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Dilbert: Service Human
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Lynn McGuire
2019-06-04 17:42:02 UTC
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Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04

Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.

Lynn
Peter Trei
2019-06-04 18:11:23 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
Lynn: We're old. I get New Yorker, Economist, and Comm. ACM.

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Scott Lurndal
2019-06-04 18:40:42 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
Lynn: We're old. I get New Yorker, Economist, and Comm. ACM.
Aviation Week and Space Technology, Fine Woodworking and Shop Notes.
David DeLaney
2019-06-06 14:52:52 UTC
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Post by Scott Lurndal
Post by Peter Trei
Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
Lynn: We're old. I get New Yorker, Economist, and Comm. ACM.
Aviation Week and Space Technology, Fine Woodworking and Shop Notes.
Scientific American, Funny Times, Santa Cruz Comic News, the Talbots catalog
(for work), and until recently, the Harmonizer.

Dave, also a couple of involuntary alumni magazines
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Dorothy J Heydt
2019-06-04 18:42:09 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
Lynn: We're old. I get New Yorker, Economist, and Comm. ACM.
I see things online that used to be and/or still are newspapers
and/or magazines. Hal actually gets Scientific American and
Maximum PC in dead-tree form.

And won't let me put them in the recycling, even when they're
months or years old. "I might want to read them again sometime!"

This year, next year, sometime, never ....
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Peter Trei
2019-06-04 19:09:26 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Peter Trei
Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
Lynn: We're old. I get New Yorker, Economist, and Comm. ACM.
I see things online that used to be and/or still are newspapers
and/or magazines. Hal actually gets Scientific American and
Maximum PC in dead-tree form.
And won't let me put them in the recycling, even when they're
months or years old. "I might want to read them again sometime!"
This year, next year, sometime, never ....
One of the harder things I realized growing up was that at some point, there
is zero chance that you're going to delve into your 30 year collection of
Scientific American...

Its made easier by the fact that many magazines now have deep online archives
available to subscribers.

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Lynn McGuire
2019-06-04 19:25:03 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Peter Trei
Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
Lynn: We're old. I get New Yorker, Economist, and Comm. ACM.
I see things online that used to be and/or still are newspapers
and/or magazines. Hal actually gets Scientific American and
Maximum PC in dead-tree form.
And won't let me put them in the recycling, even when they're
months or years old. "I might want to read them again sometime!"
This year, next year, sometime, never ....
I've got a half dozen Maximum PC mags in the truck for doctor visits. I
bring my own magazine and leave it there.

Lynn
Jay E. Morris
2019-06-04 21:49:43 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Peter Trei
Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
Lynn: We're old. I get New Yorker, Economist, and Comm. ACM.
I see things online that used to be and/or still are newspapers
and/or magazines. Hal actually gets Scientific American and
Maximum PC in dead-tree form.
And won't let me put them in the recycling, even when they're
months or years old. "I might want to read them again sometime!"
This year, next year, sometime, never ....
Somewhere, in a box, are all the issues of the Tandy Model 100 magazine.
Along with the Tandy M100 and accessories. One day......
p***@hotmail.com
2019-06-05 04:56:41 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I read that the publishers of_Guns and Ammo_ have
contingency plans to switch to a smaller format
in case lawmakers ban oversized firearms magazines.

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2019-06-05 05:09:44 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I read that the publishers of_Guns and Ammo_ have
contingency plans to switch to a smaller format
in case lawmakers ban oversized firearms magazines.
Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist
Will you be here all week?
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Lynn McGuire
2019-06-05 19:15:04 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I read that the publishers of_Guns and Ammo_ have
contingency plans to switch to a smaller format
in case lawmakers ban oversized firearms magazines.
Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist
Heh.

