Nebula Finalists 1990

[James Nicoll]

1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.

Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.


Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
Great Work of Time by John Crowley
Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett

All but the Lindholm. There is strong correlation between me having
read a story and Dozois having anthologized it.


Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

At the Rialto by Connie Willis
Enter a Soldier. Later: Enter Another by Robert Silverberg
Fast Cars by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
For I Have Touched the Sky by Mike Resnick
Silver Lady and the Fortyish Man by Megan Lindholm
Sisters by Greg Bear

All but the Rusch.


Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop

Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
the Card and the movies of the same name.

[Robert Woodward]

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

Card, Yolen and Anderson

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
Great Work of Time by John Crowley
Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett
All but the Lindholm. There is strong correlation between me having
read a story and Dozois having anthologized it.

Bujold (don't believe I have read the Lindholm).

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
At the Rialto by Connie Willis
Enter a Soldier. Later: Enter Another by Robert Silverberg
Fast Cars by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
For I Have Touched the Sky by Mike Resnick
Silver Lady and the Fortyish Man by Megan Lindholm
Sisters by Greg Bear
All but the Rusch.

Maybe the Lindholm (BTW, years later)

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop
Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
the Card and the movies of the same name.

Maybe the Landis; I don't think I have read the Card.

[James Nicoll]

Post by Robert Woodward

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop
Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
the Card and the movies of the same name.

Maybe the Landis; I don't think I have read the Card.

I _heard_ about the Card. Lots of shouting. But if ISFDB can be
believed, it never appeared in any magazine or book I read.

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
Great Work of Time by John Crowley
Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett

Only the Bujold, and that was as part of _Borders of Infinity_.

[James Nicoll]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.
A quick glance at ISFDB suggests I have read (and in most cases own)
the following:

i
Novels

Vault of the Ages (1952)
The Broken Sword (1954)
Brain Wave (1954) also appeared as:
No World of Their Own (1955) AKA The Long Way Home (1975)
Star Ways (1956) AKA The Peregrine (1978)
The Enemy Stars (1958)
War of the Wing-Men (1958) AKA The Man Who Counts (1978)
Virgin Planet (1959)
We Claim These Stars! (1959)
The High Crusade (1960)
Three Hearts and Three Lions (1961)
Orbit Unlimited (1961)
After Doomsday (1962)
Let the Spacemen Beware! (1963) AKA The Night Face (1978)
Shield (1963) also appeared as:
Three Worlds to Conquer (1964)
The Corridors of Time (1965)
The Star Fox (1965)
Ensign Flandry (1966)
World Without Stars (1967)
Satan's World (1969)
The Rebel Worlds (1969)
Tau Zero (1970)
A Circus of Hells (1970)
Operation Chaos (1971)
The Dancer from Atlantis (1971)
The Byworlder (1971)
There Will Be Time (1972)
The People of the Wind (1973)
Hrolf Kraki's Saga (1973)
Inheritors of Earth (1974) with Gordon Eklund
The Day of Their Return (1974)
A Midsummer Tempest (1974)
Fire Time (1974)
Star Prince Charlie (1975) with Gordon R. Dickson
A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows (1975)
The Winter of the World (1976)
Mirkheim (1977)
The Avatar (1978)
The Merman's Children (1979)
A Stone in Heaven (1979)
The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon
The Golden Horn (1980)
The Road of the Sea Horse (1980)
The Sign of the Raven (1980)
The Devil's Game (1980)
Orion Shall Rise (1983)
The Game of Empire (1985)
The Boat of a Million Years (1989)
Harvest of Stars (1993)
The Stars Are Also Fire (1994)
Harvest the Fire (1995)
Starfarers (1998)
Operation Luna (1999)
Genesis (2000)
For Love and Glory (2003)

