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A Transcontintental Tunnel, Hurrah! (apologies to Harry Harrison [a])
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danny burstein
2021-05-30 04:25:33 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps

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China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA

China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their network
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its eyes on
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.

According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska, across the
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
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2021-05-30 05:11:04 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
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China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their network
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its eyes on
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska, across the
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
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https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
So, Harry Harrison should have written 'A Transpacific Tunnel, Hurrah!"?

Seriously, there have been fictional and real life proposals for a Bering Straits bridge.

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danny burstein
2021-05-30 05:15:32 UTC
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So, Harry Harrison should have written 'A Transpacific Tunnel, Hurrah!"?
Seriously, there have been fictional and real life proposals for a Bering Straits bridge.
Also for dams, which would have hydro-electrical potential [a] so
large not even Han Solo's imagination could reach high enough.

[a] I see what I did there.
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Quadibloc
2021-05-31 14:57:12 UTC
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Seriously, there have been fictional and real life proposals for a Bering Straits bridge.
And, indeed, I read about one from the "Siberian Times" just moments before seeing
this thread.

My thought on seeing that was that the United States and Russia would need to become
friendly again first, which recent events in Belarus have not helped.

John Savard
J. Clarke
2021-05-30 07:59:37 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their network
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its eyes on
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska, across the
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
If they want to pour money down the rathole of high-speed rail in the
US more power to them.
Robert Carnegie
2021-05-30 15:23:05 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
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China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
How do we know they haven't already? :-)
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 15:48:19 UTC
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China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
How do we know they haven't already? :-)
Russian observers in Siberia would probably have noted a large
increase of activity on their seismometers (if they have any
there). US observers in the Aleutians would DEFINITELY have
noticed increased activity on the seismometers they undoubtedly
have in that tectonically unstable region.
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2021-05-30 16:42:51 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
How do we know they haven't already? :-)
Russian observers in Siberia would probably have noted a large
increase of activity on their seismometers (if they have any
there). US observers in the Aleutians would DEFINITELY have
noticed increased activity on the seismometers they undoubtedly
have in that tectonically unstable region.
Seismometers all over the planet would have noticed the activity. They
were sensitive enough to do that almost 40 years ago when I worked for a
company that dealt with seismic data.
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Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 17:28:57 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
How do we know they haven't already? :-)
Russian observers in Siberia would probably have noted a large
increase of activity on their seismometers (if they have any
there). US observers in the Aleutians would DEFINITELY have
noticed increased activity on the seismometers they undoubtedly
have in that tectonically unstable region.
Seismometers all over the planet would have noticed the activity. They
were sensitive enough to do that almost 40 years ago when I worked for a
company that dealt with seismic data.
Good point.

China *might* not have too much trouble getting Russia to allow
her to tunnel through Siberia. Permission from the US or Canada
is less likely.
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2021-05-30 18:51:34 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
How do we know they haven't already? :-)
Russian observers in Siberia would probably have noted a large
increase of activity on their seismometers (if they have any
there). US observers in the Aleutians would DEFINITELY have
noticed increased activity on the seismometers they undoubtedly
have in that tectonically unstable region.
Seismometers all over the planet would have noticed the activity. They
were sensitive enough to do that almost 40 years ago when I worked for a
company that dealt with seismic data.
Good point.
China *might* not have too much trouble getting Russia to allow
her to tunnel through Siberia. Permission from the US or Canada
is less likely.
Depends on when they started construction. There has been at least one
war between the two after WWII. I have difficulty imagining the current
Russia allowing it.
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Quadibloc
2021-05-31 14:55:37 UTC
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China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
How do we know they haven't already? :-)
As it happens, I just the other day saw a video on Wikipedia about bad
science fiction movies that referenced one with just that premise:

"Battle Beneath the Earth", I think it was called. Ah, yes, that was it:
from 1967, even, not the fifties!

