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Shadows of Hyperion (Arenaverse book 4) now available for order!
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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2021-05-26 01:25:49 UTC
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Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as you will. :)

Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about to the exact time
I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is now available,
from Ring of Fire press!

https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095PTXJV8
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2021-05-26 03:29:04 UTC
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Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as you will. :)
Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about to the exact time
I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is now available,
from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095PTXJV8
Well, you certainly won't have any more problems about people like me not
seeing the anime influence!

clicky-clicky..
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Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-05-26 18:27:33 UTC
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    Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as
you will. :)
    Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about
to the exact
time I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is
now available, from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095P
TXJV8
I ordered two years ago !
Downloaded my copy this morning. It's up next as soon as I finished
the latest from Bujold.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Lynn McGuire
2021-05-26 19:11:23 UTC
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    Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as
you will. :)
    Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about
to the exact
time I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is
now available, from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095P
TXJV8
I ordered two years ago !
Downloaded my copy this morning. It's up next as soon as I finished
the latest from Bujold.
I've got 500+ books in front of mine !

Lynn
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-05-26 20:04:03 UTC
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    Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't,
as you will. :)
    Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just
about to the exact
time I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is
now available, from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B09
5P TXJV8
I ordered two years ago !
Downloaded my copy this morning. It's up next as soon as I
finished the latest from Bujold.
I've got 500+ books in front of mine !
That's because you read a lot of crap. I'm far more discerning.

"The man was *ebmezzling demons*?"
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Robert Woodward
2021-05-27 04:46:21 UTC
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Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Downloaded my copy this morning. It's up next as soon as I
finished the latest from Bujold.
I've got 500+ books in front of mine !
That's because you read a lot of crap. I'm far more discerning.
"The man was *ebmezzling demons*?"
Note that Terry is quoting from the newest Bujold title (it was supposed
to be another Penric and Desdemona novella, but it grew into full novel
size). Have you reached the "Wroth" scene yet?
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward ***@drizzle.com
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-05-27 16:18:43 UTC
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On 5/26/2021 1:27 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Downloaded my copy this morning. It's up next as soon as I
finished the latest from Bujold.
I've got 500+ books in front of mine !
That's because you read a lot of crap. I'm far more discerning.
"The man was *ebmezzling demons*?"
Note that Terry is quoting from the newest Bujold title (it was
supposed to be another Penric and Desdemona novella, but it grew
into full novel size). Have you reached the "Wroth" scene yet?
Yeah, a little past that. About 3/4 of the way through.

So far, it's up to her usual standards. Which are pretty high.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Andrew McDowell
2021-05-26 19:39:57 UTC
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Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as
you will. :)
Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about
to the exact
time I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is
now available, from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095P
TXJV8
I ordered two years ago !
Downloaded my copy this morning. It's up next as soon as I finished
the latest from Bujold.
--
Terry Austin
Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
On my "to read" list, which is my defense against accumulating a large pile of books I have bought but not read.
Magewolf
2021-05-26 21:01:12 UTC
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Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as you will. :)
Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about to the
exact time
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is now available,
from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095PTXJV8
It looks like none of the other books are linked to the new one. It also
shows as book one of one and the Grand Central Arena link only has it as
well. I do not know if there is anything you can do about that but it
could be confusing.
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2021-05-26 23:35:22 UTC
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Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as you will. :)
Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about to the
exact time
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is now available,
from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095PTXJV8
It looks like none of the other books are linked to the new one. It also
shows as book one of one and the Grand Central Arena link only has it as
well. I do not know if there is anything you can do about that but it
could be confusing.
I'll see if anything can be done, but the problem is very likely that
books 1-3 are Baen and Book 4 is Ring of Fire Press.
Robert Woodward
2021-05-27 04:51:57 UTC
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Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as you will. :)
Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about to the
exact time
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is now available,
from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095PTXJV8
It looks like none of the other books are linked to the new one. It also
shows as book one of one and the Grand Central Arena link only has it as
well. I do not know if there is anything you can do about that but it
could be confusing.
I'll see if anything can be done, but the problem is very likely that
books 1-3 are Baen and Book 4 is Ring of Fire Press.
I downloaded the HTML version, but all I see are a bunch of disconnected
files. How am I supposed to read them (without explicitly opening each
file via the browser file command)?
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
—-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward ***@drizzle.com
Magewolf
2021-05-27 21:01:29 UTC
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Forgive my self-serving spam, everyone. Or don't, as you will. :)
Two years after the Kickstarter completed, just about to the
exact time
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
I promised, the fourth book in the Arenaverse series is now available,
from Ring of Fire press!
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Hyperion-Ryk-Spoor-ebook/dp/B095PTXJV8
It looks like none of the other books are linked to the new one. It
also shows as book one of one and the Grand Central Arena link only has
it as well. I do not know if there is anything you can do about that
but it could be confusing.
I'll see if anything can be done, but the problem is very likely that
books 1-3 are Baen and Book 4 is Ring of Fire Press.
I thought that might be the problem but I have seen books on Amazon that
linked series that went across publishers so it seems possibles. But
that could have come about because of major publishers having an easier
time getting in touch with an actual person at Amazon.

And I forgot to say that I have it preordered (Kickstarter did not like
my credit card for some reason so I missed that) and am looking forward
to it.
Bo Lindbergh
2021-05-29 15:11:12 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.


