us a lot of
reasons to lie awake at night — a self-aware computer that triggers
nuclear Armageddon, relentless killbots, and Bill Paxton's spikey punk hair.

Mixed in with all that are visions of the future that reveal
Hunter-Killer drones — in essence, military flying drones armed with
weapons.

By the early 1980s, the military already had extensive experience with
"target drones" — radio-controlled unmanned vehicles that could be shot
down for target practice — and reconnaissance drones, launched from
ships and aircraft. But it wouldn't be until the "war on terror" in the
2000s that the US military would fulfill the predictions of "The
Terminator" and deploy UAVs — military drones — with weapons on board.

The MQ-1 Predator, first used in 2001, is the first known military drone
capable of firing weapons that were triggered remotely by ground
operators. And lest you think that the autonomous Hunter-Killers of
Sarah Connor's nightmares are pure fiction, the US military is even now
grappling with the question of fielding artificially intelligent drones
capable of making their own firing decisions.


Self-driving cars 'Total Recall,' 1990
Self-driving cars 'Total Recall,' 1990
TriStar Pictures
"Total Recall" is like a live-action cartoon painted in primary colors.

But amid the memory-control technology, wall-sized TV screens, routine
commercial flights to Mars, and alien superstructures under the Martian
surface are a few interesting predictions. The most prescient:
self-driving cars.

The movie's Johnnycabs are probably what self-driving cars might look
like from a late-'80s point of view. They featured a stylized android
avatar in the driver's seat, and — if you happen to have the strength of
an Arnold Schwarzenegger — ripping out the bot meant you could sit down
and actually drive the car.

That seems a little silly and perhaps naive today, but that's only
because we know exactly what self-driving cars look like — they're in
the news and on the streets. Bristling with sensors, today's fully
self-driving cars can drive themselves without the need for anyone or
anything to sit in the driver's seat. And semi-self-driving cars are not
far behind, though they do require a pilot to keep their hands on the
controls for safety, at least for now.

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Robert Carnegie
2019-05-14 00:46:32 UTC
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There surely were fully automated homes in cartoons
before "Demon Seed" was made. I think I remember
Daffy Duck filling Porky Pig's house with hidden
mechanisms. Or vice versa. And then there's
Jean Cocteau's "Beauty and the Beast". Or the
"Sorceror's Apprentice" bit in _Fantasia_.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-05-14 02:19:09 UTC
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There surely were fully automated homes in cartoons
before "Demon Seed" was made. I think I remember
Daffy Duck filling Porky Pig's house with hidden
mechanisms. Or vice versa. And then there's
Elmer's house.

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Kevrob
2019-05-14 02:58:52 UTC
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There surely were fully automated homes in cartoons
before "Demon Seed" was made. I think I remember
Daffy Duck filling Porky Pig's house with hidden
mechanisms. Or vice versa. And then there's
Jean Cocteau's "Beauty and the Beast". Or the
"Sorceror's Apprentice" bit in _Fantasia_.
The "Blade Runner" flying cars owed a lot to Jack Kirby.
Nick Fury was using one as early as 1965.

https://atomicwanderers.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/jack-kirby-and-the-crazy-sexy-cool-of-a-flying-porsche/

This is the ancestress of Phil Coulson's "Lola,"

Or, the Star Spangled Kid, whose adult sidekick, Stripesy,
was Sylvester Pemberton's chauffeur. They built and flew the
tricked-out "Star Rocket Racer" back in 1941.

https://www.comics.org/issue/1752/cover/4/

SSK & S lost the cover by issue 7, so the net doesn't have
a lot of cool pictures. Here's a modern flashback.

Loading Image.../revision/latest?cb=20110617225601

Fawcett's Spy Smasher had a land, sea & air "gyrosub," which
goes a mere flying car one better. It presaged Gerry Anderson's
"Supercar," and "Tom Swift and his Triphibian Atomicar" a 1962
TS Jr adventure.

xkcd refers to "Flying Cars."

https://xkcd.com/864/ Oddly SFW....?

All of these have deep pulp/SF roots.

Kevin R
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2019-05-14 04:22:43 UTC
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On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 8:46:34 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote: 
There surely were fully automated homes in cartoons 
before "Demon Seed" was made.  I think I remember 
Daffy Duck filling Porky Pig's house with hidden 
mechanisms.  Or vice versa.  And then there's 
Jean Cocteau's "Beauty and the Beast".  Or the 
"Sorceror's Apprentice" bit in _Fantasia_. 
The "Blade Runner" flying cars owed a lot to Jack Kirby.   
Nick Fury was using one as early as 1965. 
The Jetsons (1962) offers one-stop shopping for flying cars, videophones, and pushbutton houses or domestic robots depending on the needs of the joke. Which raises the question of prediction or repeating a trope. I would require some non-standard trope feature showing some thought went into it. I remember an episode of Night Gallery with a videophone; the screen showed the number being called as it was punched in. This was a revelation to me! I was always wondering if I had manipulated my rotor properly for the number to "take," if I had done the proper number of digits in the proper order, or any possible mistakes. Touch tones were becoming popular, but not LED displays, yet. When I get home I'll have to check how Floyd dials his number.
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Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 18:06:35 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
There surely were fully automated homes in cartoons
before "Demon Seed" was made. I think I remember
Daffy Duck filling Porky Pig's house with hidden
mechanisms. Or vice versa. And then there's
Jean Cocteau's "Beauty and the Beast". Or the
"Sorceror's Apprentice" bit in _Fantasia_.
The "Blade Runner" flying cars owed a lot to Jack Kirby.
Nick Fury was using one as early as 1965.
And flying cars go back as far as any other kind of airplane.
Curtiss' prototype didn't fly well, but if flew. In 1917.
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Alan Baker
2019-05-14 18:22:28 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
There surely were fully automated homes in cartoons
before "Demon Seed" was made. I think I remember
Daffy Duck filling Porky Pig's house with hidden
mechanisms. Or vice versa. And then there's
Jean Cocteau's "Beauty and the Beast". Or the
"Sorceror's Apprentice" bit in _Fantasia_.
The "Blade Runner" flying cars owed a lot to Jack Kirby.
Nick Fury was using one as early as 1965.
And flying cars go back as far as any other kind of airplane.
No. They do not.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Curtiss' prototype didn't fly well, but if flew. In 1917.
A few short hops in ground effect isn't flying.
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 20:09:02 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
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Alan Baker
2019-05-14 20:17:54 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Running away from what, Terry.