Collections

Earthman's Burden (1957) with Gordon R. Dickson
Guardians of Time (1960 )AKA The Guardians of Time (1981)
Twilight World (1961)
Strangers from Earth (1961)
Un-Man and Other Novellas (1962)
Time and Stars (1964)
Trader to the Stars (1964)
Agent of the Terran Empire (1965)
Flandry of Terra (1965)
The Trouble Twisters (1966)
The Horn of Time (1968)
Seven Conquests: An Adventure in Science Fiction (1969)
Beyond the Beyond (1969)
Tales of the Flying Mountains (1970)
The Queen of Air and Darkness and Other Stories (1973)
The Many Worlds of Poul Anderson (1974)AKA The Book of Poul Anderson (1975)
Homeward and Beyond (1975)
Homebrew (1976)
The Best of Poul Anderson (1976)
The Earth Book of Stormgate (1978)
The Psycho-Technic League (1981)
Winners (1981)
Fantasy (1981)
Explorations (1981)
The Dark Between the Stars (1981)
Cold Victory (1982)
Starship (1982)
Maurai & Kith (1982)
The Gods Laughed (1982)
New America (1982)
The Long Night (1983)
Conflict (1983)
Hoka! (1983) with Gordon R. Dickson
Time Patrolman (1983)
Past Times (1984)
Dialogue with Darkness (1985)
Going for Infinity (2002)
The Van Rijn Method (2008)
David Falkayn: Star Trader (2009)

Plus the Cleopatra shared world anthology.

In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

[Christian Weisgerber]

Post by James Nicoll
Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

Now I'm curious: What are Anderson's characteristic flaws?

[James Nicoll]

Post by Christian Weisgerber

Post by James Nicoll
Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

Now I'm curious: What are Anderson's characteristic flaws?

A huge blind spot where women were concerned that manifested in a
variety of ways. An excessive love of infodumps. A certain unsubtleness
weaving his politics into the narrative. An overfondness of certain
stylistic mannerisms I won't mention as they are hard to unsee.
Increasingly unrelenting fatalism. A tendency to trust his conclusions
more than he probably should have, my go-to example being his exchange
with Freeman Dyson where he jumps from "shell collecting all of the
Sun's light" to "Obs totalitarian" with fewer intervening steps
than I would have cared for.

But! His planets were huge and they were all different from each other.
He worked hard on his fiction and while I don't think he had his
masterpiece, he was always reliable.

[William Hyde]

Post by James Nicoll

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.
A quick glance at ISFDB suggests I have read (and in most cases own)
i
Novels
Vault of the Ages (1952)
The Broken Sword (1954)
No World of Their Own (1955) AKA The Long Way Home (1975)
Star Ways (1956) AKA The Peregrine (1978)
The Enemy Stars (1958)
War of the Wing-Men (1958) AKA The Man Who Counts (1978)
Virgin Planet (1959)
We Claim These Stars! (1959)
The High Crusade (1960)
Three Hearts and Three Lions (1961)
Orbit Unlimited (1961)
After Doomsday (1962)
Let the Spacemen Beware! (1963) AKA The Night Face (1978)
Three Worlds to Conquer (1964)
The Corridors of Time (1965)
The Star Fox (1965)
Ensign Flandry (1966)
World Without Stars (1967)
Satan's World (1969)
The Rebel Worlds (1969)
Tau Zero (1970)
A Circus of Hells (1970)
Operation Chaos (1971)
The Dancer from Atlantis (1971)
The Byworlder (1971)
There Will Be Time (1972)
The People of the Wind (1973)
Hrolf Kraki's Saga (1973)
Inheritors of Earth (1974) with Gordon Eklund
The Day of Their Return (1974)
A Midsummer Tempest (1974)
Fire Time (1974)
Star Prince Charlie (1975) with Gordon R. Dickson
A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows (1975)
The Winter of the World (1976)
Mirkheim (1977)
The Avatar (1978)
The Merman's Children (1979)
A Stone in Heaven (1979)
The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon
The Golden Horn (1980)
The Road of the Sea Horse (1980)
The Sign of the Raven (1980)
The Devil's Game (1980)
Orion Shall Rise (1983)
The Game of Empire (1985)
The Boat of a Million Years (1989)
Harvest of Stars (1993)
The Stars Are Also Fire (1994)
Harvest the Fire (1995)
Starfarers (1998)
Operation Luna (1999)
Genesis (2000)
For Love and Glory (2003)
Collections
Earthman's Burden (1957) with Gordon R. Dickson
Guardians of Time (1960 )AKA The Guardians of Time (1981)
Twilight World (1961)
Strangers from Earth (1961)
Un-Man and Other Novellas (1962)
Time and Stars (1964)
Trader to the Stars (1964)
Agent of the Terran Empire (1965)
Flandry of Terra (1965)
The Trouble Twisters (1966)
The Horn of Time (1968)
Seven Conquests: An Adventure in Science Fiction (1969)
Beyond the Beyond (1969)
Tales of the Flying Mountains (1970)
The Queen of Air and Darkness and Other Stories (1973)
The Many Worlds of Poul Anderson (1974)AKA The Book of Poul Anderson (1975)
Homeward and Beyond (1975)
Homebrew (1976)
The Best of Poul Anderson (1976)
The Earth Book of Stormgate (1978)
The Psycho-Technic League (1981)
Winners (1981)
Fantasy (1981)
Explorations (1981)
The Dark Between the Stars (1981)
Cold Victory (1982)
Starship (1982)
Maurai & Kith (1982)
The Gods Laughed (1982)
New America (1982)
The Long Night (1983)
Conflict (1983)
Hoka! (1983) with Gordon R. Dickson
Time Patrolman (1983)
Past Times (1984)
Dialogue with Darkness (1985)
Going for Infinity (2002)
The Van Rijn Method (2008)
David Falkayn: Star Trader (2009)
Plus the Cleopatra shared world anthology.
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