/Bo Lindbergh
J. Clarke
2021-05-29 17:28:04 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
?? Amazon shows "2 new" in stock for $16.99 and the ebook available
starting Wednesday, preorder for $5.99
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-29 18:15:53 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
?? Amazon shows "2 new" in stock for $16.99 and the ebook available
starting Wednesday, preorder for $5.99
The question then becomes, Can you buy anything from Amazon with
cash? I was under the impression that they are credit-or-debit-
card-specific.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Dimensional Traveler
2021-05-29 19:31:32 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
?? Amazon shows "2 new" in stock for $16.99 and the ebook available
starting Wednesday, preorder for $5.99
The question then becomes, Can you buy anything from Amazon with
cash? I was under the impression that they are credit-or-debit-
card-specific.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=15399401
"If you don't have a credit card, you can pay for products with an
ACH-enabled U.S. checking account."

As for the use of physical bills and coins, can you buy _anything_ on
the internet using those?
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Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-29 20:09:50 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by J. Clarke
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
?? Amazon shows "2 new" in stock for $16.99 and the ebook available
starting Wednesday, preorder for $5.99
The question then becomes, Can you buy anything from Amazon with
cash? I was under the impression that they are credit-or-debit-
card-specific.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=15399401
"If you don't have a credit card, you can pay for products with an
ACH-enabled U.S. checking account."
As for the use of physical bills and coins, can you buy _anything_ on
the internet using those?
I would be inclined to say not, but I haven't researched the
topic.

Having paid off ALL our credit card (after a couple of decades),
Hal now pays off its balance every month, usually in double-digit
amounts. Because his income (Social Security, rent from a house
we own, a couple of pensions) is much greater than mine (Social
Security, enough to pay my medical insurance), if I need to buy
something necessary for myself, he tells me to transfer the needed
amount from his checking account to mine and then charge it on
my debit card. This is one of the ways he keeps the monthly
charge on the credit card in the double digits.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
J. Clarke
2021-05-29 20:44:19 UTC
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Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by J. Clarke
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
?? Amazon shows "2 new" in stock for $16.99 and the ebook available
starting Wednesday, preorder for $5.99
The question then becomes, Can you buy anything from Amazon with
cash? I was under the impression that they are credit-or-debit-
card-specific.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=15399401
"If you don't have a credit card, you can pay for products with an
ACH-enabled U.S. checking account."
As for the use of physical bills and coins, can you buy _anything_ on
the internet using those?
I would be inclined to say not, but I haven't researched the
topic.
Having paid off ALL our credit card (after a couple of decades),
Hal now pays off its balance every month, usually in double-digit
amounts. Because his income (Social Security, rent from a house
we own, a couple of pensions) is much greater than mine (Social
Security, enough to pay my medical insurance), if I need to buy
something necessary for myself, he tells me to transfer the needed
amount from his checking account to mine and then charge it on
my debit card. This is one of the ways he keeps the monthly
charge on the credit card in the double digits.
If the requirement is for paper money, Barnes & Noble lists it (or
appears to--the cover art they show doesn't match the
title)--presumably it can be ordered in-store and paid for with paper
money.
Magewolf
2021-05-30 00:00:12 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
?? Amazon shows "2 new" in stock for $16.99 and the ebook available
starting Wednesday, preorder for $5.99
The question then becomes, Can you buy anything from Amazon with cash?
I was under the impression that they are credit-or-debit-
card-specific.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=15399401 "If
you don't have a credit card, you can pay for products with an
ACH-enabled U.S. checking account."
As for the use of physical bills and coins, can you buy _anything_ on
the internet using those?
You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the site with
them. And you used to be able to add cash to you paypal account at some
stores.
Bo Lindbergh
2021-05-30 03:09:30 UTC
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You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the site with
them.
Not in these parts, you can't.

iTunes gift cards are available in just about every supermarket, which is how
I bought e.g. Lawrence Watt-Evans's latest Tom Derringer book (enjoyable,
recommended). But whatever publisher Sea Wasp uses these days doesn't seem
to like Apple.


/Bo Lindbergh
J. Clarke
2021-05-30 07:56:32 UTC
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Post by Magewolf
You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the site with
them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
iTunes gift cards are available in just about every supermarket, which is how
I bought e.g. Lawrence Watt-Evans's latest Tom Derringer book (enjoyable,
recommended). But whatever publisher Sea Wasp uses these days doesn't seem
to like Apple.
<https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=13582391011> is an incomplete
and not necessarily current list of sellers of Amazon gift cards.

You can also buy a prepaid Visa Debit card at the Post Office or most
retailers (they sometimes sell Amazon gift cards as well).
Ninapenda Jibini
2021-05-30 16:36:52 UTC
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You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the
site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national retail
chains of any kind.

Around here, any retailer with a recognizable name has a whole rack
of gift card for all sorts of online stores, especially Amazon, and
for the most part *only* accept cash for them because of the rampant
fraud (buy a gift card with a stolen credit card, and sell it on one
of several web sites that exist specifically for the purpose, like
Card Cash. You never get full values, of course, but who cares when
someone eelse paid for it?)
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 17:56:33 UTC
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You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the
site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national retail
chains of any kind.
Around here, any retailer with a recognizable name has a whole rack
of gift card for all sorts of online stores, especially Amazon, and
for the most part *only* accept cash for them because of the rampant
fraud (buy a gift card with a stolen credit card, and sell it on one
of several web sites that exist specifically for the purpose, like
Card Cash. You never get full values, of course, but who cares when
someone eelse paid for it?)
You may be right. I don't recall having seen such things for
sale, but I don't get around much these days.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Ninapenda Jibini
2021-05-30 19:22:40 UTC
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You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on
the site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national retail
chains of any kind.
Around here, any retailer with a recognizable name has a whole
rack of gift card for all sorts of online stores, especially
Amazon, and for the most part *only* accept cash for them
because of the rampant fraud (buy a gift card with a stolen
credit card, and sell it on one of several web sites that exist
specifically for the purpose, like Card Cash. You never get full
values, of course, but who cares when someone eelse paid for
it?)
You may be right. I don't recall having seen such things for
sale, but I don't get around much these days.
They're usually on a rack somewhere near the cash registers. The
Walgrees I go to has a 2' x 5' rack full of nothning but. So does
the grocery store across the street. (And most of the fast food
places I've been in in recent years have a very strict policy of
cash only on gift cards, often posted at the counter.)
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Bo Lindbergh
2021-06-01 12:49:18 UTC
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You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the
site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national retail
chains of any kind.
What are you talking about? Amazon is a foreign company, not a national one.