I gave you the facts...

...and you snipped them out...

...as usual.

:-)
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 23:36:00 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Alan Baker
2019-05-14 23:38:39 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Running away from what, Terry.

I gave you the facts...

...and you snipped them out...

...as usual.

:-)
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 23:43:18 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Alan Baker
2019-05-14 23:44:11 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Running away from what, Terry?

I gave you the facts...

...and you snipped them out...

...as usual.

:-)
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 23:52:20 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Lynn McGuire
2019-05-14 20:25:29 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA in April
2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehensions

Lynn
Alan Baker
2019-05-14 20:40:21 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA in April
2019.
   https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehensions
Lynn
1. Fox News?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

2. You can't even get what they actually said correct.
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 23:41:44 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
  
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehensi
ons
Lynn
1. Fox News?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. You can't even get what they actually said correct.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

98,977 in April for the southwest border. That's from the federal
agency that made the arrests. This is the official number.

You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently severaly
mentally ill. Get help. Seriously. Before you hurt yourself or
someone else.
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Terry Austin

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Alan Baker
2019-05-14 23:43:08 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
 Â
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehensi
ons
Lynn
1. Fox News?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. You can't even get what they actually said correct.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
98,977 in April for the southwest border. That's from the federal
agency that made the arrests. This is the official number.
But it's not the number that actually got across, now is it?

People showing up at the border and being turned away aren't "illegal
immigrants".
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 23:52:00 UTC
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I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in
March) do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the
USA in April 2019.
 Â
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehe
nsi ons
Lynn
1. Fox News?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. You can't even get what they actually said correct.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
98,977 in April for the southwest border. That's from the
federal agency that made the arrests. This is the official
number.
But it's not the number that actually got across, now is it?
That's apprehensions. Yes. That's the number that got across. CBP
arresting foreign nationals on Mexican soil would be a pretty
serious international incident. Could be construed as an act of
war.
People showing up at the border and being turned away aren't
"illegal immigrants".
If you weren't so fucking *stupid*, and bothered to follow the link
you're too fucking *stupid* to follow, read or understand, you'd
find that the number turned away as inadmissible is only 10,167.
That's right, ten times as many cross the border illegally and get
caught as get turned away at ports of entry. Contrary to your
hallucinations.

98,977 is the number arrested _after_ crossing the border. The
total for this year so far is 460,294, nearly half a million.

Go read the fucking web page, retard. You're _wrong_. You're so
fucking *wrong* that you're full of shit, as usual. It's been
explained to you multiple times in the past, and you *lie* about
it. For the first time in your useless, pathetic life, find out
what you're jibbering about. Admit you are *wrong*. Or admit you
don't believe the official numbers, like an good clinical paranoid.

I seriously believe that you are severely mentally ill, and a
danger to yourself. Get help. Before you hurt yourself.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Mike Van Pelt
2019-05-15 00:03:48 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently severaly
mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill? (I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
--
Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
Lynn McGuire
2019-05-15 00:08:16 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently severaly
mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill? (I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
Correcting Terry's spelling is like yelling at the hurricane coming
onshore. It does not care and you are getting soaking wet.

Lynn
Ninapenda Jibini
2019-05-15 02:59:40 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently
severaly mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill? (I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
Correcting Terry's spelling is like yelling at the hurricane
coming onshore. It does not care and you are getting soaking
wet.
Or peeing into the wind. The wind doesn't care, you're soaking wet,
*and* you smell like pee.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Mike Van Pelt
2019-05-15 18:54:32 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently severaly
mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill? (I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
Correcting Terry's spelling is like yelling at the hurricane coming
onshore. It does not care and you are getting soaking wet.
It's not so much correcting his spelling as being unable to
leave a loaded straight line lying around un-fired.
--
Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
Lynn McGuire
2019-05-15 00:10:08 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently severaly
mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill? (I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
BTW, I suspect what Terry intended to type was:

^severaly^severely

Lynn
Ninapenda Jibini
2019-05-15 03:00:18 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently
severaly mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill? (I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
^severaly^severely
Now I'm worried about you. You're making far more sense than usual
lately.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Lynn McGuire
2019-05-15 19:07:40 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Ninapenda Jibini
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently
severaly mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill? (I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
^severaly^severely
Now I'm worried about you. You're making far more sense than usual
lately.
I am almost healed up from my heart surgery last year ??? That Fentanyl
drug really threw me for a loop for quite a while. And, I am still alive !

Lynn
Quadibloc
2019-05-16 21:43:42 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Lynn McGuire
^severaly^severely
I'm quite sure it was, but the joke was intentional.

John Savard

Ninapenda Jibini
2019-05-15 02:59:08 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Mike Van Pelt
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You are, as always, full of shit, a liar, and apparently severaly
mentally ill.
Are you saying that all of his multiple personalities are
mentally ill?
It does kinda work out that way, doesn't it?
Post by Mike Van Pelt
(I think "severally" has two "l"s.)
And severely has none, so I guess all of his personalities are
severely mentally ill.

There is certainly something *wrong* with him.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
a425couple
2019-05-15 16:32:10 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA in
April 2019.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehensions
Lynn
1. Fox News?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. You can't even get what they actually said correct.
By the way Alan, the following might be worth your reading:

from
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/05/06/oh-my-nyt-editorial-board-concedes-trump-is-right-about-the-border-crisis-urges-congress-to-fulfill-his-budget-request-n2545915

Oh My: NYT Editorial Board Concedes Trump is Right on Border Crisis,
Urges Congress to Fulfill New WH Budget Request
Guy Benson Guy Benson | @guypbenson |Posted: May 06, 2019 2:05 PM

Oh My: NYT Editorial Board Concedes Trump is Right on Border Crisis,
Urges Congress to Fulfill New WH Budget Request

Everyone knows the old sayings about broken clocks and blind squirrels,
but I'll confess to being genuinely surprised by this one. The editors
of the New York Times, one of the most reliably liberal mainstream
publications in America, are no longer able to ignore or abide the
ongoing chaos at the Southern border. In a new house editorial, they
acknowledge reality and urge Congressional Democrats to get serious
about the problem -- including a call to fulfill the Trump
administration's latest budget request on this front:


Arthur Schwartz

@ArthurSchwartz
New York Times Editorial Board: “President Trump is right: There is a
crisis at the southern border.”

