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Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024)
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James Nicoll
2024-03-21 13:24:37 UTC
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SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
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Don
2024-03-21 13:52:11 UTC
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SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
RIP.

Vinge's "Peace War" trilogy (or whatever you call it) was read by me
after a former frequenter of rasw, ?Greg? (the Vancouver government
bureaucrat), talked about it. Now, in Vinge's honor, the trilogy will be
heard by me next as soon as my _Martian Time-Slip_ (PKD) audio book
wraps up.

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Michael F. Stemper
2024-03-21 18:18:48 UTC
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SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
Damn, that's too bad!

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Tony Nance
2024-03-21 18:22:46 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
Aw, crud. Sad to hear that. Thanks for letting us know.
- Tony
Lynn McGuire
2024-03-21 22:33:19 UTC
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SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/vernor-vinge-father-of-the-tech-singularity-has-died-at-age-79/

RIP. I always thought his "Peace War" novels were his best works. And
his "Rainbows End" book was neat.

Lynn
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2024-03-22 03:17:25 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/vernor-vinge-father-of-the-tech-singularity-has-died-at-age-79/
RIP. I always thought his "Peace War" novels were his best works. And
his "Rainbows End" book was neat.
Lynn
I always remember encountering him first with a story about a mission on a
floating world to save an SF magazine's archives (but there's more going
on than the protag understands).. I really liked that.

I liked the bobble stories well enough, but wasn't really motivated
to seek him out.
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Chris Buckley
2024-03-22 03:49:59 UTC
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Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/vernor-vinge-father-of-the-tech-singularity-has-died-at-age-79/
RIP. I always thought his "Peace War" novels were his best works. And
his "Rainbows End" book was neat.
Lynn
I always remember encountering him first with a story about a mission on a
floating world to save an SF magazine's archives (but there's more going
on than the protag understands).. I really liked that.
I liked the bobble stories well enough, but wasn't really motivated
to seek him out.
Both _A Fire Upon the Deep_ and _A Deepness in the Sky_ are in my list of
absolute top Favorites. The novella _True Names_ is another Favorite, having
a large impact when I first read it (it was the first real introduction
of cyberspace.) All three of these fell into a rare category for me: books
that upon finishing my first reading demanded an immediate re-read.

Chris
Kevrob
2024-03-22 05:16:46 UTC
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Post by Chris Buckley
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/vernor-vinge-father-of-the-tech-singularity-has-died-at-age-79/
RIP. I always thought his "Peace War" novels were his best works. And
his "Rainbows End" book was neat.
Lynn
I always remember encountering him first with a story about a mission on a
floating world to save an SF magazine's archives (but there's more going
on than the protag understands).. I really liked that.
I liked the bobble stories well enough, but wasn't really motivated
to seek him out.
Both _A Fire Upon the Deep_ and _A Deepness in the Sky_ are in my list of
absolute top Favorites. The novella _True Names_ is another Favorite, having
a large impact when I first read it (it was the first real introduction
of cyberspace.) All three of these fell into a rare category for me: books
that upon finishing my first reading demanded an immediate re-read.
Chris
I also thought those were great.

Mike Glyer's site has an appreciation.

https://file770.com/vernor-vinge-1944-2024/
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2024-03-22 09:06:06 UTC
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Post by Chris Buckley
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/vernor-vinge-father-of-the-tech-singularity-has-died-at-age-79/
RIP. I always thought his "Peace War" novels were his best works. And
his "Rainbows End" book was neat.
Lynn
I always remember encountering him first with a story about a mission on a
floating world to save an SF magazine's archives (but there's more going
on than the protag understands).. I really liked that.
I liked the bobble stories well enough, but wasn't really motivated
to seek him out.
Both _A Fire Upon the Deep_ and _A Deepness in the Sky_ are in my list of
absolute top Favorites. The novella _True Names_ is another Favorite, having
a large impact when I first read it (it was the first real introduction
of cyberspace.) All three of these fell into a rare category for me: books
that upon finishing my first reading demanded an immediate re-read.
Chris
I read and like all three. Out of those True Names is my favourite. RIP.
Cryptoengineer
2024-03-23 16:08:56 UTC
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Post by Chris Buckley
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/vernor-vinge-father-of-the-tech-singularity-has-died-at-age-79/
RIP.  I always thought his "Peace War" novels were his best works.  And
his "Rainbows End" book was neat.
Lynn
I always remember encountering him first with a story about a mission on a
floating world to save an SF magazine's archives (but there's more going
on than the protag understands)..  I really liked that.
I liked the bobble stories well enough, but wasn't really motivated
to seek him out.
Both _A Fire Upon the Deep_ and _A Deepness in the Sky_ are in my list of
absolute top Favorites.  The novella _True Names_ is another Favorite,
having
a large impact when I first read it (it was the first real introduction
books
that upon finishing my first reading demanded an immediate re-read.
Chris
I read and like all three. Out of those True Names is my favourite. RIP.
I was also blown away by True Names. At that time I was already deep
into Usenet, and its world seemed just around the corner.

AFUTD and ADITS were also great - I loved the idea of the Zones of
Thought.

The Zones were, to some extent, a mechanism to allow telling
human stories in a universe where Technological Singularities
were also possible. His essay on the Singularity made a very
deep impression on me when it came out.

