Nebula Finalists 1980

[James Nicoll]

This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.

Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm
The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper

I have read all of them. I've reviewed most of them, save for the Clarke
and the Disch. Disch also lost a Hugo to Clarke, placing fifth out of
five finalists.

Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear
Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson

All but the Schenck. Don't ask me detailed questions about the Delany,
though.


Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin

All but the Dann (who I seem to have missed almost entirely) and
the Shea.

Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

giANTS by Edward Bryant
Unaccompanied Sonata by Orson Scott Card
The Way of Cross and Dragon by George R. R. Martin
Red As Blood by Tanith Lee
The Extraordinary Voyages of Amelie Bertrand by Joanna Russ
Vernalfest Morning by Michael Bishop

All but the Russ and the Bishop. I don't remember the Bryant
(although I do have a collection with it in I could reread) but
I find it hard to believe I would not have picked the Russ over
it.

This seems to have been a good year for The Magazine of Fantasy
and Science Fiction.

[Robert Woodward]

Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.

Ahem. Reagan became President in 1981. Besides, it was the Japanese who
started the liberation from middle class prosperity in the mid 1970s
(that's when the US manufacturing balance of trade went negative and has
stayed that way ever since).

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm
The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper

Have only read the _ The Fountains of Paradise_, _ Titan_, and _ The
Road to Corlay_.

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Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear
Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson

I know I have read "Enemy Mine" and "Fireship". I remember looking at
"The Tale of Gorgik" but I can't remember if I read the whole thing.

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Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin

I know I have read "Sandkings" and, having checked, I see that I had
read "The Ways of Love" as well.

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Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
giANTS by Edward Bryant
Unaccompanied Sonata by Orson Scott Card
The Way of Cross and Dragon by George R. R. Martin
Red As Blood by Tanith Lee
The Extraordinary Voyages of Amelie Bertrand by Joanna Russ
Vernalfest Morning by Michael Bishop

I have read "Unaccompanied Sonata" and "Red as Blood"; I don't remember
reading "The Way of Cross and Dragon" (though I might have since I have
the issue of Omni it originally appeared in).

[Titus G]

On 23/04/24 04:58, Robert Woodward wrote:
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Post by Robert Woodward
I have read "Unaccompanied Sonata" and "Red as Blood"; I don't remember
reading "The Way of Cross and Dragon" (though I might have since I have
the issue of Omni it originally appeared in).

Sandkings was one of my favourites for a very long time but on a reread,
I enjoyed The Way of Cross and Dragon more. I would recommend that you
reread it.

[BCFD 36]

I hate to say this, but I don't remember most of these. I may have read
some of them, but I have no memory of them, not even the titles.

Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke

Yes

Post by James Nicoll
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl

Maybe

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Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm

Maybe

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The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear

Definitely. It was in a SFBC anthology.

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Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson
All but the Schenck. Don't ask me detailed questions about the Delany,
though.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin

No memory of any of these.

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All but the Dann (who I seem to have missed almost entirely) and
the Shea.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
giANTS by Edward Bryant
Unaccompanied Sonata by Orson Scott Card
The Way of Cross and Dragon by George R. R. Martin

I think so

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Red As Blood by Tanith Lee
The Extraordinary Voyages of Amelie Bertrand by Joanna Russ
Vernalfest Morning by Michael Bishop
All but the Russ and the Bishop. I don't remember the Bryant
(although I do have a collection with it in I could reread) but
I find it hard to believe I would not have picked the Russ over
it.
This seems to have been a good year for The Magazine of Fantasy
and Science Fiction.

[William Hyde]

Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm
The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper

Oddly enough, not the Pohl or the Disch, authors I rarely miss. It's
been a long time since I read either, but though I liked the Clarke, I
think I'd have voted for Wilhelm.

Post by James Nicoll
I have read all of them. I've reviewed most of them, save for the Clarke
and the Disch. Disch also lost a Hugo to Clarke, placing fifth out of
five finalists.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear
Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson

Zero, shockingly.

Post by James Nicoll
All but the Schenck. Don't ask me detailed questions about the Delany,
though.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin

All but the Dann, I think, though I can't recall much of any but the
Martin, and the Shea, which I reread a few months ago.

Post by James Nicoll
All but the Dann (who I seem to have missed almost entirely) and
the Shea.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
giANTS by Edward Bryant
Unaccompanied Sonata by Orson Scott Card
The Way of Cross and Dragon by George R. R. Martin
Red As Blood by Tanith Lee
The Extraordinary Voyages of Amelie Bertrand by Joanna Russ
Vernalfest Morning by Michael Bishop

Only the Card and the Martin. How did I come to miss Bryant's entire
career?


William Hyde

[James Nicoll]

Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm
The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper

Oddly enough, not the Pohl or the Disch, authors I rarely miss. It's
been a long time since I read either, but though I liked the Clarke, I
think I'd have voted for Wilhelm.

Jem is extremely 1970s. The Disch I think is set in a new depression
era US, about a kid trying to make it in the arts.

Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
I have read all of them. I've reviewed most of them, save for the Clarke
and the Disch. Disch also lost a Hugo to Clarke, placing fifth out of
five finalists.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear
Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson

Zero, shockingly.

Post by James Nicoll
All but the Schenck. Don't ask me detailed questions about the Delany,
though.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin

All but the Dann, I think, though I can't recall much of any but the
Martin, and the Shea, which I reread a few months ago.

I should review Nif the Lean at some point.

Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
All but the Dann (who I seem to have missed almost entirely) and
the Shea.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
giANTS by Edward Bryant
Unaccompanied Sonata by Orson Scott Card
The Way of Cross and Dragon by George R. R. Martin
Red As Blood by Tanith Lee
The Extraordinary Voyages of Amelie Bertrand by Joanna Russ
Vernalfest Morning by Michael Bishop

Only the Card and the Martin. How did I come to miss Bryant's entire
career?