7,507
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The piece includes some throat clearing and shots at the president, but
its overall message is at least somewhat constructive. And it's a far
cry from Democrats' bogus "manufactured crisis" rhetoric of recent months:

President Trump is right: There is a crisis at the southern border. Just
not the one he rants about...But as record numbers of Central American
families flee violence and poverty in their homelands, they are
overwhelming United States border systems, fueling a humanitarian crisis
of overcrowding, disease and chaos. The Border Patrol is now averaging
1,200 daily arrests, with many migrants arriving exhausted and sick...On
Wednesday, the White House sent Congress a request for $4.5 billion in
emergency funding to help manage the surge. In a letter to lawmakers,
the acting director of the White House’s budget office, Russell Vought,
sought to convey the scope of the challenge. “In February, U.S. Customs
and Border Protection (CBP) encountered more than 76,000 illegal border
crossers and inadmissible aliens, and in March that number exceeded
100,000 — the highest monthly level in more than a decade,” Mr. Vought
wrote. He described what he said were “alarming numbers” of women and
children jammed into Border Patrol stations never intended as long-term
shelters.

Funding for vital services is not expected to last through the fiscal
year, Mr. Vought said. Most urgently, the program that deals with
unaccompanied minors is expected to run dry next month, requiring
resources to be diverted from other programs and leading to a further
deterioration in conditions...Nearly three-quarters of the funds, $3.3
billion, would be earmarked for humanitarian needs, with much of it
flowing to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the agency responsible
for unaccompanied minors. None of the money would go toward Mr. Trump’s
border wall. Several hundred million dollars would, however, go toward
shoring up border security operations, including increasing the number
of detention beds overseen by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or
ICE. This, for Democrats, is a nonstarter...The Democratic chairwoman of
the House Appropriations Committee, Nita Lowey of New York, said that
the administration was seeking billions of dollars to “double down on
cruel and ill-conceived policies” and bail out ICE for locking up more
migrant families than it could humanely accommodate. But until better
policies are in place, Democrats need to find a way to provide money for
adequate shelter.

Consider how extraordinary it is that the Times feels compelled to
describe any effort to enhance border security -- even excluding 'the
wall' -- or to provide additional detention beds as 'nonstarters' for
Democrats. Both of these priorities are urgently needed. The editorial
rightly tells Democrats that "until better policies are in place," they
need to "find a way to provide money for adequate shelter."
Unfortunately, a significant portion of the Democratic Party is overtly
or effectively in favor of "catch and release" policies that inexorably
increase the number of illegal immigrants living inside the United
States. A number of them have even proposed decreasing border security
and enforcement mechanisms, even as this undeniable crisis is playing
out. Meanwhile, we see verifiable evidence of traffickers creating
false families to exploit our broken status quo, which creates an
incentive to illegally enter US territory with children in tow:

Greg Abbott

@GregAbbott_TX
ICE is Cracking Down on 'Fake Families' Using Children as 'Pawns' at
Border. I can’t believe some people say the border is not an emergency
issue.
Texas is about to spend almost a billion dollars in state money to do
the federal government’s job. #txlege
https://www.newsweek.com/ice-chief-vows-crack-down-fake-families-using-children-pawns-border-1409471


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ICE to crack down on "fake families" using children as "pawns" at border
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is committed to "protecting
children by ensuring they are not used as pawns by individuals
attempting to gain entry to the U.S. through fraud," ICE acting

newsweek.com
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The Daily Signal

@DailySignal
Does our immigration system incentivize child
trafficking?@DanCrenshawTX shares a chilling story to raise awareness to
a crisis few understand.

"People of good intentions don't want to believe our system incentivizes
this terrible behavior..."

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So what are the chances of Congress adopting a sensible, Ron
Johnson-esque approach to these acute and unrelenting policy challenges?
One can always hold out hope, but consider the political backdrop of
House Democrats being unable to rally behind a bill to implement the
sort of "clean" DREAM Act they've been demanding for years. Why?
They're fighting amongst themselves about whether or not that sort of
amnesty (which I generally favor) should be extended to illegal
immigrants with criminal records. Yes, really:

House Democrats have shelved plans to advance legislation protecting
“Dreamers” next week, delivering a setback to the caucus on a top
legislative priority. The bill is stalled because of an intraparty fight
over providing citizenship to undocumented immigrants with criminal
records, multiple lawmakers and aides said Thursday, and a likely
committee vote is now delayed...Democrats are worried the bill as
currently written couldn't even survive a committee markup and have
privately fretted about the potential amendments Republicans will offer.
Senior Democrats are also concerned that Republicans could weaponize the
Dreamers bill on the floor and force immigration votes on amendments
that could be tough for swing district Democrats to oppose...The bill,
authored by Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-Calif.), would allow
undocumented immigrants to commit three misdemeanors before they’re
disqualified from seeking citizenship. But some Democrats worry the
language in the bill is too broad and want to consider changes so that
committing only certain misdemeanors would allow people to remain on the
path to citizenship.

I'll leave you with a question for every Democratic presidential
candidates: How many crimes should an illegal immigrant be allowed to
commit while maintaining his eligibility to become a citizen?

Guy Benson's Latest Book, End of Discussion: How the Left's Outrage
Industry Shuts Down Debate, Manipulates Voters, and Makes America Less
Free (and Fun). is available on Amazon

also

New York Times editorial board tells Congress to 'give Trump his border
money'
The New York Times editorial board urged Congress to give President
Trump the administration's requested $4.5 billion in emergency funding
for the crisis at ...