/Bo Lindbergh
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-06-01 14:10:53 UTC
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Post by Magewolf
You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the
site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national retail
chains of any kind.
What are you talking about? Amazon is a foreign company, not a national one.
/Bo Lindbergh
Terry.... Bo lives in Sweden.

That said, it's not impossible that somewhere in Sweden there are
places where you can buy Amazon (or some other kind) gift cards.
But maybe there aren't.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-06-01 15:28:33 UTC
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Post by Magewolf
You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on
the site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national
retail chains of any kind.
What are you talking about? Amazon is a foreign company, not a national one.
/Bo Lindbergh
Terry.... Bo lives in Sweden.
That said, it's not impossible that somewhere in Sweden there
are places where you can buy Amazon (or some other kind) gift
cards. But maybe there aren't.
It's hard to imagine that Amazon doesn't have gift cards available
for every country they do business in, but it's entirely possible
they can't be easily bought in local brick & mortar stores like in
the US.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-06-01 15:46:09 UTC
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Post by Magewolf
You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on
the site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national
retail chains of any kind.
What are you talking about? Amazon is a foreign company, not a national one.
/Bo Lindbergh
Terry.... Bo lives in Sweden.
That said, it's not impossible that somewhere in Sweden there
are places where you can buy Amazon (or some other kind) gift
cards. But maybe there aren't.
It's hard to imagine that Amazon doesn't have gift cards available
for every country they do business in, but it's entirely possible
they can't be easily bought in local brick & mortar stores like in
the US.
Many things are possible.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Paul S Person
2021-06-01 16:26:16 UTC
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Post by Magewolf
You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on the
site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national retail
chains of any kind.
What are you talking about? Amazon is a foreign company, not a national one.
/Bo Lindbergh
Terry.... Bo lives in Sweden.
That said, it's not impossible that somewhere in Sweden there are
places where you can buy Amazon (or some other kind) gift cards.
But maybe there aren't.
Perhaps the very /concept/ of "gift card" is unknown in Sweden, who
can say?
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-06-01 16:36:36 UTC
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Post by Magewolf
You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything
on the site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national
retail chains of any kind.
What are you talking about? Amazon is a foreign company, not a national one.
/Bo Lindbergh
Terry.... Bo lives in Sweden.
That said, it's not impossible that somewhere in Sweden there
are places where you can buy Amazon (or some other kind) gift
cards. But maybe there aren't.
Perhaps the very /concept/ of "gift card" is unknown in Sweden,
who can say?
Google says you are, as usual, full of shit.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-06-01 15:23:24 UTC
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You can buy Amazon gift cards with cash and buy anything on
the site with them.
Not in these parts, you can't.
You live in a very odd place, with basically no national retail
chains of any kind.
What are you talking about? Amazon is a foreign company, not a national one.
Perhaps it is different where you live, but in the US, nearly all
major brick & mortar retailers have a whole rack of gift cards for a
number of online retailers, and they prefer, if not require, cash to
buy them.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2021-05-29 21:35:54 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
How do you mean that? If you mean "isn't going to be on store shelves",
yeah, none of mine except (working title) Fenrir are likely to be on
shelves. Baen's not publishing me any more.
Lynn McGuire
2021-06-01 19:05:56 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
    How do you mean that? If you mean "isn't going to be on store
shelves", yeah, none of mine except (working title) Fenrir are likely to
be on shelves. Baen's not publishing me any more.
Dude, I am sorry that Baen is not publishing you anymore. Is Baen
dropping very many authors ?

Lynn
a425couple
2021-06-02 15:24:25 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
    How do you mean that? If you mean "isn't going to be on store
shelves", yeah, none of mine except (working title) Fenrir are likely to
be on shelves. Baen's not publishing me any more.
Bummer!
How many copies (ink on paper & bound) of
Boundry & Threshold got printed and sold?
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2021-06-03 01:00:42 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
     How do you mean that? If you mean "isn't going to be on store
shelves", yeah, none of mine except (working title) Fenrir are likely
to be on shelves. Baen's not publishing me any more.
Bummer!
How many copies (ink on paper & bound) of
Boundry & Threshold got printed and sold?
Quite a few. They're still available. But how I sold with "Eric Flint"
as the other name on the cover doesn't relate too well to how I sold
with just MY name on the cover. My best-selling SOLO work is Grand
Central Arena. Surprisingly, my epic fantasy trilogy sold TERRIBLY
(usually fantasy outsells SF). Princess Holy Aura had great sell-through
but they didn't print very many.
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2021-05-29 21:41:27 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Dimensional Traveler
2021-05-29 22:53:23 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
    And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
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Robert Carnegie
2021-05-29 23:43:43 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 02:40:54 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Gary R. Schmidt
2021-05-30 03:52:38 UTC
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Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.