John Savard
Paul S Person
2021-05-30 16:55:16 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their network
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its eyes on
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska, across the
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
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Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 17:30:03 UTC
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[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their network
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its eyes on
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
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Robert Carnegie
2021-05-30 18:11:09 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their network
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its eyes on
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
Do we rule out 'whereby'? ;-)
J. Clarke
2021-05-30 19:40:26 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their network
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its eyes on
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 20:19:58 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.

I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.

*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
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James Nicoll
2021-05-30 20:56:05 UTC
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[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
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reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
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2021-05-30 21:20:23 UTC
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[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
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reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
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what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
But then they'd be living in _IDAHO_!
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2021-05-31 14:26:40 UTC
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[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive
high-speed rail
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networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
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reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
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what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international
bullet train
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
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into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
That would be logical. Unfortunately, I think they want to move
to Idaho and take their land with them.
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2021-05-31 16:39:49 UTC
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[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive
high-speed rail
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networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
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reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
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what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international
bullet train
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
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into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
That would be logical. Unfortunately, I think they want to move
to Idaho and take their land with them.
And they are, no doubt, well-armed.

Still, I wonder if introducing them to the ancient Boor tradition of
Trekking would help ...
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-31 16:58:27 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
That would be logical. Unfortunately, I think they want to move
to Idaho and take their land with them.
And they are, no doubt, well-armed.
Still, I wonder if introducing them to the ancient Boor tradition of
Trekking would help ...
Looking over your statement several times, I come to the
conclusion that it has nothing to do with Star Trek, and that
Boor is an alternate spelling of Boer. I shall google and see if
I can find out what you're talking about.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-31 17:04:55 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
Still, I wonder if introducing them to the ancient Boor tradition of
Trekking would help ...
Looking over your statement several times, I come to the
conclusion that it has nothing to do with Star Trek, and that
Boor is an alternate spelling of Boer. I shall google and see if
I can find out what you're talking about.
Okay:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Trek

I now think I understand.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
J. Clarke
2021-05-31 18:01:05 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Paul S Person
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by James Nicoll
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
That would be logical. Unfortunately, I think they want to move
to Idaho and take their land with them.
And they are, no doubt, well-armed.
Still, I wonder if introducing them to the ancient Boor tradition of
Trekking would help ...
Looking over your statement several times, I come to the
conclusion that it has nothing to do with Star Trek, and that
Boor is an alternate spelling of Boer. I shall google and see if
I can find out what you're talking about.
I think he was trying to make a funny and made a hash instead. A
group of Boers trying to escape British rule moved deeper into the
interior of the continent. They were called "voortrekkers". One
could say that their practice was to "Boldly go where no (white) man
has gone before" however since one of their leaders was Retief, I may
have my fictons crossed.
Paul S Person
2021-06-01 16:53:19 UTC
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On Mon, 31 May 2021 14:01:05 -0400, J. Clarke
Post by J. Clarke
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Paul S Person
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by James Nicoll
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
That would be logical. Unfortunately, I think they want to move
to Idaho and take their land with them.
And they are, no doubt, well-armed.
Still, I wonder if introducing them to the ancient Boor tradition of
Trekking would help ...
Looking over your statement several times, I come to the
conclusion that it has nothing to do with Star Trek, and that
Boor is an alternate spelling of Boer. I shall google and see if
I can find out what you're talking about.
I think he was trying to make a funny and made a hash instead. A
group of Boers trying to escape British rule moved deeper into the
interior of the continent. They were called "voortrekkers". One
could say that their practice was to "Boldly go where no (white) man
has gone before" however since one of their leaders was Retief, I may
have my fictons crossed.
I made a typo. Sorry for any confusion.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
p***@hotmail.com
2021-06-05 23:52:25 UTC
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Der Boers come from der Voodvork out. (with apologies to Reginald Brentnor)

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-06-06 00:59:52 UTC
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Der Boers come from der Voodvork out. (with apologies to Reginald Brentnor)
/bonk
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Robert Carnegie
2021-05-31 19:29:08 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive
high-speed rail
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international
bullet train
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
That would be logical. Unfortunately, I think they want to move
to Idaho and take their land with them.
It seems so.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oregon-counties-vote-secede-idaho/>

Is this a great controversy in the U.S., or like one of those little
jokes in _The West Wing_ like telling the President that three
governors are competing to claim watermelon as their own
state vegetable - worrying, but not the week's no.1 storyline?