Washington Examiner
Yesterday
NYT Editorial Board: ‘Trump Is Right’ About Border Crisis, Congress
Should Approve Funds
The New York Times editorial board urged Congress to give the Donald
Trump administration requested emergency funds, writing that the
president was right ...

Washington Free Beacon
Yesterday

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/long-time-new-york-times-liberal-columnist-argues-for-trumps-border-wall-the-solution-is-a-high-wall

Long-time New York Times' liberal columnist argues for Trump's border
wall: 'The solution is a high wall'
By Liam Quinn | Fox News

President Trump has an unlikely new ally -- one of The New York Times’
most liberal and well-known voices.

Thomas Friedman, a long-time member of The New York Times and columnist
for the newspaper since 1995, has been scathing in his criticism of
President Trump. In a column last February, the award-winning writer
described Trump as the “biggest threat to the integrity of our democracy
today.”

During a CNN interview, the Pulitzer Prize winner also called Trump
“disturbed,” adding that if Hillary Clinton were president and “done one
of the things Donald Trump” was accused of doing, she would have been
impeached.

Yet, Friedman now finds himself standing on the same side as Trump on
one of the president’s signature issues -- the border wall.

The veteran scribe’s latest column begins by detailing a recent trip he
took to parts of the southern border.

“On April 12, I toured the busiest border crossing between America and
Mexico — the San Ysidro Port of Entry, in San Diego — and the walls
being built around it,” the piece reads.

“Guided by a U.S. Border Patrol team, I also traveled along the border
right down to where the newest 18-foot-high slatted steel barrier ends
and the wide-open hills and craggy valleys beckoning drug smugglers,
asylum seekers and illegal immigrants begin.

“It’s a very troubling scene.”

Friedman continued: “The whole day left me more certain than ever that
we have a real immigration crisis and that the solution is a high wall
with a big gate — but a smart gate.”

“Without a high wall, too many Americans will lack confidence that we
can control our borders, and they therefore will oppose the steady
immigration we need.”

The piece continued to discuss how he believes the wall needed a “smart
and compassionate” gate, and the country must welcome immigrants and
asylum seekers “at a rate at which they can be properly absorbed into
our society and work force.”

The column is in stark contrast to a piece published in February by the
Times' Editorial Board, titled, "Phony Wall, Phony Emergency."

The column, published in the wake of President Trump's national
emergency declaration, charged: "In reality, the wall is not a done
deal, and Mr. Trump has spent the past few months — the past two years,
really — failing to convince either Congress or Mexico to pay for it.
This week’s bipartisan spending bill, which contained no more wall money
than the one over which Mr. Trump shut down the government in December,
was a particularly humiliating defeat."
Alan Baker
2019-05-15 19:43:25 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by a425couple
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA in
April 2019.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehensions
Lynn
1. Fox News?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2. You can't even get what they actually said correct.
from
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/05/06/oh-my-nyt-editorial-board-concedes-trump-is-right-about-the-border-crisis-urges-congress-to-fulfill-his-budget-request-n2545915
Oh My: NYT Editorial Board Concedes Trump is Right on Border Crisis,
Urges Congress to Fulfill New WH Budget Request
Oh My: NYT Editorial Board Concedes Trump is Right on Border Crisis,
Urges Congress to Fulfill New WH Budget Request
Everyone knows the old sayings about broken clocks and blind squirrels,
but I'll confess to being genuinely surprised by this one.  The editors
of the New York Times, one of the most reliably liberal mainstream
publications in America, are no longer able to ignore or abide the
ongoing chaos at the Southern border.  In a new house editorial, they
acknowledge reality and urge Congressional Democrats to get serious
about the problem -- including a call to fulfill the Trump
Arthur Schwartz

@ArthurSchwartz
 New York Times Editorial Board: “President Trump is right: There is a
crisis at the southern border.”
7,507
6:35 AM - May 6, 2019
3,653 people are talking about this
Twitter Ads info and privacy
The piece includes some throat clearing and shots at the president, but
its overall message is at least somewhat constructive.  And it's a far
President Trump is right: There is a crisis at the southern border. Just
not the one he rants about...But as record numbers of Central American
families flee violence and poverty in their homelands, they are
overwhelming United States border systems, fueling a humanitarian crisis
of overcrowding, disease and chaos. The Border Patrol is now averaging
1,200 daily arrests, with many migrants arriving exhausted and sick...On
Wednesday, the White House sent Congress a request for $4.5 billion in
emergency funding to help manage the surge. In a letter to lawmakers,
the acting director of the White House’s budget office, Russell Vought,
sought to convey the scope of the challenge. “In February, U.S. Customs
and Border Protection (CBP) encountered more than 76,000 illegal border
crossers and inadmissible aliens, and in March that number exceeded
100,000 — the highest monthly level in more than a decade,” Mr. Vought
wrote. He described what he said were “alarming numbers” of women and
children jammed into Border Patrol stations never intended as long-term
shelters.
Funding for vital services is not expected to last through the fiscal
year, Mr. Vought said. Most urgently, the program that deals with
unaccompanied minors is expected to run dry next month, requiring
resources to be diverted from other programs and leading to a further
deterioration in conditions...Nearly three-quarters of the funds, $3.3
billion, would be earmarked for humanitarian needs, with much of it
flowing to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the agency responsible
for unaccompanied minors. None of the money would go toward Mr. Trump’s
border wall. Several hundred million dollars would, however, go toward
shoring up border security operations, including increasing the number
of detention beds overseen by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or
ICE. This, for Democrats, is a nonstarter...The Democratic chairwoman of
the House Appropriations Committee, Nita Lowey of New York, said that
the administration was seeking billions of dollars to “double down on
cruel and ill-conceived policies” and bail out ICE for locking up more
migrant families than it could humanely accommodate. But until better
policies are in place, Democrats need to find a way to provide money for
adequate shelter.
Consider how extraordinary it is that the Times feels compelled to
describe any effort to enhance border security -- even excluding 'the
wall' -- or to provide additional detention beds as 'nonstarters' for
Democrats.  Both of these priorities are urgently needed.  The editorial
rightly tells Democrats that "until better policies are in place," they
need to "find a way to provide money for adequate shelter."
Unfortunately, a significant portion of the Democratic Party is overtly
or effectively in favor of "catch and release" policies that inexorably
increase the number of illegal immigrants living inside the United
States.  A number of them have even proposed decreasing border security
and enforcement mechanisms, even as this undeniable crisis is playing
out.  Meanwhile, we see verifiable evidence of traffickers creating
false families to exploit our broken status quo, which creates an
Greg Abbott