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Lynn McGuire
2024-03-22 20:39:19 UTC
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Post by Chris Buckley
Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Post by Lynn McGuire
Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/vernor-vinge-father-of-the-tech-singularity-has-died-at-age-79/
RIP. I always thought his "Peace War" novels were his best works. And
his "Rainbows End" book was neat.
Lynn
I always remember encountering him first with a story about a mission on a
floating world to save an SF magazine's archives (but there's more going
on than the protag understands).. I really liked that.
I liked the bobble stories well enough, but wasn't really motivated
to seek him out.
Both _A Fire Upon the Deep_ and _A Deepness in the Sky_ are in my list of
absolute top Favorites. The novella _True Names_ is another Favorite, having
a large impact when I first read it (it was the first real introduction
of cyberspace.) All three of these fell into a rare category for me: books
that upon finishing my first reading demanded an immediate re-read.
Chris
Immediate rereads are incredibly rare for me. The only one I remember
is the first Murderbot book which I have read three times now.

However, I am contemplating my tenth read of "Mutineer's Moon". Sadly,
I do not keep a log so that number ten read is a pure SWAG (scientific
wild ass guess).

Lynn
Titus G
2024-03-29 04:59:02 UTC
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On 22/03/24 16:49, Chris Buckley wrote:
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Post by Chris Buckley
Both _A Fire Upon the Deep_ and _A Deepness in the Sky_ are in my list of
absolute top Favorites.
Same with me but book 3, The Children of The Sky, was just a 2 star OK.
The short stories that I read were mediocre or worse (Fast Times At...),
The Peace War series was good peaking with 4 star Marooned In Realtime
but the other 5 star book for me which hasn't been mentioned is Rainbows
End whose science may be dated already?
I have a copy but haven't yet read The Witling and probably won't read
Zones of Thought 4, After the Battle on Starship Hill.

The novella _True Names_ is another Favorite, having
Post by Chris Buckley
a large impact when I first read it (it was the first real introduction
of cyberspace.) All three of these fell into a rare category for me: books
that upon finishing my first reading demanded an immediate re-read.
Chris
William Hyde
2024-03-22 18:49:11 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
I bought his "Grimm's World" just before an unexpected hospitalization.
It provided a welcome and necessary distraction from unwelcome truths.

My alternative buy was Dish's "The Genocides". Which might have killed me.

William Hyde
Christian Weisgerber
2024-03-22 22:26:48 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
I saw him at one of the conferences organized by the Extropians,
some 25 years ago. He was a very influential author in transhumanist
circles.

Of his works, I have read:

* _The Peace War_
I'm sorry to say, but that one was forgettable, other than setting
up _Marooned in Realtime_.

* _Marooned in Realtime_
Takes an idea and runs with it. Thinking at a rare scale.
Disparate people use stasis fields to travel into a future of
ever accelerating human progress... until, at some point, humanity
is gone. Disappeared. Without a trace. The befuddled time
travelers leave each other messages and eventually meet up 50
million years from now. This is a story where people need to
consider geological events. IIRC, one character killed some time
by exploring the galaxy at STL speed. If I had something like
Lynn's six-star list, this book would feature prominently there.

* _A Fire Upon the Deep_
His magnum opus. An exuberant display of ideas.
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Robert Carnegie
2024-03-26 23:46:27 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
Was it news to me only that his name
is pronounced "Verner Vinjee"? Is it
in "About the Author"? I didn't think
of it until BBC radio started talking
about his work this last week or weekend -
I don't know which programme - but it
is in no real way a secret. Wikipedia
will say it on demand. Likewise, of
course, the former Mrs. Vinjee.
Tony Nance
2024-03-26 23:59:05 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
Was it news to me only that his name
is pronounced "Verner Vinjee"?  Is it
in "About the Author"?  I didn't think
of it until BBC radio started talking
about his work this last week or weekend -
I don't know which programme - but it
is in no real way a secret.  Wikipedia
will say it on demand.  Likewise, of
course, the former Mrs. Vinjee.
This is news to me as well - thank you for passing it along.[1]
Tony
[1] One place (of many) that supports that this is indeed his
pronunciation is the first question asked and answered at
https://reactormag.com/a-chat-with-vernor-vinge/
Paul S Person
2024-03-27 16:08:52 UTC
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 23:46:27 +0000, Robert Carnegie
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Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
Was it news to me only that his name
is pronounced "Verner Vinjee"? Is it
in "About the Author"? I didn't think
of it until BBC radio started talking
about his work this last week or weekend -
I don't know which programme - but it
is in no real way a secret. Wikipedia
will say it on demand. Likewise, of
course, the former Mrs. Vinjee.
That is news to me also, but, looking it up on Bing, it appears that
that is correct -- and the "ng" is pronounced as in "wing". I, being
ignorant, thought it rimed with "hinge".

Old Norse appears to be involved, which may or may not explain
anything.
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Cryptoengineer
2024-03-27 23:50:07 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 23:46:27 +0000, Robert Carnegie
Post by Robert Carnegie
Post by James Nicoll
SF author Vernor Vinge (1944 - 2024) is reported to have died, age 79.
Was it news to me only that his name
is pronounced "Verner Vinjee"? Is it
in "About the Author"? I didn't think
of it until BBC radio started talking
about his work this last week or weekend -
I don't know which programme - but it
is in no real way a secret. Wikipedia
will say it on demand. Likewise, of
course, the former Mrs. Vinjee.
That is news to me also, but, looking it up on Bing, it appears that
that is correct -- and the "ng" is pronounced as in "wing". I, being
ignorant, thought it rimed with "hinge".
I knew it: he once turned up a convention I attend
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