My first thought was that I would reply to this to the effect: "Hah, you
don't have ..." as my own Anderson collection is extensive.

But you do.

And I have never read, it seems, "The demon of scattery", or even heard
of it.

William Hyde

[James Nicoll]

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Post by James Nicoll
The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon

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Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

My first thought was that I would reply to this to the effect: "Hah, you
don't have ..." as my own Anderson collection is extensive.
But you do.
And I have never read, it seems, "The demon of scattery", or even heard
of it.

As I recall, PA mentored Broxon. This one was minor and I'd actually
pay money to forget her Matter of Ireland novel, Too Long a Sacrifice.

That said, she did get into Universe 5, with authors like Pangborn
and Le Guin. Maybe I am too harsh.

[William Hyde]

Post by James Nicoll
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Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon

snip

Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

My first thought was that I would reply to this to the effect: "Hah, you
don't have ..." as my own Anderson collection is extensive.
But you do.
And I have never read, it seems, "The demon of scattery", or even heard
of it.

As I recall, PA mentored Broxon. This one was minor and I'd actually
pay money to forget her Matter of Ireland novel, Too Long a Sacrifice.

I have read that, and forgotten it. I wish I could tell you how, but I
suspect excessive amounts of alcohol were involved.

OTOH I do tend to forget books I don't like, unless some specific bit is
just too terrible to forget. So perhaps the booze wasn't therapeutic,
after all.

William Hyde

[Chris Buckley]