@GregAbbott_TX
 ICE is Cracking Down on 'Fake Families' Using Children as 'Pawns' at
Border. I can’t believe some people say the border is not an emergency
issue.
Texas is about to spend almost a billion dollars in state money to do
the federal government’s job. #txlege
https://www.newsweek.com/ice-chief-vows-crack-down-fake-families-using-children-pawns-border-1409471

4,240
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ICE to crack down on "fake families" using children as "pawns" at border
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is committed to "protecting
children by ensuring they are not used as pawns by individuals
attempting to gain entry to the U.S. through fraud," ICE acting
newsweek.com
1,650 people are talking about this
 Embedded video
The Daily Signal

@DailySignal
 Does our immigration system incentivize child
a crisis few understand.
"People of good intentions don't want to believe our system incentivizes
this terrible behavior..."
348
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So what are the chances of Congress adopting a sensible, Ron
Johnson-esque approach to these acute and unrelenting policy challenges?
 One can always hold out hope, but consider the political backdrop of
House Democrats being unable to rally behind a bill to implement the
sort of "clean" DREAM Act they've been demanding for years.  Why?
They're fighting amongst themselves about whether or not that sort of
amnesty (which I generally favor) should be extended to illegal
House Democrats have shelved plans to advance legislation protecting
“Dreamers” next week, delivering a setback to the caucus on a top
legislative priority. The bill is stalled because of an intraparty fight
over providing citizenship to undocumented immigrants with criminal
records, multiple lawmakers and aides said Thursday, and a likely
committee vote is now delayed...Democrats are worried the bill as
currently written couldn't even survive a committee markup and have
privately fretted about the potential amendments Republicans will offer.
Senior Democrats are also concerned that Republicans could weaponize the
Dreamers bill on the floor and force immigration votes on amendments
that could be tough for swing district Democrats to oppose...The bill,
authored by Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-Calif.), would allow
undocumented immigrants to commit three misdemeanors before they’re
disqualified from seeking citizenship. But some Democrats worry the
language in the bill is too broad and want to consider changes so that
committing only certain misdemeanors would allow people to remain on the
path to citizenship.
I'll leave you with a question for every Democratic presidential
candidates: How many crimes should an illegal immigrant be allowed to
commit while maintaining his eligibility to become a citizen?
Guy Benson's Latest Book, End of Discussion: How the Left's Outrage
Industry Shuts Down Debate, Manipulates Voters, and Makes America Less
Free (and Fun). is available on Amazon
also
New York Times editorial board tells Congress to 'give Trump his border
money'
The New York Times editorial board urged Congress to give President
Trump the administration's requested $4.5 billion in emergency funding
for the crisis at ...
Washington Examiner
Yesterday
NYT Editorial Board: ‘Trump Is Right’ About Border Crisis, Congress
Should Approve Funds
The New York Times editorial board urged Congress to give the Donald
Trump administration requested emergency funds, writing that the
president was right ...
Washington Free Beacon
Yesterday
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/long-time-new-york-times-liberal-columnist-argues-for-trumps-border-wall-the-solution-is-a-high-wall
Long-time New York Times' liberal columnist argues for Trump's border
wall: 'The solution is a high wall'
By Liam Quinn | Fox News
President Trump has an unlikely new ally -- one of The New York Times’
most liberal and well-known voices.
Thomas Friedman, a long-time member of The New York Times and columnist
for the newspaper since 1995, has been scathing in his criticism of
President Trump. In a column last February, the award-winning writer
described Trump as the “biggest threat to the integrity of our democracy
today.”
During a CNN interview, the Pulitzer Prize winner also called Trump
“disturbed,” adding that if Hillary Clinton were president and “done one
of the things Donald Trump” was accused of doing, she would have been
impeached.
Yet, Friedman now finds himself standing on the same side as Trump on
one of the president’s signature issues -- the border wall.
The veteran scribe’s latest column begins by detailing a recent trip he
took to parts of the southern border.
“On April 12, I toured the busiest border crossing between America and
Mexico — the San Ysidro Port of Entry, in San Diego — and the walls
being built around it,” the piece reads.
“Guided by a U.S. Border Patrol team, I also traveled along the border
right down to where the newest 18-foot-high slatted steel barrier ends
and the wide-open hills and craggy valleys beckoning drug smugglers,
asylum seekers and illegal immigrants begin.
“It’s a very troubling scene.”
Friedman continued: “The whole day left me more certain than ever that
we have a real immigration crisis and that the solution is a high wall
with a big gate — but a smart gate.”
“Without a high wall, too many Americans will lack confidence that we
can control our borders, and they therefore will oppose the steady
immigration we need.”
The piece continued to discuss how he believes the wall needed a “smart
and compassionate” gate, and the country must welcome immigrants and
asylum seekers “at a rate at which they can be properly absorbed into
our society and work force.”
The column is in stark contrast to a piece published in February by the
Times' Editorial Board, titled, "Phony Wall, Phony Emergency."
The column, published in the wake of President Trump's national
emergency declaration, charged: "In reality, the wall is not a done
deal, and Mr. Trump has spent the past few months — the past two years,
really — failing to convince either Congress or Mexico to pay for it.
This week’s bipartisan spending bill, which contained no more wall money
than the one over which Mr. Trump shut down the government in December,
was a particularly humiliating defeat."
That's called "cherry-picking".

Let's look at townhall.com's quote:

'President Trump is right: There is a crisis at the southern border.
Just not the one he rants about...But as record numbers of Central
American families flee violence and poverty in their homelands, they are
overwhelming United States border systems, fueling a humanitarian crisis
of overcrowding, disease and chaos. '

So what did they leave out with that '...'?

