Post by J. Clarke Post by firstname.lastname@example.org
As for the US sovietization, maybe I oughtn't comment just yet, since
I'm a bit peeved, having risked death confronting them face to face
overseas, and now find the paid agents running things here.
While I keep hearing the accusation, I'm not seeing much proof. And
after Hillary Clinton accused Tulsi Gabbard of being a Russian agent
She didn't. She called her a Russian "asset". She probably intended
that to be taken wrong, but it's a term that means specifically
someone helpful to Russia, who may or may not be conscious of that
helpfulness. I suppose I'm a South Korean asset in that sense, even
though I'm pretty sure I've never communicated with a South Korean
Tulsi Gabbard seems to me an isolationist. Someone like Clinton for
whom intervention is just another policy option would probably
understand American isolation as allowing Russian (and Chinese, and
...) triumph, and have trouble seeing it as having any other goal.
Post by J. Clarke
I'm inclined to dismiss the whole thing as just more lies told by
politicians to demonize other politicians.
Remember Republican attempts to demonize Obama for bowing? This seems
to be the same sort of thing.
Russians in fact exerted themselves to affect our 2016 election.
Donald Trump vocally encouraged them to do so. In office, he started
out surprisingly favourable to Russia's president.  It seems that
his campaign never got around to linking up with the Russians in a
useful way, so I suppose there was no fire, but there was a *lot* of
smoke, and it wasn't unreasonable to go look.
I didn't pay attention to complaints about Obama bowing at the time,
so can't evaluate the analogy.
 Thinking about his term so far, Trump's enthusiasm for dictators
in general has turned out to have surprisingly clear limits. Yes, he
fights with our allies, but he also fights with dictators - Kim and
Xi for example. He's signed legislation unfavourable to Putin. He's
obviously more *comfortable* with dictators than with elected
politicians, and more inclined to say nice things about them, but it
isn't obvious to me that his actions as president are based on that,
so this particular bit of the smoke seems to have been a clear false
I suppose, in a way, this speaks *for* Trump. In this regard he
doesn't let his personal preferences get in the way of his governing.
But I can't blame my side for assuming he meant what he said, back
when the whole Russia probe thing got started.
Joe Bernstein <***@gmail.com>
, although this has
since turned out to have limits, as has Trump's enthusiasm for
dictators in general. (He's also managed to fight with Kim and Xi,
for example, despite also effusively praising them.)