Post by William Hyde

Post by James Nicoll

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.
A quick glance at ISFDB suggests I have read (and in most cases own)
i
Novels
Vault of the Ages (1952)
The Broken Sword (1954)
No World of Their Own (1955) AKA The Long Way Home (1975)
Star Ways (1956) AKA The Peregrine (1978)
The Enemy Stars (1958)
War of the Wing-Men (1958) AKA The Man Who Counts (1978)
Virgin Planet (1959)
We Claim These Stars! (1959)
The High Crusade (1960)
Three Hearts and Three Lions (1961)
Orbit Unlimited (1961)
After Doomsday (1962)
Let the Spacemen Beware! (1963) AKA The Night Face (1978)
Three Worlds to Conquer (1964)
The Corridors of Time (1965)
The Star Fox (1965)
Ensign Flandry (1966)
World Without Stars (1967)
Satan's World (1969)
The Rebel Worlds (1969)
Tau Zero (1970)
A Circus of Hells (1970)
Operation Chaos (1971)
The Dancer from Atlantis (1971)
The Byworlder (1971)
There Will Be Time (1972)
The People of the Wind (1973)
Hrolf Kraki's Saga (1973)
Inheritors of Earth (1974) with Gordon Eklund
The Day of Their Return (1974)
A Midsummer Tempest (1974)
Fire Time (1974)
Star Prince Charlie (1975) with Gordon R. Dickson
A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows (1975)
The Winter of the World (1976)
Mirkheim (1977)
The Avatar (1978)
The Merman's Children (1979)
A Stone in Heaven (1979)
The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon
The Golden Horn (1980)
The Road of the Sea Horse (1980)
The Sign of the Raven (1980)
The Devil's Game (1980)
Orion Shall Rise (1983)
The Game of Empire (1985)
The Boat of a Million Years (1989)
Harvest of Stars (1993)
The Stars Are Also Fire (1994)
Harvest the Fire (1995)
Starfarers (1998)
Operation Luna (1999)
Genesis (2000)
For Love and Glory (2003)
Collections
Earthman's Burden (1957) with Gordon R. Dickson
Guardians of Time (1960 )AKA The Guardians of Time (1981)
Twilight World (1961)
Strangers from Earth (1961)
Un-Man and Other Novellas (1962)
Time and Stars (1964)
Trader to the Stars (1964)
Agent of the Terran Empire (1965)
Flandry of Terra (1965)
The Trouble Twisters (1966)
The Horn of Time (1968)
Seven Conquests: An Adventure in Science Fiction (1969)
Beyond the Beyond (1969)
Tales of the Flying Mountains (1970)
The Queen of Air and Darkness and Other Stories (1973)
The Many Worlds of Poul Anderson (1974)AKA The Book of Poul Anderson (1975)
Homeward and Beyond (1975)
Homebrew (1976)
The Best of Poul Anderson (1976)
The Earth Book of Stormgate (1978)
The Psycho-Technic League (1981)
Winners (1981)
Fantasy (1981)
Explorations (1981)
The Dark Between the Stars (1981)
Cold Victory (1982)
Starship (1982)
Maurai & Kith (1982)
The Gods Laughed (1982)
New America (1982)
The Long Night (1983)
Conflict (1983)
Hoka! (1983) with Gordon R. Dickson
Time Patrolman (1983)
Past Times (1984)
Dialogue with Darkness (1985)
Going for Infinity (2002)
The Van Rijn Method (2008)
David Falkayn: Star Trader (2009)
Plus the Cleopatra shared world anthology.
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

My first thought was that I would reply to this to the effect: "Hah, you
don't have ..." as my own Anderson collection is extensive.
But you do.
And I have never read, it seems, "The demon of scattery", or even heard
of it.
William Hyde

Yes, a very impressive list. I have lots of Anderson but there are numerous
books I've never heard of (though I do have _The Demon of Scattery_.)

Of the 56 novels listed, I have 37. Ones I have that James didn't list
(though I know he's read at least a couple), most are short so perhaps
not novels:
_The Makeshift Rocket_ (published in UK, stand-alone but short)
_Mayday Orbit_ (Ace double, James listed other Ace doubles but not this one)
_No Truce With Kings_ (Tor double; I'm sure James has read)
_The Saturn Game_ (Tor double)
_The Shield of Time_ (I would call this a novel (as it calls itself), others
might call it a fixup novel/collection of original shorter works)

And there's several multiple author books I file under Anderson as the first
alphabetic author and I don't know who else to file it under!
_Five Fates_ (5 novellas)
_The Day the Sun Stood Still_ (3 novellas)
_Murasaki_ (a novel in 6 parts)

I'm missing a much higher percentage of the collections, as I would expect.
I have 15 of the 39 listed. Not listed by James:
_The Unicorn Trade_ (with Karen Anderson, so perhaps not officially a
collection? The vast majority is by Poul)

Poul Anderson is very consistently high quality, often almost Favorite
quality, but not many make it all the way for me. _Operation Chaos_,
_Three Hearts and Three Lions_, and _Five Fates_ (as a whole, not Anderson
in particular) are the only three current Favorites.

_Brain Wave_ and _Tau Zero_ have been on the Favorite bookcase in the
past but got removed in the era where the number of Favorites was
constrained by the size of the bookcase. Nowadays, all new Favorites
are ebooks so nothing is getting removed.

Chris

[Robert Woodward]

Post by James Nicoll

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.
A quick glance at ISFDB suggests I have read (and in most cases own)
i
Novels
Vault of the Ages (1952)

<SNIP! of a very impressive list>

I also have just about all of those (though are several I haven't yet
read). BTW, I have the mystery _Perish by the Sword_ and the
historicals _Rogue Sword_ and _The Golden Slave_.