This:

'There is no pressing national security threat — no invasion of
murderers, drug cartels or terrorists. No matter how often Mr. Trump
delivers such warnings, they bear little resemblance to the truth.'

So basically, townhall.com lied by omission.
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-15 19:47:49 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
So basically, townhall.com lied by omission.
As opposed to your overt lying?

I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Alan Baker
2019-05-15 19:53:39 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Alan Baker
So basically, townhall.com lied by omission.
As opposed to your overt lying?
I haven't lied.

But I note you don't deny that townhall.com lied.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Nope, coward, you did not.

:-)
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-15 21:45:30 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Alan Baker
2019-05-15 21:48:28 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
No, coward...

...you didn't.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-15 21:52:26 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
a425couple
2019-05-16 15:07:08 UTC
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Post by a425couple
from
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/05/06/oh-my-nyt-editorial-board-concedes-trump-is-right-about-the-border-crisis-urges-congress-to-fulfill-his-budget-request-n2545915
Oh My: NYT Editorial Board Concedes Trump is Right on Border Crisis,
Urges Congress to Fulfill New WH Budget Request
That's called "cherry-picking".
The core of the issue is, can a country control who
comes over it's border and enters.

I do note that your country certainly does limit
and control who enters it's borders. Turns out certain
ICSCC licensed drivers never do, and never will go into
Canada because at one time they were arrested in
the USA for DUI.

So if your country can stop, identify, and ban
entry for that, why can't the USA also stop, check
and decide on the criteria it chooses to?
David Johnston
2019-05-16 15:56:15 UTC
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Post by a425couple
Post by Alan Baker
Post by a425couple
from
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/05/06/oh-my-nyt-editorial-board-concedes-trump-is-right-about-the-border-crisis-urges-congress-to-fulfill-his-budget-request-n2545915
Oh My: NYT Editorial Board Concedes Trump is Right on Border Crisis,
There is nothing in that editorial about building the Great Wall of Trump.
Post by a425couple
Post by Alan Baker
Post by a425couple
Urges Congress to Fulfill New WH Budget Request
That's called "cherry-picking".
The core of the issue is, can a country control who
comes over it's border and enters.
Nope. The core of the issue is "Is a gigantic symbolic wall that won't
be paid for the solution to border control".
Alan Baker
2019-05-16 16:48:33 UTC
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Post by a425couple
Post by Alan Baker
Post by a425couple
from
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/05/06/oh-my-nyt-editorial-board-concedes-trump-is-right-about-the-border-crisis-urges-congress-to-fulfill-his-budget-request-n2545915
Oh My: NYT Editorial Board Concedes Trump is Right on Border Crisis,
Urges Congress to Fulfill New WH Budget Request
That's called "cherry-picking".
The core of the issue is, can a country control who
comes over it's border and enters.
I do note that your country certainly does limit
and control who enters it's borders.  Turns out certain
ICSCC licensed drivers never do, and never will go into
Canada because at one time they were arrested in
the USA for DUI.
So if your country can stop, identify, and ban
entry for that, why can't the USA also stop, check
and decide on the criteria it chooses to?
I'm not saying it shouldn't.

But your source is dishonest about what was being said.

That's just a fact.
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-16 17:47:41 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Alan Baker
2019-05-16 18:16:03 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
No, coward...

...you didn't.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-16 20:30:38 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 23:38:48 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehen
sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You number
may include more of the border than this, though.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers put out
by the people actually arresting these people. In short, Alan is
mentally ill and hallucinating.

But we knew that already.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Alan Baker
2019-05-14 23:42:09 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehen
sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You number
may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers put out
by the people actually arresting these people. In short, Alan is
mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
But we knew that already.
...and we both know you'll never produce any reference that says different.

:-)
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-14 23:45:11 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-appre
hen sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You
number may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers
put out by the people actually arresting these people. In
short, Alan is mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
Liar.

Do you accept the 98,000 number I linked to? Yes or not. No
dodging, no prevariaction, simple yes or no:

Do you accept that Lynn was *clearly* right when he said that tens
of thousand of people enter the United States every month?

You will _never_ give a clear answer to that, because you *know* he
*was* clearly right, and that you're *stupid* for doubting it.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Alan Baker
2019-05-14 23:54:32 UTC
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On 2019-05-14 4:38 p.m., Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-appre
hen sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You
number may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers
put out by the people actually arresting these people. In
short, Alan is mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
Liar.
Do you accept the 98,000 number I linked to? Yes or not. No
Coward.

I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've previously said.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Do you accept that Lynn was *clearly* right when he said that tens
of thousand of people enter the United States every month?
Coward.

I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've previously said.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You will _never_ give a clear answer to that, because you *know* he
*was* clearly right, and that you're *stupid* for doubting it.
Coward.

I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've previously said.
Ninapenda Jibini
2019-05-15 02:58:02 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
On 2019-05-14 4:38 p.m., Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
On 5/14/2019 3:09 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many
illegals are crossing the border per month right now
(90,000 in March) do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the
USA in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-ap
pre hen sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You
number may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers
put out by the people actually arresting these people. In
short, Alan is mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
Liar.
Do you accept the 98,000 number I linked to? Yes or not. No
Coward.
I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've
previously said.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Do you accept that Lynn was *clearly* right when he said that
tens of thousand of people enter the United States every month?
Coward.
I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've
previously said.
I told you you would _never_ admit to your clinical paranoia.

I asked first.

You *lie*.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
You will _never_ give a clear answer to that, because you
*know* he *was* clearly right, and that you're *stupid* for
doubting it.
Coward.
I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've
previously said.
You will _never_ answer under any circumstances, because you *know*
you'll be admitting to your mental illness.

Now run away, as you *always* do, little boy.

Here's the link to the proof that Alan Baker is a lying sack of
shit, only without the sack:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

(I'm adding that to my .sig, just for you.)
--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Alan Baker
2019-05-15 06:24:06 UTC
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On 2019-05-14 4:45 p.m., Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
On 2019-05-14 4:38 p.m., Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
On 5/14/2019 3:09 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many
illegals are crossing the border per month right now
(90,000 in March) do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the
USA in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-ap
pre hen sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You
number may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers
put out by the people actually arresting these people. In
short, Alan is mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
Liar.
Do you accept the 98,000 number I linked to? Yes or not. No
Coward.
I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've
previously said.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Do you accept that Lynn was *clearly* right when he said that
tens of thousand of people enter the United States every month?
Coward.
I won't answer until you address your claim about what I've
previously said.
I told you you would _never_ admit to your clinical paranoia.
I asked first.
You *lie*.
Nope.