Because he was mostly a short fiction author? The exception being
the novelization of Phoenix Without Ashes.

Bryant was one of HE's most faithful supporters during the Last
Dangerous Visions debacle. I wonder if the story HE sat on for
fucking decades actually got into the book of that title to be
published in the fall?

[William Hyde]

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Post by William Hyde
All but the Dann, I think, though I can't recall much of any but the
Martin, and the Shea, which I reread a few months ago.

I should review Nif the Lean at some point.

I just bought two volumes of Shea's short stories. I really feel that
he wrote too little, but in fact his output is not that small:

A quest for Simbalis
The colour out of space
In Yana, the cult of undying
Nifft the lean
The Mines of Behemoth
The A'arak.

Plus various short novels I have not read.

And five volumes of short stories, though there seems to be
some overlap.


But I wanted more.

How did I come to miss Bryant's entire

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Post by William Hyde
career?

Because he was mostly a short fiction author? The exception being
the novelization of Phoenix Without Ashes.

I suppose so. There was a time when for some now obscure to me reason I
stopped reading short fiction. The thought that I stopped reading
Avram Davidson't short stories feels like something I should be blaming
on a long term coma or serious drug habit. But I just ... didn't.

William Hyde

[Tony Nance]

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Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm
The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper

Oddly enough, not the Pohl or the Disch, authors I rarely miss. It's
been a long time since I read either, but though I liked the Clarke, I
think I'd have voted for Wilhelm.

Jem is extremely 1970s. The Disch I think is set in a new depression
era US, about a kid trying to make it in the arts.

Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
I have read all of them. I've reviewed most of them, save for the Clarke
and the Disch. Disch also lost a Hugo to Clarke, placing fifth out of
five finalists.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear
Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson

Zero, shockingly.

Post by James Nicoll
All but the Schenck. Don't ask me detailed questions about the Delany,
though.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin

All but the Dann, I think, though I can't recall much of any but the
Martin, and the Shea, which I reread a few months ago.

I should review Nif the Lean at some point.

If you don't have it already (which seems unlikely) The Incompleat Nifft
has both Nifft the Lean and The Mines of Behemoth. I really enjoyed both
stories, and I'll certainly pick up The A'rak one of these days.

Tony

[James Nicoll]

Post by Tony Nance

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Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm
The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper

Oddly enough, not the Pohl or the Disch, authors I rarely miss. It's
been a long time since I read either, but though I liked the Clarke, I
think I'd have voted for Wilhelm.

Jem is extremely 1970s. The Disch I think is set in a new depression
era US, about a kid trying to make it in the arts.

Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
I have read all of them. I've reviewed most of them, save for the Clarke
and the Disch. Disch also lost a Hugo to Clarke, placing fifth out of
five finalists.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear
Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson

Zero, shockingly.

Post by James Nicoll
All but the Schenck. Don't ask me detailed questions about the Delany,
though.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin

All but the Dann, I think, though I can't recall much of any but the
Martin, and the Shea, which I reread a few months ago.

I should review Nif the Lean at some point.

If you don't have it already (which seems unlikely) The Incompleat Nifft
has both Nifft the Lean and The Mines of Behemoth. I really enjoyed both
stories, and I'll certainly pick up The A'rak one of these days.

I have the old DAW MMPB. Good old durable paperbacks.

[a425couple]

Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.

Right. Because James Nicoll thinks public employees have
every right to strike because they are forced to work
by cruel, merciless, and greedy federal, state, county,
municipal, and other governments.

[Chris Buckley]

Post by James Nicoll
This week's Which Nebula Finalists Have You Read features 1980. Ronald
Reagan began liberating the US from middle class prosperity and a lot
of interesting SF was published.
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke
On Wings of Song by Thomas M. Disch
Titan by John Varley
Jem by Frederik Pohl
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm
The Road to Corlay by Richard Cowper
I have read all of them. I've reviewed most of them, save for the Clarke
and the Disch. Disch also lost a Hugo to Clarke, placing fifth out of
five finalists.

Read all. No Favorites at all, though most were at least good (I
didn't like _Jem_)

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Enemy Mine by Barry B. Longyear
Fireship by Joan D. Vinge
The Tale of Gorgik by Samuel R. Delany
Mars Masked by Frederik Pohl
The Battle of the Abaco Reefs by Hilbert Schenck
The Story Writer by Richard Wilson
All but the Schenck. Don't ask me detailed questions about the Delany,
though.

Just the Longyear.

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
Sandkings by George R. R. Martin
Options by John Varley
The Ways of Love by Poul Anderson
Camps by Jack Dann
The Angel of Death by Michael Shea
The Pathways of Desire by Ursula K. Le Guin
All but the Dann (who I seem to have missed almost entirely) and
the Shea.

The Martin, Varley, and LeGuin

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1980 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
giANTS by Edward Bryant
Unaccompanied Sonata by Orson Scott Card
The Way of Cross and Dragon by George R. R. Martin
Red As Blood by Tanith Lee
The Extraordinary Voyages of Amelie Bertrand by Joanna Russ
Vernalfest Morning by Michael Bishop
All but the Russ and the Bishop. I don't remember the Bryant
(although I do have a collection with it in I could reread) but
I find it hard to believe I would not have picked the Russ over
it.

The Martin and Card.

Most of the shorter works that I've read from now on (and for the
previous couple of years) will be only works of authors I like and
would buy collections of their work. I bought very few general anthologies.

Chris