OBSF: Wasn't there a Ballard short which involved people living on a
roundabout??

And I first heard a variation of that back in the 1960s or 1970s.

Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Gary R. Schmidt
2021-05-30 04:39:44 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout.  He converted
it into a catapult.  My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)."  It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in.  Care to explain?
Or, for the mundane, for "roundabout" read "carousel".

Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 05:06:19 UTC
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Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout.  He converted
it into a catapult.  My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)."  It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in.  Care to explain?
Or, for the mundane, for "roundabout" read "carousel".
Do you mean a carousel as in a merry-go-round, where children
ride artificial ponies up and down and around?
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
pete...@gmail.com
2021-05-30 05:18:22 UTC
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Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Or, for the mundane, for "roundabout" read "carousel".
Do you mean a carousel as in a merry-go-round, where children
ride artificial ponies up and down and around?
Could someone please explain what definition of 'roundabout' is
an inhabital place or structure?

Pt
Gary R. Schmidt
2021-05-30 06:34:41 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
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Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Or, for the mundane, for "roundabout" read "carousel".
Do you mean a carousel as in a merry-go-round, where children
ride artificial ponies up and down and around?
Could someone please explain what definition of 'roundabout' is
an inhabital place or structure?
It's a joke, Joyce.

Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 14:08:45 UTC
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Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Or, for the mundane, for "roundabout" read "carousel".
Do you mean a carousel as in a merry-go-round, where children
ride artificial ponies up and down and around?
Could someone please explain what definition of 'roundabout' is
an inhabital place or structure?
That's what I'd like to know.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Robert Carnegie
2021-05-30 14:57:52 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Or, for the mundane, for "roundabout" read "carousel".
Do you mean a carousel as in a merry-go-round, where children
ride artificial ponies up and down and around?
Should I say first that I am not seriously
claiming this?

The middle part may be a little hut although
I suppose it probably has machinery in.
But if you put boards on all round the outside,
the whole thing could be occupied. Probably
without the horses, too.

A loud and lively song released in 2004 as
"Lola's Theme" got a video where the vocal artist
(who isn't Lola, it doesn't matter) seems to be shown
performing it in the operator's cubicle of a ride that
goes round and round her, with the machinery
underneath I think. Actually a "Waltzer" according to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola%27s_Theme>
in case it does matter), so, distinct from a carousel
or "roundabout".
Jay E. Morris
2021-06-02 15:16:47 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout.  He converted
it into a catapult.  My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)."  It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in.  Care to explain?
Or, for the mundane, for "roundabout" read "carousel".
Do you mean a carousel as in a merry-go-round, where children
ride artificial ponies up and down and around?
Evidently. From the Oxford:
British
a large revolving device in a playground, for children to ride on; a
merry-go-round.
Jaimie Vandenbergh
2021-05-30 08:44:52 UTC
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Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
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Experience comes from bad judgement.
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 14:12:11 UTC
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?

A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Dimensional Traveler
2021-05-30 16:36:34 UTC
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Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
In my post it was meant to indicate a "non-direct" or "something
involving unnecessary steps or intermediate parties" procedure or system.
--
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Angrily, angrily, angrily, the net's a nut's scream.
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 17:57:51 UTC
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Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring
of Fire with
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way
compared
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
In my post it was meant to indicate a "non-direct" or "something
involving unnecessary steps or intermediate parties" procedure or system.
Oh.

Hard to build (or adapt) such an intangible into a tangible
shelter for tangible humans and their possessions.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Ninapenda Jibini
2021-05-30 19:29:21 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with
cash. This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a
book. It's a roundabout method rather than buying
through Amazon or Ring
of Fire with
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the
roundabout way
compared
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your
neighbor's address for delivery: that thing runs pretty
fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave
me no example of anything that could be converted into
something anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic
circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist
style, playing on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
In my post it was meant to indicate a "non-direct" or "something
involving unnecessary steps or intermediate parties" procedure
or system.
Oh.
Hard to build (or adapt) such an intangible into a tangible
shelter for tangible humans and their possessions.
That would be what makes it a joke.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Ninapenda Jibini
2021-05-30 16:37:41 UTC
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Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with
cash. This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a
book. It's a roundabout method rather than buying
through Amazon or Ring of Fire with a credit or debit
card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the
roundabout way compared to buying the book directly from
the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me
no example of anything that could be converted into
something anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to
work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style,
playing on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
Or, at least, no the joke that was intended.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Jaimie Vandenbergh
2021-05-30 18:07:38 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.



Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"If you can't make fun of it, it's probably not worth taking seriously"
-- http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson494.html
Andrew McDowell
2021-05-30 19:22:23 UTC
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Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"If you can't make fun of it, it's probably not worth taking seriously"
-- http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson494.html
My impression is the roundabouts require a certain minimal knowledge on the part of both drivers and road planners, and this information does not seem to have crossed the atlantic (and a web search suggests that traffic circle is not a good translation, as priorities are different). A web search finds a house on a roundbout - Loading Image... I live not far from the "Magic Roundabout" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_%28Swindon%29 Supposedly if I had to drive through it regularly I would get used to it pretty quickly, but happily I don't (and the design does not seem to have caught on in the UK)
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2021-05-30 19:34:13 UTC
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Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with
cash. This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a
book. It's
a
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Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
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roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or
Ring of F
ire with
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Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
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a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the
roundabout way co
mpared
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Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
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to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me
no example of anything that could be converted into
something anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout"
to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic
circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of
those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist
style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with
other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic
flow without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given
your normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never
collected that particular "separated by a common language"
item.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"If you can't make fun of it, it's probably not worth taking
seriously"
-- http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson494.html
My impression is the roundabouts require a certain minimal
knowledge on the part of both drivers and road planners, and
this information does not seem to have crossed the atlantic (and
a web search suggests that traffic circle is not a good
translation, as priorities are different). A web search finds a
house on a roundbout -
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/John_K%C3%B6r
meling_-_Draaiend_huis_-_Tilburg.jpg I live not far from the
"Magic Roundabout" -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_%28Swindon%29
Supposedly if I had to drive through it regularly I would get
used to it pretty quickly, but happily I don't (and the design
does not seem to have caught on in the UK)
This US resistance to roundabouts is historical, based on the older
style traffic circle actually causing more accidents. It's not
based on current roundabout design, which does seem to reduce
accidents when traffic is heavy.

