“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”

[Lynn McGuire]

“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-past-4000-years/

“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that
there is a correspondence between the level of solar activity and
climate. They also agree that humans do better in warmer times than in
colder times. It is time for the “consensus” to face up to the
historical and archeological facts.”

Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly
caused by Sol’s variability. And people can grow more food in warmer
times and live easier.

Lynn

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Lynn McGuire
“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-
past-4000-years/
“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that
there is a correspondence between the level of solar activity and
climate. They also agree that humans do better in warmer times than in
colder times. It is time for the “consensus” to face up to the
historical and archeological facts.”
Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly
caused by Sol’s variability.  And people can grow more food in warmer
times and live easier.
Lynn

No wonder you read Speculative Fiction. You lack
apparently the "lobes" for science and wish to push the blame
off on Sol Invitus.
`
As as person who prizes the work done by the real climate
scientist i find your argument absurd. And your estimate of the
time the planet has been warming ridiculous. The Earth has been
warming since the last Ice Age.
Crabs, lobsters and other sea food do very well with
sea water until it is heated to boiling. You do not even have
to heat the coral near boiling and the coral is dying. Sea mammals
like Whales are suffering from nutritional insufficiency because
the food they depend on is dying.

Humans can handle a bit of warmth though personally
beyond 70 degrees F makes me very uncomfortable but in areas
that have been hot but not too hot for humans people are dying
from the heat. Certain crops will not grow well in higher heat.
The soil where not flooded and being washed away is drying out.

So I believe that human activity has contributed to the
release of gases which prevent the atmosphere from cooling
properly. Among those are Methane and Carbon Dioxide.

When the glaciers of California or anywhere else
start growing again I would if then alive proclaim
victory over the Climate Crisis present and impending.

bliss the hobbler(bad ankle)

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Lynn McGuire
“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-
past-4000-years/
“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that
there is a correspondence between the level of solar activity and
climate. They also agree that humans do better in warmer times than in
colder times. It is time for the “consensus” to face up to the
historical and archeological facts.”
Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly
caused by Sol’s variability.  And people can grow more food in warmer
times and live easier.
Lynn

    No wonder you read Speculative Fiction. You lack
apparently the "lobes" for science and wish to push the blame
off on Sol Invitus.
`
    As as person who prizes the work done by the real climate
scientist i find your argument absurd. And your estimate of the
time the planet has been warming ridiculous. The Earth has been
warming since the last Ice Age.
    Crabs, lobsters and other sea food do very well with
sea water until it is heated to boiling.  You do not even have
to heat the coral near boiling and the coral is dying. Sea mammals
like Whales are suffering from nutritional insufficiency because
the food they depend on is dying.
    Humans can handle a bit of warmth though personally
beyond 70 degrees F makes me very uncomfortable but in areas
that have been hot but not too hot for humans people are dying
from the heat. Certain crops will not grow well in higher heat.
The soil where not flooded and being washed away is drying out.
    So I believe that human activity has contributed to the
release of gases which prevent the atmosphere from cooling
properly. Among those are Methane and Carbon Dioxide.
    When the glaciers of California or anywhere else
start growing again I would if then alive proclaim
victory over the Climate Crisis present and impending.
    bliss the hobbler(bad ankle)

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

BTW, come over here to southern central Texas (Houston area). I have
seen 113 F here on Labor Day weekend of 1999. I have also seen 6 F here
on Christmas Eve of 1989. In all cases the humidity is quite high (40%
to 95%) sine we only are 30 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico, the
world's biggest hot tub.

However it is rare for us to go above 105 F or below 20 F. We air
condition everything including our football and baseball stadiums.

Sorry about your bad ankle. My 86 year old father now has a bad knee
since he got run into by an idiot lady at a gas station on Monday while
walking in to get his receipt.

Lynn

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by Lynn McGuire

“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Post by Lynn McGuire
BTW, come over here to southern central Texas (Houston area). I have
seen 113 F here on Labor Day weekend of 1999. I have also seen 6 F here
on Christmas Eve of 1989. In all cases the humidity is quite high (40%
to 95%) sine we only are 30 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico, the
world's biggest hot tub.

As anyone rational realizes, "weather" is not "climate".

[D]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Your Lynn-focused ad hominems are not very nice. They also make Jesus cry.

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire
BTW, come over here to southern central Texas (Houston area). I have
seen 113 F here on Labor Day weekend of 1999. I have also seen 6 F here
on Christmas Eve of 1989. In all cases the humidity is quite high (40%
to 95%) sine we only are 30 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico, the
world's biggest hot tub.