I exaggerate.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/watermelon-oklahoma-vegetable/>
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-31 22:42:23 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive
high-speed rail
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed,
13,000-kilometer
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through
Siberia in
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the
USA. Once
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
constructed, they have could further extend their international
bullet train
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
Couldn't the supposed Jeffersonians be humanely relocated to Idado
where being among like minded people they would be perfectly
content?
That would be logical. Unfortunately, I think they want to move
to Idaho and take their land with them.
It seems so.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oregon-counties-vote-secede-idaho/>
Is this a great controversy in the U.S., or like one of those little
jokes in _The West Wing_ like telling the President that three
governors are competing to claim watermelon as their own
state vegetable - worrying, but not the week's no.1 storyline?
Well, it's probably a great controversy for the Jeffersonians. I
don't think the rest of the US (except maybe some people in
Idaho) take it seriously.

I never watched The West Wing, so I can't remark on similarities.
Post by danny burstein
I exaggerate.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/watermelon-oklahoma-vegetable/>
Whatever.
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Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Kevrob
2021-06-06 04:02:59 UTC
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On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 3:29:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Carnegie wrote:


[snip]
Post by Robert Carnegie
Is this a great controversy in the U.S., or like one of those little
jokes in _The West Wing_ like telling the President that three
governors are competing to claim watermelon as their own
state vegetable - worrying, but not the week's no.1 storyline?
I exaggerate.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/watermelon-oklahoma-vegetable/>
This sort of nonsense crops up in real life, still.

[quote]

New York and New Jersey are slamming Connecticut lawmakers
for trying to make pizza the official state food

[/quote] - The Insider

https://www.insider.com/connecticut-pizza-official-state-food-reactions-2021-2

It passed. [H.B. No. 5656]

My gut instinct would be to inveigh against the proliferation
of state symbols. Then I consider what trouble they could
be getting up to in Hartford without these distractions.

I would have been with those supporting the CT lobster roll:
served warm with melted butter - no mayo!
--
Kevin R
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-06-06 04:14:06 UTC
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[snip]
Post by Robert Carnegie
Is this a great controversy in the U.S., or like one of those little
jokes in _The West Wing_ like telling the President that three
governors are competing to claim watermelon as their own
state vegetable - worrying, but not the week's no.1 storyline?
I exaggerate.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/watermelon-oklahoma-vegetable/>
This sort of nonsense crops up in real life, still.
[quote]
New York and New Jersey are slamming Connecticut lawmakers
for trying to make pizza the official state food
[/quote] - The Insider
https://www.insider.com/connecticut-pizza-official-state-food-reactions-2021-2
It passed. [H.B. No. 5656]
My gut instinct would be to inveigh against the proliferation
of state symbols. Then I consider what trouble they could
be getting up to in Hartford without these distractions.
served warm with melted butter - no mayo!
I would cheerfully eat lobster in any form, but it's too darned
expensive. Why could not each State have its own official form
of serving lobster?
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
J. Clarke
2021-06-06 10:14:09 UTC
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[snip]
Post by Robert Carnegie
Is this a great controversy in the U.S., or like one of those little
jokes in _The West Wing_ like telling the President that three
governors are competing to claim watermelon as their own
state vegetable - worrying, but not the week's no.1 storyline?
I exaggerate.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/watermelon-oklahoma-vegetable/>
This sort of nonsense crops up in real life, still.
[quote]
New York and New Jersey are slamming Connecticut lawmakers
for trying to make pizza the official state food
[/quote] - The Insider
https://www.insider.com/connecticut-pizza-official-state-food-reactions-2021-2
It passed. [H.B. No. 5656]
My gut instinct would be to inveigh against the proliferation
of state symbols. Then I consider what trouble they could
be getting up to in Hartford without these distractions.
served warm with melted butter - no mayo!
Why pizza? Don't get me wrong--I like pizza--but there isn't a
distinctive "CT Style" pizza that I am aware of, any unique
contribution to the art of pizza-making that occurred in CT, or any
significant role that pizza played in CT history. But I can't think
of any other food for which any of those conditions would be true, so
I guess it works as well as any.
Kevrob
2021-06-06 13:24:50 UTC
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[snip]
Post by Robert Carnegie
Is this a great controversy in the U.S., or like one of those little
jokes in _The West Wing_ like telling the President that three
governors are competing to claim watermelon as their own
state vegetable - worrying, but not the week's no.1 storyline?
I exaggerate.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/watermelon-oklahoma-vegetable/>
This sort of nonsense crops up in real life, still.
[quote]
New York and New Jersey are slamming Connecticut lawmakers
for trying to make pizza the official state food
[/quote] - The Insider
https://www.insider.com/connecticut-pizza-official-state-food-reactions-2021-2
It passed. [H.B. No. 5656]
My gut instinct would be to inveigh against the proliferation
of state symbols. Then I consider what trouble they could
be getting up to in Hartford without these distractions.
served warm with melted butter - no mayo!
Why pizza? Don't get me wrong--I like pizza--but there isn't a
distinctive "CT Style" pizza that I am aware of, any unique
contribution to the art of pizza-making that occurred in CT, or any
significant role that pizza played in CT history.
Not even the white clam pie?