(Traffic circles do not require incoming traffic to yield to cars
already in the circle, nor slower speeds, resulting in high speed
crashes. They also have cars entering basically perpendicular to
the flow of traffic, where roundabouts have curved lanes to enter.
And circles allow lane changes, where roundabouts don't. I have no
doubt there are number exceptions to all those rules for both, but
those are the *design* differences, and when the designs are
followed, roundabouts are safer and handle more traffic than any
traditional intersection - though they take more real estate, which
is an issue in some places, like southern California, where real
estate is so expensive, in part because the people you try to take
it from have enough money for more lawyers than the government.)
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
pete...@gmail.com
2021-05-30 22:39:28 UTC
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On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"If you can't make fun of it, it's probably not worth taking seriously"
-- http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson494.html
My impression is the roundabouts require a certain minimal knowledge on the part of both drivers and road planners, and this information does not seem to have crossed the atlantic (and a web search suggests that traffic circle is not a good translation, as priorities are different). A web search finds a house on a roundbout - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/John_K%C3%B6rmeling_-_Draaiend_huis_-_Tilburg.jpg I live not far from the "Magic Roundabout" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_%28Swindon%29 Supposedly if I had to drive through it regularly I would get used to it pretty quickly, but happily I don't (and the design does not seem to have caught on in the UK)
They're pretty common in Massachusetts, where they are called 'rotaries'. Unlike many
Americans, I'm generally in favor of them.

Pt
J. Clarke
2021-05-30 23:10:11 UTC
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On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"If you can't make fun of it, it's probably not worth taking seriously"
-- http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson494.html
My impression is the roundabouts require a certain minimal knowledge on the part of both drivers and road planners, and this information does not seem to have crossed the atlantic (and a web search suggests that traffic circle is not a good translation, as priorities are different). A web search finds a house on a roundbout - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/John_K%C3%B6rmeling_-_Draaiend_huis_-_Tilburg.jpg I live not far from the "Magic Roundabout" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_%28Swindon%29 Supposedly if I had to drive through it regularly I would get used to it pretty quickly, but happily I don't (and the design does not seem to have caught on in the UK)
They're pretty common in Massachusetts, where they are called 'rotaries'. Unlike many
Americans, I'm generally in favor of them.
You have not experienced the Longmeadow rotary during rush hour.
Ninapenda Jibini
2021-05-30 19:28:57 UTC
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Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles".
Erroneously, as they are not the same thing. Traffic circles, which
predate roundabouts, were a good idea that turned out bad - they
actually increase accident rates for a variety of reasons.

http://www.roundaboutresources.org/roundabout-vs.-traffic-circle.html
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-30 20:11:11 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring
of Fire with
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way
compared
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles".
Or, more often (for clarity's sake), "traffic circles."
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
I had, in fact, but the concept of converting one (however
designated) into a dwelling escaped me.
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Robert Carnegie
2021-05-31 00:19:37 UTC
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On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring
of Fire with
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way
compared
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles".
Or, more often (for clarity's sake), "traffic circles."
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
I had, in fact, but the concept of converting one (however
designated) into a dwelling escaped me.
"In a hole in the road there lived a nitwit."

In fact this one is not a real house:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draaiend_Huis_(kunstwerk)&prev=search&pto=aue

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/the-netherlands/tilburg/attractions/draaiend-huis/a/poi-sig/1596325/1315729

It runs around the roundabout like a poorly maintained
clock, but it does look different every day.

Wikipedia is fussy about distinctions between
the "traffic circle" and "modern roundabout",
including the rule for traffic entering the junction
to yield to vehicles that are traversing it.