As anyone rational realizes, "weather" is not "climate".

[William Hyde]

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?

What do you think is used to create climate models?

No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.

William Hyde

[D]

Post by William Hyde

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate science
reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the time
you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

[William Hyde]

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Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.

Try again.

William Hyde

[D]

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Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.
William Hyde

Incorrect. If you want another answer, please rephrase the question.

[William Hyde]

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Post by William Hyde

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Post by William Hyde

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Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at
the time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of
the corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the
iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.
William Hyde

Incorrect. If you want another answer, please rephrase the question.

The question is quite clear, as is your refusal to answer it, which
speaks volumes about you.

Any honest debater learns the other side's case. Trolls on the other
hand ...

William Hyde

[D]

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Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.
William Hyde

Incorrect. If you want another answer, please rephrase the question.

The question is quite clear, as is your refusal to answer it, which speaks
volumes about you.
Any honest debater learns the other side's case. Trolls on the other hand
...
William Hyde

No, it is not clear. I you asked, I answered, you say I did not, I asked
you to rephrase, you did not. The troll in this case, I'm afraid, is on
the other side.

[James Nicoll]

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Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.

You do understand you're dealing with a politer Terry Austin, right? Or
perhaps Ted Holden.

[William Hyde]

Post by James Nicoll

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.

You do understand you're dealing with a politer Terry Austin, right? Or
perhaps Ted Holden.

You're talking to someone who spent tens of thousands of lines debating
Ted. You could never shake Ted from his core beliefs, but if you beat
him over the head often enough he sometimes, sometimes, would actually
learn something.

It was a huge waste of time, but once in a while explaining things to
Ted would clarify my teaching ability. In one discussion his errors
prompted me to make a simple model of Venus' atmosphere, useless for
research purposes but illustrative as a teaching tool.

I stopped talking to Terry in trollish mode long ago. And of course in
recent years he had no other mode.

D has miles to go to reach those levels.

William Hyde

[D]

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Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both
short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.

You do understand you're dealing with a politer Terry Austin, right? Or
perhaps Ted Holden.

You're talking to someone who spent tens of thousands of lines debating Ted.
You could never shake Ted from his core beliefs, but if you beat him over the
head often enough he sometimes, sometimes, would actually learn something.
It was a huge waste of time, but once in a while explaining things to Ted
would clarify my teaching ability. In one discussion his errors prompted me
to make a simple model of Venus' atmosphere, useless for research purposes
but illustrative as a teaching tool.
I stopped talking to Terry in trollish mode long ago. And of course in
recent years he had no other mode.
D has miles to go to reach those levels.

You're saying he was worse than me? Maybe there is hope for me after all!
;)

William Hyde

[Jaimie Vandenbergh]

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Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both
short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.

You'll find it an easier life if you stop trying to engage in logical
arguments with people who don't believe in facts, science, evidence or
logic.

Cheers - Jaimie

[Paul S Person]

On 6 Dec 2024 15:53:34 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both
short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.

You'll find it an easier life if you stop trying to engage in logical
arguments with people who don't believe in facts, science, evidence or
logic.

But ... but ... but ... it's so much /fun/ tweaking them!

[D]

Post by Paul S Person
On 6 Dec 2024 15:53:34 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors. Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both
short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up. I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

That models can be whipped up at will, based on the directions of the
people who are funding it. Climate gate is an excellent example of the
corruption in the field. It was probably just the tip of the iceberg.

That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Try again.

You'll find it an easier life if you stop trying to engage in logical
arguments with people who don't believe in facts, science, evidence or
logic.

But ... but ... but ... it's so much /fun/ tweaking them!

This is the truth!

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the
time you wrote the above.
William Hyde

The United Nations Environment Program reports more than 20 of the
world’s 72 seagrass species are on the decline. As a result, an
estimated 7 percent of these habitats are lost each year.

In the western Atlantic, some eelgrass meadows have been reduced
by more than 90 percent in the last 100 years, according to The
Nature Conservancy, an environmental nonprofit that works to protect
lands and waters around the world.

Now, rising sea surface temperatures caused by global
warming are pushing the plant to the brink of extinction.

<https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/12/seagrass-is-fantastic-at-carbon-capture-and-its-at-risk-of-extinction/>

I saw something on TV about attempts by the flightless
two-legged shore birds called humans, were making to spread
eel grass. I missed the part about eel grass being
close to extinction.
Without the meadows of eel grass will the eel thrive?
Will there be no more Japaneses style bar-be-qued Eel?