Lynn
a***@yahoo.com
2019-06-05 21:43:18 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I read that the publishers of_Guns and Ammo_ have
contingency plans to switch to a smaller format
in case lawmakers ban oversized firearms magazines.
Well, that was their cover story.
Gene Wirchenko
2019-06-06 06:14:08 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I read that the publishers of_Guns and Ammo_ have
contingency plans to switch to a smaller format
in case lawmakers ban oversized firearms magazines.
Would it be impolite to shoot you, or is it de rigeur to do so?

Is there likely to be an issue if you go rapidfire through issues
looking for a particular article?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
nuny@bid.nes
2019-06-08 07:36:44 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Disappointing. I was hoping for a connection with "To Serve Man".

Or maybe with George Carlin's interpretation of "customer service".
Post by Lynn McGuire
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.


Mark L. Fergerson
Moriarty
2019-06-11 00:59:06 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Disappointing. I was hoping for a connection with "To Serve Man".
Or maybe with George Carlin's interpretation of "customer service".
Post by Lynn McGuire
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.

-Moriarty
J. Clarke
2019-06-11 01:28:29 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Disappointing. I was hoping for a connection with "To Serve Man".
Or maybe with George Carlin's interpretation of "customer service".
Post by Lynn McGuire
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
I used to read it regularly back in the '70s and '80s. Picked up a
copy the other day and it just seems very light compared to what it
used to be.
Joy Beeson
2019-06-11 03:15:30 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Moriarty
Post by Moriarty
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
The degradation was complete long before the beginning of the
twenty-first century.

It's quite possible that it has hit bottom and bounced back as a
different sort of magazine since I gave up on it.
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Peter Trei
2019-06-11 12:27:44 UTC
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Post by J. Clarke
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Moriarty
Post by Moriarty
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
The degradation was complete long before the beginning of the
twenty-first century.
It's quite possible that it has hit bottom and bounced back as a
different sort of magazine since I gave up on it.
I grew up with a SciAm subscription. I first noticed it dumbing down around
1975, and gave up on it entirely (aside from occasional newsstand purchaes)
sometime in the 1980s.

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Sjouke Burry
2019-06-11 21:02:52 UTC
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Post by J. Clarke
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Moriarty
Post by Moriarty
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
The degradation was complete long before the beginning of the
twenty-first century.
It's quite possible that it has hit bottom and bounced back as a
different sort of magazine since I gave up on it.
I grew up with a SciAm subscription. I first noticed it dumbing down around
1975, and gave up on it entirely (aside from occasional newsstand purchaes)
sometime in the 1980s.
pt
I also quit around that time.
They went green instead of scientific so i dumped them.
Scott Lurndal
2019-06-11 15:05:05 UTC
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Post by J. Clarke
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Moriarty
Post by Moriarty
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
The degradation was complete long before the beginning of the
twenty-first century.
It's quite possible that it has hit bottom and bounced back as a
different sort of magazine since I gave up on it.
I gave up on it a decade ago when the science content was replaced
with issue advocacy.
David DeLaney
2019-06-11 15:27:05 UTC
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Post by ***@bid.nes
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and
haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
Next time through take a look at ALL the ads.

Dave, yes, some ads are still okay. but some are from kookville
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
Moriarty
2019-06-11 21:54:17 UTC
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Post by Moriarty
Post by ***@bid.nes
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and
haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
Next time through take a look at ALL the ads.
Dave, yes, some ads are still okay. but some are from kookville
Well, I must admit I ignore ads whether on TV, radio or in magazines. Next issue, I'll pay closer attention to them.

But others have suggested dumbing down, advocacy or greening as a reason for dumping it. The last issue I finished - I'm about three behind - was March 2019. The main articles were:

1 The latest thinking on the composition of neutron stars.

2 Observations of grief in animals.

3 An analysis on mania - the opposite of depression - and why it needs to be considered in its own right and not simply as half of manic-depressive.