The "modern" description seems to exclude
The Whirlies in East Kilbride which you will find
next to "Gullion Park" on the map, a multi-lane
starfish thing which, having entered, spirals you
out to an appropriate exit, you hope. Searching
for "The Whirlies" online is liable to place you at a
McDonalds a short way north.
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-05-31 14:33:07 UTC
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On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
On Saturday, 29 May 2021 at 23:53:24 UTC+1, Dimensional
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring
of Fire with
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way
compared
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles".
Or, more often (for clarity's sake), "traffic circles."
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
I had, in fact, but the concept of converting one (however
designated) into a dwelling escaped me.
"In a hole in the road there lived a nitwit."
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draaiend_Huis_(kunstwerk)&prev=search&pto=aue
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/the-netherlands/tilburg/attractions/draaiend-huis/a/poi-sig/1596325/1315729
It runs around the roundabout like a poorly maintained
clock, but it does look different every day.
Wikipedia is fussy about distinctions between
the "traffic circle" and "modern roundabout",
including the rule for traffic entering the junction
to yield to vehicles that are traversing it.
The "modern" description seems to exclude
The Whirlies in East Kilbride which you will find
next to "Gullion Park" on the map, a multi-lane
starfish thing which, having entered, spirals you
out to an appropriate exit, you hope. Searching
for "The Whirlies" online is liable to place you at a
McDonalds a short way north.
Sounds like the Stack in Los Angeles. Since I don't drive, I
don't know how many interlacing highways pass through (over,
under) it. I asked Hal: "Four, I think."
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
Robert Carnegie
2021-05-31 16:13:14 UTC
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Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring
of Fire with
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way
compared
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles".
Or, more often (for clarity's sake), "traffic circles."
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
I had, in fact, but the concept of converting one (however
designated) into a dwelling escaped me.
"In a hole in the road there lived a nitwit."
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draaiend_Huis_(kunstwerk)&prev=search&pto=aue
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/the-netherlands/tilburg/attractions/draaiend-huis/a/poi-sig/1596325/1315729
It runs around the roundabout like a poorly maintained
clock, but it does look different every day.
Wikipedia is fussy about distinctions between
the "traffic circle" and "modern roundabout",
including the rule for traffic entering the junction
to yield to vehicles that are traversing it.
The "modern" description seems to exclude
The Whirlies in East Kilbride which you will find
next to "Gullion Park" on the map, a multi-lane
starfish thing which, having entered, spirals you
out to an appropriate exit, you hope. Searching
for "The Whirlies" online is liable to place you at a
McDonalds a short way north.
Sounds like the Stack in Los Angeles. Since I don't drive, I
don't know how many interlacing highways pass through (over,
under) it. I asked Hal: "Four, I think."
Oh, that's much more complicated - although arguably
it's just a crossroads of U.S. Route 101 and State Route 110,
but each of those has separate multi-lane left and right
carriageways. It adds up to four storeys. Local destinations
also are accessible, particularly if you misjudge one of the
turns above ground level.

The Whirlies is only two dimensional and basically a single
vortex but it is decorated with strange alien silver sculpture
balls, or possibly magnified copies of a kitchen device for
slicing apples and occasionally fingers.

Charing Cross in Glasgow is a little complicated and
has the aspect of separate road lanes leading downwards,
upwards, and under and over each other, although the full
rollercoaster effect of turning round and meeting your
stomach passing the opposite direction usually isn't
achieved.
Lawrence Watt-Evans
2021-05-30 22:44:32 UTC
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Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 15:12:11 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
In parts of the U.S. they're called "traffic circles," but where I
grew up they were "rotaries," and I think they are where I live now,
too.
--
My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
My latest novel is Tom Derringer & the Steam-Powered Saurians.
Paul S Person
2021-05-31 16:04:26 UTC
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Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 15:12:11 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist style, playing
on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with other roads
directly abutting it, in order to facilitate smoothish traffic flow
without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
"Traffic circles".

In Seattle, BTW, they are mostly used to slow cars down on the side
streets by forcing them into going around the center. Since these are
side streets, the cars aren't supposed to be going all that fast
anyway.

And then they began cutting down the car lanes on the arterials by
converting them into bike lanes, forcing traffic off the arterials
onto the side streets ...

City planning. Clearly an oxymoron.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Ninapenda Jibini
2021-06-01 00:07:44 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Watt-Evans
On 30 May 2021 18:07:38 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 15:12:11 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
In article
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with
cash. This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a
book. It's a roundabout method rather than buying
through Amazon or Ring of Fire with a credit or debit
card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the
roundabout way compared to buying the book directly
from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your
neighbor's address for delivery: that thing runs pretty
fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave
me no example of anything that could be converted into
something anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout"
to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic
circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of
those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist
style, playing on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with
other roads directly abutting it, in order to facilitate
smoothish traffic flow without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given
your normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never
collected that particular "separated by a common language" item.
"Traffic circles".
In Seattle, BTW, they are mostly used to slow cars down on the
side streets by forcing them into going around the center. Since
these are side streets, the cars aren't supposed to be going all
that fast anyway.
And then they began cutting down the car lanes on the arterials
by converting them into bike lanes, forcing traffic off the
arterials onto the side streets ...
City planning. Clearly an oxymoron.
Only if you assume that the goal is to make people's lives easier.
Traffic engineer has been a favorite target for social engineers
for decades. In the case of Seattle, it's very nearly a given that
their specific, conscious goal was to discourage people from owning
personal vehicles, regardless of how much they damage people's
lives in the process.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Paul S Person
2021-06-01 16:38:21 UTC
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Post by Ninapenda Jibini
Post by Lawrence Watt-Evans
On 30 May 2021 18:07:38 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 15:12:11 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
In article
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with
cash. This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a
book. It's a roundabout method rather than buying
through Amazon or Ring of Fire with a credit or debit
card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the
roundabout way compared to buying the book directly
from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your
neighbor's address for delivery: that thing runs pretty
fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave
me no example of anything that could be converted into
something anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references to
converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic
circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of
those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist
style, playing on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with
other roads directly abutting it, in order to facilitate
smoothish traffic flow without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given
your normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never
collected that particular "separated by a common language" item.
"Traffic circles".
In Seattle, BTW, they are mostly used to slow cars down on the
side streets by forcing them into going around the center. Since
these are side streets, the cars aren't supposed to be going all
that fast anyway.
And then they began cutting down the car lanes on the arterials
by converting them into bike lanes, forcing traffic off the
arterials onto the side streets ...
City planning. Clearly an oxymoron.
Only if you assume that the goal is to make people's lives easier.
Traffic engineer has been a favorite target for social engineers
for decades. In the case of Seattle, it's very nearly a given that
their specific, conscious goal was to discourage people from owning
personal vehicles, regardless of how much they damage people's
lives in the process.
That does seem to be the consensus of opinion of a large number of
Seattleites -- both those in favor (bicycle riders) and those opposed
(car drivers).