Coward.
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-15 15:17:12 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Alan Baker
2019-05-15 19:23:16 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Nope, coward.

:-)
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-15 19:46:44 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Alan Baker
2019-05-15 19:52:56 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Nope, coward, you did not.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-15 21:45:18 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Robert Carnegie
2019-05-15 22:00:30 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehen
sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You number
may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers put out
by the people actually arresting these people. In short, Alan is
mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
T E R R Y I S L Y I N G.

You already know that. And your eye balls terminate
their function when you have seen 1.2 million distinct
things. Of which, if you will let me advise you,
as few as possible should be produced by Terry Austin.

He wants to take your eyes. Don't let him. They are
yours.

(If you are reading this in Braille... too bad,
but I tried.)
Alan Baker
2019-05-15 22:02:20 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals
are crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March)
do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the USA
in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-apprehen
sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You number
may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers put out
by the people actually arresting these people. In short, Alan is
mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
T E R R Y I S L Y I N G.
You already know that. And your eye balls terminate
their function when you have seen 1.2 million distinct
things. Of which, if you will let me advise you,
as few as possible should be produced by Terry Austin.
He wants to take your eyes. Don't let him. They are
yours.
(If you are reading this in Braille... too bad,
but I tried.)
He can't take my eyes...

...but he can amuse me.

:-)
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-16 15:22:17 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Alan Baker
2019-05-16 16:48:52 UTC
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I asked you first.
No, coward, you really didn't.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-16 17:47:47 UTC
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I asked you first.

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?

So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many illegals are
crossing the border per month right now (90,000 in March) do you
dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal conspiracy
to inflate the numbers?

Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-16 15:22:10 UTC
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On 2019-05-14 4:38 p.m., Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
On 5/14/2019 3:09 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
I asked you first.
Why are you so afraid to answer the questions, Alan?
So exactly what part of the CBP numbers on how many
illegals are crossing the border per month right now
(90,000 in March) do you dispute, and why?
Be specific. Name names. Who is the head of the criminal
conspiracy to inflate the numbers?
Or are you running away, tail between your legs, again?
109,144 illegal aliens crossing the southern border of the
USA in April 2019.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-border-app
rehen sions
The official number for the southwest border is 98,977. You
number may include more of the border than this, though.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
Not that Alan has already said he doesn't believe the numbers
put out by the people actually arresting these people. In
short, Alan is mentally ill and hallucinating.
I've never said anything resembling that...
T E R R Y I S L Y I N G.
You already know that. And your eye balls terminate
their function when you have seen 1.2 million distinct
things. Of which, if you will let me advise you,
as few as possible should be produced by Terry Austin.
He wants to take your eyes. Don't let him. They are
yours.
(If you are reading this in Braille... too bad,
but I tried.)
And yet, here you are, dangling on the hook.

Again.

Do *you* agree that Lynn was 100% correct when he said that tends
of thousands of people are crossing the border illegally every
month?
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Lynn McGuire
2019-05-14 20:31:03 UTC
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from
https://www.businessinsider.com/sci-fi-movie-predictions-2019-5
9 predictions from old sci-fi movies that actually came true
Dave Johnson May 11, 2019, 10:05 AM
...

I am glad that "When Worlds Collide" has not come true. That would
really suck.
https://www.amazon.com/When-Worlds-Collide-Richard-Derr/dp/B074PVD2MC/

Lynn
Bice
2019-05-15 21:14:50 UTC
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On Mon, 13 May 2019 16:51:43 -0700, a425couple
Earbuds 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
It wouldn't be until 2001 and the first Apple iPod that people started
wearing seashells, submersing themselves in music and podcasts just like
the film depicted.
Don't know if this has been pointed out (haven't read the whole thread
yet), but this is yet another case of giving Apple credit for
inventing something that had existed long before they made it
fashionable.

I spent a good portion of the 1980s walking around with various
cassette players that had in-ear headphones. They weren't called
"earbuds" back then (of course, they weren't called "seashells"
either), but the claim that Apple invented them in 2001 makes me think
this article was probably written by a millennial who doesn't realize
that music existed before hip-hop came along.

-- Bob
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-15 21:49:00 UTC
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On Mon, 13 May 2019 16:51:43 -0700, a425couple
Earbuds 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
It wouldn't be until 2001 and the first Apple iPod that people
started wearing seashells, submersing themselves in music and
podcasts just like the film depicted.
Don't know if this has been pointed out (haven't read the whole
thread yet), but this is yet another case of giving Apple credit
for inventing something that had existed long before they made
it fashionable.
I spent a good portion of the 1980s walking around with various
cassette players that had in-ear headphones. They weren't
called "earbuds" back then (of course, they weren't called
"seashells" either), but the claim that Apple invented them in
2001 makes me think this article was probably written by a
millennial who doesn't realize that music existed before hip-hop
came along.
Strictly speaking, didn't Star Trek have that in 1966? I recall Uhura
having something very like a wireless earphone, with a little antenna
sticking out so you knew it was there.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Kevrob
2019-05-16 00:51:41 UTC
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Post by Bice
On Mon, 13 May 2019 16:51:43 -0700, a425couple
Earbuds 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
It wouldn't be until 2001 and the first Apple iPod that people
started wearing seashells, submersing themselves in music and
podcasts just like the film depicted.
Don't know if this has been pointed out (haven't read the whole
thread yet), but this is yet another case of giving Apple credit
for inventing something that had existed long before they made
it fashionable.
I spent a good portion of the 1980s walking around with various
cassette players that had in-ear headphones. They weren't
called "earbuds" back then (of course, they weren't called
"seashells" either), but the claim that Apple invented them in
2001 makes me think this article was probably written by a
millennial who doesn't realize that music existed before hip-hop
came along.
Strictly speaking, didn't Star Trek have that in 1966? I recall Uhura
having something very like a wireless earphone, with a little antenna
sticking out so you knew it was there.
That was a bit like a bluetooth gadget, Mark I, wasn't it?