4 The jet stream and it's impacts on floods and droughts, and speculation on how climate change will impact it.

5 The looping structure of DNA.

6 The psych profile of people who are drawn to conspiracy theories.

7 Tool using in non-human primates.

I'm not really seeing anything particularly objectionable or dumbed down. I suppose a climate change denier would find 4 an example of green advocacy and recognise themselves in 6.

The editorials certainly advocate for greater recognition/spending/profile for STEM. But that's what they're for.

-Moriarty
Robert Carnegie
2019-06-11 21:54:35 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Disappointing. I was hoping for a connection with "To Serve Man".
Or maybe with George Carlin's interpretation of "customer service".
Post by Lynn McGuire
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
-Moriarty
I reflexively reject any authority that publishes
an explanation of autism, and they've done that.
Not that it shouldn't be possible, but it just
saves time and confusion to dismiss each at once.
Dimensional Traveler
2019-06-12 03:00:31 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
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Post by ***@bid.nes
Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Disappointing. I was hoping for a connection with "To Serve Man".
Or maybe with George Carlin's interpretation of "customer service".
Post by Lynn McGuire
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
-Moriarty
I reflexively reject any authority that publishes
an explanation of autism, and they've done that.
Huh? 'Splain please, what is wrong with explaining autism?
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instinct are running screaming.
Robert Carnegie
2019-06-12 06:59:53 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Moriarty
Post by ***@bid.nes
Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Disappointing. I was hoping for a connection with "To Serve Man".
Or maybe with George Carlin's interpretation of "customer service".
Post by Lynn McGuire
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
-Moriarty
I reflexively reject any authority that publishes
an explanation of autism, and they've done that.
Huh? 'Splain please, what is wrong with explaining autism?
Glad to oblige. As a rule of thumb, the explanation
bears no relation to previous ones (or the next one),
is presented with uncritical approval, and offers
no treatment or a ridiculous and dangerous one that,
I hardly need say, doesn't work. And I'm talking
about ostensibly respectable news sources, not the
plain patent-medicine shills who merrily exploit
desperate parents.

I think the "Scientific American" one was something
about grey matter and white matter in the brain.
And something about an ambitious, charismatic
scientist leading a small team along a shaky branch
of scientific thought which doesn't provide as much
fruit as they were hoping for. Then it snaps off.
That's also usually the pattern.
nuny@bid.nes
2019-06-12 07:53:18 UTC
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Post by ***@bid.nes
Post by Lynn McGuire
Dilbert: Service Human
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-04
Disappointing. I was hoping for a connection with "To Serve Man".
Or maybe with George Carlin's interpretation of "customer service".
Post by Lynn McGuire
Heh. Wait, I still read magazines ! Guns and Ammo, Mechanical
Engineering, Consumer Reports.
I used to but then SciAm went to hell.
What have you got against SciAm? I've been a subscriber for ~15 years now
and haven't noticed a degradation in quality.
Oh, sweet Summer child.

I started reading it in the early 1960s when C. L. Stong still conducted The Amateur Scientist column- I eagerly looked up back issues and wound up building my first telescope with instructions and hints from the column's immediate ancestor, The Amateur Astronomer. The magazine completely shut it down in 2001 along with all the other long-running columns when it "came under new management" for whatever reason. Maybe they didn't like the idea of mere citizens playing at science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amateur_Scientist

That's when it became "boring" to me.

I'm a hands-on guy and that column allowed us amateurs to construct some amazing tools, toys and instruments for cheap. Apparently citizens aren't encouraged to do things like that any more by whoever's publishing the rag these days.

Every once in a while I'll take a look at it, and the quality of the articles is definitely not up to what they used to be.

And let's not get into the editorializing, please. It started out as blatantly pro-technology- it styled itself "The Advocate of Industry and Enterprise" and "Journal of Mechanical and other Improvements" but at some point went about as Socialist as it is possible to become and still seek to make a profit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_American

Some of the column was made into a book that's now out of print, but I have the CD version.


Mark L. Fergerson

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