And yet the repaving of 35th Ave NE a few years back ended up /not/
adding bicycle lanes, apparently because the businesses wanted to keep
their customers by keeping their streetside parking.

The bicyclists were referred to side streets and a major arterial
several blocks over that had bike lanes. None of the articles I read
pointed out that the first few blocks east of 35th Ave NE are located
on a very steep hillside, rather hard to pedal up. The major street is
in the valley east of the hill.

Of course, with electric bikes, the hills are (apparently) ... less
formidable than they used to be. These bikes are, of course, more
stealable because they cost more to buy and, of necessity, are left
outside a lot.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-06-01 18:19:07 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
On Tue, 01 Jun 2021 00:07:44 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
Post by Ninapenda Jibini
Post by Lawrence Watt-Evans
On 30 May 2021 18:07:38 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 15:12:11 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J
Post by Dorothy J Heydt
Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On 30 May 2021 at 05:41:27 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy
In article
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
In article
On Saturday, 29 May 2021 at 23:53:24 UTC+1,
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought
with cash. This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send
a book. It's a roundabout method rather than buying
through Amazon or Ring of Fire with a credit or
debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the
roundabout way compared to buying the book directly
from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your
neighbor's address for delivery: that thing runs
pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave
me no example of anything that could be converted into
something anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
I googled that exact phrase, and got lots of references
to converting intersections to roundabouts (aka traffic
circles)
Are you seriously telling me Ryk is living on one of
those??
Robert's post was a mild joke in the English surrealist
style, playing on DT's use of 'roundabout'.
And he was using "roundabout" to mean what?
A quip that has to be explained over and over and is still
unintelligible isn't a joke.
A road junction that consists of a small round section with
other roads directly abutting it, in order to facilitate
smoothish traffic flow without lights.
http://youtu.be/46mOPz3rhHs
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given
your normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never
collected that particular "separated by a common language"
item.
"Traffic circles".
In Seattle, BTW, they are mostly used to slow cars down on the
side streets by forcing them into going around the center.
Since these are side streets, the cars aren't supposed to be
going all that fast anyway.
And then they began cutting down the car lanes on the
arterials by converting them into bike lanes, forcing traffic
off the arterials onto the side streets ...
City planning. Clearly an oxymoron.
Only if you assume that the goal is to make people's lives
easier. Traffic engineer has been a favorite target for social
engineers for decades. In the case of Seattle, it's very nearly
a given that their specific, conscious goal was to discourage
people from owning personal vehicles, regardless of how much
they damage people's lives in the process.
That does seem to be the consensus of opinion of a large number
of Seattleites -- both those in favor (bicycle riders) and those
opposed (car drivers).
And yet the repaving of 35th Ave NE a few years back ended up
/not/ adding bicycle lanes, apparently because the businesses
wanted to keep their customers by keeping their streetside
parking.
Business is business, and even politicians know which side their
graft and corruption is buttered on.
Post by Paul S Person
The bicyclists were referred to side streets and a major
arterial several blocks over that had bike lanes. None of the
articles I read pointed out that the first few blocks east of
35th Ave NE are located on a very steep hillside, rather hard to
pedal up. The major street is in the valley east of the hill.
That would produce less pushback from the masshole types, I
imagine.
Post by Paul S Person
Of course, with electric bikes, the hills are (apparently) ...
less formidable than they used to be. These bikes are, of
course, more stealable because they cost more to buy and, of
necessity, are left outside a lot.
Surf City has a *serious* problem with bicycle theft, electric or
not. The city has been embroiled in a lawsuit with the state over
providing shelter space that has hamstrung the ability of the
police to roust the homeless types, no matter how egregious their
behavior. So we have homeless meth-heads literally setting up
bicycle chop shops *in the city parks*, to strip them down for
parts, or, in at least one case, hang the frames from trees to
repaint with spray paint (undoubtedly huffing the paint while they
do), all for a few bucks for their next fix.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Joy Beeson
2021-06-02 03:12:34 UTC
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Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Apparently in the US they're sometimes called "circles". Given your
normal linguistic bent, I'm surprised you've never collected that
particular "separated by a common language" item.
A traffic circle isn't a roundabout. It's just a circular street,
with ordinary intersections. It may be two-way.

Traffic circles are primarily decorative.
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
Robert Carnegie
2021-05-30 15:18:52 UTC
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Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
OBSF: Wasn't there a Ballard short which involved people living on a
roundabout??
And I first heard a variation of that back in the 1960s or 1970s.
It's a novel <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_Island>
apparently set in the space between intersecting freeways -
not on a "roundabout" but Google found it anyway. The cover
shown uses a fairly abstract triangle shape.

