Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 23 May 2020 03:43:54 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
Post by Quadibloc
Comes the Revolution, black people will *like* mathematics and science.
Lots of them already do, asshole. Maybe a higher percentage than
That is entirely possible given the sad condition of the educational system in
the United States at present. There must be some reason why so many white people
voted for Donald Trump.
I regret that my statement lent itself to an interpretation that I was
attempting to perpetuate stereotypes about black people like "natural rhythm"
and so on.
In the context of what I was replying to, though, my meaning was this:
Although it most likely is true, at a fundamental biological level, that the
inherent intelligence of black people is the same as that for white people,
looking at the current situation, there _is_ reason to suspect that due to a
number of factors, making the quality of schools, and the education provided in
schools, experienced by black people equal to that which is experienced by
whites won't automatically and immediately result in full equality of academic
performance by conventional metrics.
Part of that, of course, is that they will be coming from homes more likely to
be afflicted with poverty. But neither throwing money at those households nor
remedial instruction is likely to be a panacea either. (In some cases,
interventions in those households would be more relevant. However, even they
won't necessarily fix everything; you can't just turn a drug dealer into an
upstanding citizen through some magic Clockwork Orange style reprogramming.)
Another part of the issue will be cultural.
Natural rhythm may be racist crap, but because historically careers in STEM, in
the legal profession, in accounting, and so on have tended to be largely closed
to black people, while music has been open to them as an opportunity, means that
some proportion of intelligent young black people with aptitudes both musically
and in other directions would be more likely to opt for music because of this.
Hence my paraphrase of the famous quote to say that aiming at identical outcomes
*does* imply African-Americans would find themselves in a Procrustean bed from
the pursuit of such a thing too aggressively.