But aside from that, that is a common story in these days of
something that has been doing us good, quietly working in the
background to make our existence more tenable and we are
destroying its habitat.

I may put it under some climate skeptics (yes there are
those still who blinded by a fossil fuel income) cannot see
past the end of their noses.

bliss - stewing in my own juice

[D]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by William Hyde

Post by D

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire

???Climate Change over the past 4000 Years???

I have quite a bit of experience running forced flow and natural flow
reactors.  Sol acts exactly like a natural flow reactor with both short
and long cycles of variability.

You have zero climate science background, so your experience with
non-nuclear reactors seems somewhat irrelevent.

Nonsense. Climate "science" is political. The real stuff is climate
science reduced to physics.

Let's try a little test, shall we?
What do you think is used to create climate models?
No cheating, no looking it up.  I want to know what you thought at the time
you wrote the above.
William Hyde

The United Nations Environment Program reports more than 20 of the
world’s 72 seagrass species are on the decline. As a result, an
estimated 7 percent of these habitats are lost each year.

No worries bobbie. The current living species represent only 4% of all
species that ever lived on this planet. So extinction is natural and part
of the circle of life.

Depending on the ROI, extinction can actually be a good thing!

Post by Bobbie Sellers
In the western Atlantic, some eelgrass meadows have been reduced
by more than 90 percent in the last 100 years, according to The
Nature Conservancy, an environmental nonprofit that works to protect lands
and waters around the world.
Now, rising sea surface temperatures caused by global
warming are pushing the plant to the brink of extinction.
<https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/12/seagrass-is-fantastic-at-carbon-capture-and-its-at-risk-of-extinction/>
I saw something on TV about attempts by the flightless
two-legged shore birds called humans, were making to spread
eel grass. I missed the part about eel grass being
close to extinction.
Without the meadows of eel grass will the eel thrive?
Will there be no more Japaneses style bar-be-qued Eel?
But aside from that, that is a common story in these days of
something that has been doing us good, quietly working in the
background to make our existence more tenable and we are
destroying its habitat.
I may put it under some climate skeptics (yes there are
those still who blinded by a fossil fuel income) cannot see
past the end of their noses.
bliss - stewing in my own juice

[The Horny Goat]

On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:33:57 -0800, Bobbie Sellers

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I may put it under some climate skeptics (yes there are
those still who blinded by a fossil fuel income) cannot see
past the end of their noses.

Where are you with respect to people like me who accept that humans
can influence the global climate (in a warming kind of way) but
despairs that any effective climate change treaty can do the trick as
long as China and India are massively using coal power and expanding
their use of it?

Frankly if Canadians (all 35 million plus of us) all committed suicide
overnight it wouldn't have 1/4 the effect on the global climate than
if China reduced their coal emissions 20% - and they need to reduce
them considerably more than that to meet the targets.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by The Horny Goat
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 13:33:57 -0800, Bobbie Sellers

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I may put it under some climate skeptics (yes there are
those still who blinded by a fossil fuel income) cannot see
past the end of their noses.

Where are you with respect to people like me who accept that humans
can influence the global climate (in a warming kind of way) but
despairs that any effective climate change treaty can do the trick as
long as China and India are massively using coal power and expanding
their use of it?

Their sins(means inconveniences) should not be ours. We produced
most of the warming gases in the last 70 years or so and we should not
refrain from moving away from fossil fuels for fear of loss of profits
on the part of Fossil Fuel Companies CEOs. Meantime the USA and likely
Canada are exporting a lot of fossil fuels including some of the coal
China is burning.

Post by The Horny Goat
Frankly if Canadians (all 35 million plus of us) all committed suicide
overnight it wouldn't have 1/4 the effect on the global climate than
if China reduced their coal emissions 20% - and they need to reduce
them considerably more than that to meet the targets.