Realistically, going by the description, it isn't absolutely
realistic, I suppose it's a metaphor of suddenly falling out
of your place in the modern world... and slightly like when
_Alice's Adventures in Wonderland_ has Alice lost in a sea
of her own tears, then joined by many other creatures
also swept away in the flood.
Gary R. Schmidt
2021-05-31 02:30:44 UTC
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Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by Gary R. Schmidt
Post by Dimensional Traveler
Post by Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
And of course one could send ME cash and I'll send a book. It's a
roundabout method rather than buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire with
a credit or debit card, but it'd work.
Isn't buying through Amazon or Ring of Fire the roundabout way compared
to buying the book directly from the author?
Ryk lives in a converted roundabout. He converted
it into a catapult. My advice, give him your neighbor's
address for delivery: that thing runs pretty fast.
I just googled "roundabout (disambiguation)." It gave me no
example of anything that could be converted into something
anybody could live in. Care to explain?
Itneeds the jump to "living _on_ a converted roundabout" to work.
OBSF: Wasn't there a Ballard short which involved people living on a
roundabout??
And I first heard a variation of that back in the 1960s or 1970s.
It's a novel <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_Island>
apparently set in the space between intersecting freeways -
not on a "roundabout" but Google found it anyway. The cover
shown uses a fairly abstract triangle shape.
Ah, that's right.

I read it decades ago, possible serialised in "New Worlds" back when it
was the size of a tabloid newspaper!?!!?

Cheers,
Gary B-)
--
Waiting for a new signature to suggest itself...
Lynn McGuire
2021-05-29 23:21:55 UTC
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Post by Bo Lindbergh
Yet another book of yours that can't be bought with cash.
This is getting annoying.
/Bo Lindbergh
At one point, B&N was going to put a POD (print on demand) machine in
each store. They were going to put one copy of book on the shelf and
let you buy that for cash or charge or else print you a brand new book
in a few minutes. But then B&N found out that the POD machines are very
high maintenance and did not want to hire the 2 or 3 technicians needed
for each store.

Ryk will send you a dead tree copy if you send him the bucks first.
Email him.

Lynn
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
2021-06-01 21:08:48 UTC
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Ryk, you're a sly bastard. I can't believe it's taken me this many
books to figure out where Oasis came from.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Robert Woodward
2021-06-02 05:10:19 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Ryk, you're a sly bastard. I can't believe it's taken me this many
books to figure out where Oasis came from.
He had to be rather oblique about "K"; after all, you do know who the
copyright holder is.

BTW, I think too many of the Hyperion references are 20th century (or
very early 21st) media properties. I wonder how many books have an evil
sorcerers call "Bey". The 2 books I have read are not commonly talked
about (though James Nicoll did do a review, as part of his "tears"
sequence, recently).
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward ***@drizzle.com
Ninapenda Jibini
2021-06-02 05:51:15 UTC
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Ryk, you're a sly bastard. I can't believe it's taken me this
many books to figure out where Oasis came from.
He had to be rather oblique about "K"; after all, you do know
who the copyright holder is.
In fact, I don't, since I haven't figured out where that side of the
character came from. I suspect it's something I haven't read. But
Oasis, I should have recognized immeidately, given my history with
Pete.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Robert Woodward
2021-06-03 04:52:36 UTC
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Post by Robert Woodward
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Ryk, you're a sly bastard. I can't believe it's taken me this
many books to figure out where Oasis came from.
He had to be rather oblique about "K"; after all, you do know
who the copyright holder is.
In fact, I don't, since I haven't figured out where that side of the
character came from. I suspect it's something I haven't read. But
Oasis, I should have recognized immeidately, given my history with
Pete.
Oh ... checks names with Google ... I see. That Oasis is a red head with
long braids. Hadn't realized that this was a double allusion. "K" wasn't
from a book; she was the principal character (a red head, but not with
long braids) in an animated series that lasted about 5 years early this
century (IIRC, Ryk mentioned, on Baen's Bar years ago, that there was a
sequel series which hasn't happened yet in OTL). Thus it is not only ...
possible ..., but highly probably that you wouldn't have recognized her.
--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
‹-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward ***@drizzle.com
Dorothy J Heydt
2021-06-03 14:37:05 UTC
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Post by Robert Woodward
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
Ryk, you're a sly bastard. I can't believe it's taken me this
many books to figure out where Oasis came from.
He had to be rather oblique about "K"; after all, you do know
who the copyright holder is.
In fact, I don't, since I haven't figured out where that side of the
character came from. I suspect it's something I haven't read. But
Oasis, I should have recognized immeidately, given my history with
Pete.
Oh ... checks names with Google ... I see. That Oasis is a red head with
long braids. Hadn't realized that this was a double allusion. "K" wasn't
from a book; she was the principal character (a red head, but not with
long braids) in an animated series that lasted about 5 years early this
century (IIRC, Ryk mentioned, on Baen's Bar years ago, that there was a
sequel series which hasn't happened yet in OTL). Thus it is not only ...
possible ..., but highly probably that you wouldn't have recognized her.
And I still haven't. Would somebody care to email me with the
vital clue?
--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
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2021-06-03 16:33:12 UTC
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Ryk, you're a sly bastard. I can't believe it's taken me
this many books to figure out where Oasis came from.
He had to be rather oblique about "K"; after all, you do know
who the copyright holder is.
In fact, I don't, since I haven't figured out where that side
of the character came from. I suspect it's something I haven't
read. But Oasis, I should have recognized immeidately, given my
history with Pete.
Oh ... checks names with Google ... I see. That Oasis is a red
head with long braids. Hadn't realized that this was a double
allusion. "K" wasn't from a book; she was the principal
character (a red head, but not with long braids) in an animated
series that lasted about 5 years early this century (IIRC, Ryk
mentioned, on Baen's Bar years ago, that there was a sequel
series which hasn't happened yet in OTL). Thus it is not only
... possible ..., but highly probably that you wouldn't have
recognized her.
If it's from an anime series, that probablility is 100%.
--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
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