Here's something fun: an early patent for in-the-ear headphones:

[quote]

The first patent for earbuds dates back to 1891, when French
electrical engineer Ernest Jules Pierre Mercadier designed the
"bi-telephone" for communications use.

[/quote]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2017/mar/17/most-influential-headphones-in-pictures

"Earbuds" from 1926:

https://psmag.com/social-justice/the-earbuds-of-1926-work-in-progress-46157

As a kid growing up in the 60's, a shirt-pocket transistor-radio with
a single earphone was the closest thing to an mp3 player or similar
tech on your smartphone that we had. I did once Frankenstein a couple
of earphones into a 2-ear version. The source was mono, so there was
no real stereo effect, but it was cooler, if not practical. My soldering
skills (You'll burn the house down!) were non-existent, and I did things
like that with twisted wire, electrical tape and the occasional piece
of dedicated hardware from Radio Shack. Making an extra long earphone
so the radio could be placed _just so_ in the room for best reception,
and still allow me to recline on my bed reading, without disturbing the
rest of the house with whatever hard to receive station I had managed to
tune in, would be one example.

Kevin R
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2019-05-16 15:26:08 UTC
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On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 5:49:05 PM UTC-4, Jibini Kula
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Bice
On Mon, 13 May 2019 16:51:43 -0700, a425couple
Earbuds 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
It wouldn't be until 2001 and the first Apple iPod that
people started wearing seashells, submersing themselves in
music and podcasts just like the film depicted.
Don't know if this has been pointed out (haven't read the
whole thread yet), but this is yet another case of giving
Apple credit for inventing something that had existed long
before they made it fashionable.
I spent a good portion of the 1980s walking around with
various cassette players that had in-ear headphones. They
weren't called "earbuds" back then (of course, they weren't
called "seashells" either), but the claim that Apple invented
them in 2001 makes me think this article was probably written
by a millennial who doesn't realize that music existed before
hip-hop came along.
Strictly speaking, didn't Star Trek have that in 1966? I recall
Uhura having something very like a wireless earphone, with a
little antenna sticking out so you knew it was there.
That was a bit like a bluetooth gadget, Mark I, wasn't it?
It gets compares to that now, sure. But it predate the invention of
Bluetooth by nearly 30 years. At the time, it was a single earphone
with a tiny antenna instead of a wire. Other than the antenna, it
wasn't particularly revlutionary, as noted. Earphones (even single
earphones) had been around a long, long time.

http://dash.coolsmartphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Uhura-
ear-piece-03.jpg
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
Peter Trei
2019-05-16 16:56:16 UTC
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On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 5:49:05 PM UTC-4, Jibini Kula
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Bice
On Mon, 13 May 2019 16:51:43 -0700, a425couple
Earbuds 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
It wouldn't be until 2001 and the first Apple iPod that
people started wearing seashells, submersing themselves in
music and podcasts just like the film depicted.
Don't know if this has been pointed out (haven't read the
whole thread yet), but this is yet another case of giving
Apple credit for inventing something that had existed long
before they made it fashionable.
I spent a good portion of the 1980s walking around with
various cassette players that had in-ear headphones. They
weren't called "earbuds" back then (of course, they weren't
called "seashells" either), but the claim that Apple invented
them in 2001 makes me think this article was probably written
by a millennial who doesn't realize that music existed before
hip-hop came along.
That was my take, too.
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Strictly speaking, didn't Star Trek have that in 1966? I recall
Uhura having something very like a wireless earphone, with a
little antenna sticking out so you knew it was there.
That was a bit like a bluetooth gadget, Mark I, wasn't it?
It gets compares to that now, sure. But it predate the invention of
Bluetooth by nearly 30 years. At the time, it was a single earphone
with a tiny antenna instead of a wire. Other than the antenna, it
wasn't particularly revlutionary, as noted. Earphones (even single
earphones) had been around a long, long time.
http://dash.coolsmartphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Uhura-
ear-piece-03.jpg
I had one like this come with my transistor radio back in the mid-60s:
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...they weren't new then either. Spent many an hour illicitly listening with
this after lights out at my boarding school.

pt
Cybe R. Wizard
2019-05-16 18:43:35 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Bice
On Mon, 13 May 2019 16:51:43 -0700, a425couple
Earbuds 'Fahrenheit 451,' 1966
It wouldn't be until 2001 and the first Apple iPod that people
started wearing seashells, submersing themselves in music and
podcasts just like the film depicted.
Don't know if this has been pointed out (haven't read the whole
thread yet), but this is yet another case of giving Apple credit
for inventing something that had existed long before they made
it fashionable.
I spent a good portion of the 1980s walking around with various
cassette players that had in-ear headphones. They weren't
called "earbuds" back then (of course, they weren't called
"seashells" either), but the claim that Apple invented them in
2001 makes me think this article was probably written by a
millennial who doesn't realize that music existed before hip-hop
came along.
Strictly speaking, didn't Star Trek have that in 1966? I recall Uhura
having something very like a wireless earphone, with a little antenna
sticking out so you knew it was there.
We had them commercially before that. Of course, they were earphones,
not earbuds, but that's just terminology:

Early 60s:
http://rident.tripod.com/antiquecrystalradio5.html

1963 (assumed from serial number date code):
https://www.jamesbutters.com/olympic779.htm

60s:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/575636242/vintage-60s-midland-10-020-portable-am
--
Cybe R. Wizard

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull
his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you
understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send
signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that
there is no cat.
Albert Einstein, when asked to describe radio
Christian Weisgerber
2019-05-16 16:57:54 UTC
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either), but the claim that Apple invented them in 2001 makes me think
this article was probably written by a millennial who doesn't realize
that music existed before hip-hop came along.
The whole article is too stupid to comment on.
Case in point: videotelephony. AT&T demonstrated its Picturephone
and showed off a transcontinental videocall at the 1964 World Fair.
--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber ***@mips.inka.de
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