Well if China doesn't reduce its emissions we can sanction
them and reduce world imports of the stuff made via pollution.
They are building out solar and wind power facilities so
eventually they should catch up with the power needs and start to
take the coal offline. The climate change has been harsh for them
as for us.

bliss

[D]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-
past-4000-years/
“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that there
is a correspondence between the level of solar activity and climate. They
also agree that humans do better in warmer times than in colder times. It
is time for the “consensus” to face up to the historical and archeological
facts.”
Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly caused
by Sol’s variability.  And people can grow more food in warmer times and
live easier.
Lynn

No wonder you read Speculative Fiction. You lack
apparently the "lobes" for science and wish to push the blame
off on Sol Invitus.
`
As as person who prizes the work done by the real climate
scientist i find your argument absurd. And your estimate of the
time the planet has been warming ridiculous. The Earth has been
warming since the last Ice Age.
Crabs, lobsters and other sea food do very well with
sea water until it is heated to boiling. You do not even have
to heat the coral near boiling and the coral is dying. Sea mammals
like Whales are suffering from nutritional insufficiency because
the food they depend on is dying.
Humans can handle a bit of warmth though personally
beyond 70 degrees F makes me very uncomfortable but in areas
that have been hot but not too hot for humans people are dying
from the heat. Certain crops will not grow well in higher heat.
The soil where not flooded and being washed away is drying out.
So I believe that human activity has contributed to the
release of gases which prevent the atmosphere from cooling
properly. Among those are Methane and Carbon Dioxide.
When the glaciers of California or anywhere else
start growing again I would if then alive proclaim
victory over the Climate Crisis present and impending.
bliss the hobbler(bad ankle)

Hello Bobbie, please read this important article:

https://thehighwire.com/editorial/new-peer-reviewed-study-co2-has-zero-impact-on-climate-change/

You have nothing to fear.

[The Horny Goat]

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 17:59:05 -0800, Bobbie Sellers

Post by Bobbie Sellers
As as person who prizes the work done by the real climate
scientist i find your argument absurd. And your estimate of the
time the planet has been warming ridiculous. The Earth has been
warming since the last Ice Age.

Of course - that's why they call it an Ice Age - by definition it's
bound to be the coldest part of the era.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Crabs, lobsters and other sea food do very well with
sea water until it is heated to boiling. You do not even have
to heat the coral near boiling and the coral is dying. Sea mammals
like Whales are suffering from nutritional insufficiency because
the food they depend on is dying.

Different critters favor different temperatures - that's hardly news.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Humans can handle a bit of warmth though personally
beyond 70 degrees F makes me very uncomfortable but in areas
that have been hot but not too hot for humans people are dying
from the heat. Certain crops will not grow well in higher heat.
The soil where not flooded and being washed away is drying out.
So I believe that human activity has contributed to the
release of gases which prevent the atmosphere from cooling
properly. Among those are Methane and Carbon Dioxide.

The important thing is how much - natural rising and falling of
temperatures is part of the climactic cycles. Human beings have
expanded exponentially and how much our impact makes a difference
depends on where we're at on the natural cycle.

10000-20000 years ago the present amount of human impact probably
would have been a benefit given we then had an ice age. These days not
so much - and no question the climate has various "tipping points"
built it. Climate scientists disagree at what levels these kick in but
few disagree those are there.

[D]

“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-past-4000-years/
“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that there is
a correspondence between the level of solar activity and climate. They also
agree that humans do better in warmer times than in colder times. It is time
for the “consensus” to face up to the historical and archeological facts.”
Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly caused by
Sol’s variability. And people can grow more food in warmer times and live
easier.
Lynn

This is the truth! We should actually welcome warmer weather, since it
will mean more food, less starvation, and also, as we've seen from NASA
footage, receding deserts and more plant life on the planet. Forests are
actually growing.

That is why we do not need to fear climate change. When it comes to
"tipping points" we've had at least 10x the amount of CO2 historically,
and the planet did not self-destruct.

With Trump in power, I'm hoping that the US will soon leave the useless
Paris climate accords once again, and start to lower taxes, and focusing
more on getting business going again.

[Scott Lurndal]

“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-past-4000-years/

Anthony Watts and his cohort aren't scientists. He's a failed weather
reporter from Chico California.

Most of what is posted on that site is pure nonsense, or irrelevent
with respect to the climate (such as what follows in this post).

“Many paleoclimatologists, archeologists, and historians agree that
there is a correspondence between the level of solar activity and
climate. They also agree that humans do better in warmer times than in
colder times. It is time for the “consensus” to face up to the
historical and archeological facts.”
Very shocking, climate is variable over the years and it is mostly
caused by Sol’s variability. And people can grow more food in warmer
times and live easier.
Lynn

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Lynn McGuire
“Climate Change over the past 4000 Years”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/12/03/climate-change-over-the-past-4000-years/

Anthony Watts and his cohort aren't scientists. He's a failed weather
reporter from Chico California.
Most of what is posted on that site is pure nonsense, or irrelevent
with respect to the climate (such as what follows in this post).

Ah, jealousy.

Lynn