Post by James Nicoll
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by James Nicoll

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

I seem to have not communicated clearly. To me, the term "fanboy"
refers to attitude rather than knowledge. It implies things such
as "adulation", "uncritical acceptance".

A fanboy wouldn't say something like "X's virtues outweigh his
flaws", but would say "what flaws?"

Post by James Nicoll
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

Interesting. What was Tarr doing for Norton? At one time, I loved her
work, but now find it a real chore to read.

[James Nicoll]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

I seem to have not communicated clearly. To me, the term "fanboy"
refers to attitude rather than knowledge. It implies things such
as "adulation", "uncritical acceptance".
A fanboy wouldn't say something like "X's virtues outweigh his
flaws", but would say "what flaws?"

Is it truely fandom to ignore an aspect of someone's work?

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Post by James Nicoll
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

Interesting. What was Tarr doing for Norton? At one time, I loved her
work, but now find it a real chore to read.

Tarr did (and might still be doing) a long running series of reviews
of Norton novels. _I_ received 50 Nortons and barely scratched the
surface.

[Michael F. Stemper]

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Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

I seem to have not communicated clearly. To me, the term "fanboy"
refers to attitude rather than knowledge. It implies things such
as "adulation", "uncritical acceptance".
A fanboy wouldn't say something like "X's virtues outweigh his
flaws", but would say "what flaws?"

Is it truely fandom to ignore an aspect of someone's work?

No, but I didn't say that; I never used the word "fandom". It is truly
being a "fanboy" to do exactly that.

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Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by James Nicoll
In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

Interesting. What was Tarr doing for Norton? At one time, I loved her
work, but now find it a real chore to read.

Tarr did (and might still be doing) a long running series of reviews
of Norton novels.

Cool. Looks like it's done:
<https://reactormag.com/tag/andre-norton-reread/>

[William Hyde]

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card

As a young lad I went to a picnic where sweets made without real sugar
were featured. I had three of them and enjoyed them very much. But
soon I began to feel poorly in a way I'd never felt before. Even to
think of that sugary taste makes me feel a bit ill, even today, even as
I type. I've avoided artificial sweeteners ever since. And Orson Scott
Card.

Post by James Nicoll
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

Liked the latter a bit more than you did. Written earlier in his career
this might have been a very good book indeed. As it was, I've never
been tempted to reread it.

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
Great Work of Time by John Crowley
Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett
All but the Lindholm. There is strong correlation between me having
read a story and Dozois having anthologized it.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
At the Rialto by Connie Willis
Enter a Soldier. Later: Enter Another by Robert Silverberg
Fast Cars by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
For I Have Touched the Sky by Mike Resnick
Silver Lady and the Fortyish Man by Megan Lindholm
Sisters by Greg Bear
All but the Rusch.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop
Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
the Card and the movies of the same name.

So very many stories I missed at this time. I should be looking for the
appropriate anthologies.

William Hyde

[Chris Buckley]

Post by James Nicoll
1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
Germanies abruptly fell by half.
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Ivory by Mike Resnick
Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson
All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

This is last week's; I missed it then evidently.

Read all. Didn't like the Anderson and thought I should like the Kessel,
but it just didn't work for me.

Probably the Yolen is the best of the bunch, though not a Favorite.
James, you would appreciate much of the Yolen, including the far-future
anthropological history excerpts looking back on the actions of the story,
trying to interpret the evidence into a patriarchal framework when it
is decidedly not.

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
Great Work of Time by John Crowley
Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett
All but the Lindholm. There is strong correlation between me having
read a story and Dozois having anthologized it.

Only the Bujold, though I would like to read the Crowley and the Effinger
(The Marid Audran series is a Favorite).

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
At the Rialto by Connie Willis
Enter a Soldier. Later: Enter Another by Robert Silverberg
Fast Cars by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
For I Have Touched the Sky by Mike Resnick
Silver Lady and the Fortyish Man by Megan Lindholm
Sisters by Greg Bear
All but the Rusch.

None

Post by James Nicoll
Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop
Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
the Card and the movies of the same name.

None

Chris