https://roadfood.com/bests/white-clam-pizza/

Seafood pizza isn't unique to Connecticut, of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seafood_pizza
But I can't think of any other food for which any of those conditions
would be true, so I guess it works as well as any.
I've only lived in CT less than 15 years, so I'm no expert on the
state's cuisine. Nutmeggers don't even have their own clam
chowder! Even L'il Rhody has that! I'm considered a barbarian
for preferring the Manhattan version to that milk bath popular
in Massachusetts. :)
--
Kevin R
J. Clarke
2021-06-06 15:26:30 UTC
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Post by danny burstein
[snip]
Post by Robert Carnegie
Is this a great controversy in the U.S., or like one of those little
jokes in _The West Wing_ like telling the President that three
governors are competing to claim watermelon as their own
state vegetable - worrying, but not the week's no.1 storyline?
I exaggerate.
<https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/watermelon-oklahoma-vegetable/>
This sort of nonsense crops up in real life, still.
[quote]
New York and New Jersey are slamming Connecticut lawmakers
for trying to make pizza the official state food
[/quote] - The Insider
https://www.insider.com/connecticut-pizza-official-state-food-reactions-2021-2
It passed. [H.B. No. 5656]
My gut instinct would be to inveigh against the proliferation
of state symbols. Then I consider what trouble they could
be getting up to in Hartford without these distractions.
served warm with melted butter - no mayo!
Why pizza? Don't get me wrong--I like pizza--but there isn't a
distinctive "CT Style" pizza that I am aware of, any unique
contribution to the art of pizza-making that occurred in CT, or any
significant role that pizza played in CT history.
Not even the white clam pie?
https://roadfood.com/bests/white-clam-pizza/
Seafood pizza isn't unique to Connecticut, of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seafood_pizza
But I can't think of any other food for which any of those conditions
would be true, so I guess it works as well as any.
I've only lived in CT less than 15 years, so I'm no expert on the
state's cuisine. Nutmeggers don't even have their own clam
chowder! Even L'il Rhody has that! I'm considered a barbarian
for preferring the Manhattan version to that milk bath popular
in Massachusetts. :)
It might be that I was raised a barbarian but I have never understood
the appeal of clams.
Kevrob
2021-06-06 17:41:12 UTC
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Post by J. Clarke
Post by Kevrob
I've only lived in CT less than 15 years, so I'm no expert on the
state's cuisine. Nutmeggers don't even have their own clam
chowder! Even L'il Rhody has that! I'm considered a barbarian
for preferring the Manhattan version to that milk bath popular
in Massachusetts. :)
It might be that I was raised a barbarian but I have never understood
the appeal of clams.
Having grown up on Long Island's Great South Bay, not far from
where the Doxsee company was founded. I had high school buddies
who, for a summer job, got a rake, tongs. screens and a clamming
license and went out on the bay. An activity in my family at low
tide was digging quahogs out of the mud where the flats ended and
the harbor channel started. We'd surprise Mom with our treasure,
and she'd gamely work chowder or baked clams into our summer
menu. Unless one were allergic or keeping kosher, not eating shellfish
was just _weird_ where I grew up. Where cost is no object, I'd go with
scallops or oysters, but clams, especially "free" ones, were fine with
me. Peconic Bay scallop prices have skyrocketed, and in recent years
the crop has died off due to unusually high seasonal temperatures.
Scientists are trying to help the little morsels make a comeback:

https://fisherynation.com/archives/38707
--
Kevin R
J. Clarke
2021-05-30 21:55:11 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
I don't know how much of it's going to go into Siberia. China seems
to have two objectives--one is to improve transportation within Asia
to create a bigger huger market, and the other to provide high volume
inexpensive transport to their major non-Asian markets.

Canada doesn't seem to be averse to the whole idea--they've joined the
Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank which was formed to pay for it
all.

I don't think that the purpose of it is to relocate population--it's
to move goods, although fast human transportation would likely be a
side effect.
William Hyde
2021-05-30 22:44:48 UTC
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[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps
[IFLScience]
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
China currently has one of the most expansive and impressive high-speed rail
networks on Earth, and they aren't showing signs of slowing. As their
network
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
reaches the far corners of their nation, Beijing could be setting its
eyes on
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by danny burstein
Post by danny burstein
what lies beyond - far, far beyond.
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska,
across the
Post by danny burstein
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
Is this /before/ or /after/ they conquer the World?
It would have to be 'after', which maps rather closely to
'never'.
FWIW, Russia is signatory to the Belt And Road initiative and it is
planned that substantial portions will be into and through Russia.
Okay; this means that there may arise opportunities for
inhabitants of Siberia to escape into China. And vice versa.
I still don't expect either the US or Canada to be enthusiastic
about the idea. Even the inhabitants of the "State of Jefferson"
(southern counties of Oregon, northern counties of California,
who for decades have wanted to form their own rural, very
conservative State, and are now considering seceding and merging
with Idaho*) would not be enthusiastic about moving either to
Russia or to China.
*(Which isn't going to happen, because the blue majorities of
both Oregon and California would override them, have overridden
them many times. Which is what they're complaining about. I'm
not sure what the red majority of Idaho would think about it.)
I don't know how much of it's going to go into Siberia. China seems
to have two objectives--one is to improve transportation within Asia
to create a bigger huger market, and the other to provide high volume
inexpensive transport to their major non-Asian markets.
Canada doesn't seem to be averse to the whole idea--they've joined the
Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank which was formed to pay for it
all.
China's popularity in Canada has plummeted in recent years, to an extent I don't think they grasp.

Even university scientists are being told they cannot use grant money on projects involving mainland Chinese colleagues.

William Hyde
Jack Bohn
2021-05-31 14:34:16 UTC
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Post by danny burstein
China Wants To Build An 8,000-Mile Underwater Train Line To The USA
According to reports, China wishes to build a high-speed, 13,000-kilometer
(8,078-mile) train that travels from mainland China, up through Siberia in
Eastern Russia, under the sea through the Bering Strait into Alaska, across the
rocky peaks of Canada's Yukon and British Columbia, and into the USA. Once
constructed, they have could further extend their international bullet train
into every corner of the US.
=======
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/china-wants-to-build-an-8000mile-underwater-train-line-to-the-usa/
At the risk of bringing up another movie: "Battle Beneath the Earth" (1967).
Of course, in that story, China did it for Communist reasons, which leaves me wondering who, in the infinite wisdom of fifty years from now, will will mock today's stories of things China might be doing for commercial reasons.
--
-Jack
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