One of our own was mentioned

[BCFD 36]

I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of the
Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of those
who had passed away.

I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.

It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am not
sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't used to
be that way at all.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of the
Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of those
who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am not
sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't used to
be that way at all.

I think in the past to get acceptance many women wrote
under male names. But we had some very great female authors
from an relatively early time in the SF field.
I learned a great deal but did not find the story or the author
I wanted to praise.

Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein

The first science fiction story published in a magazine by a woman in
America was The Fate of the Poseidonia, written by Claire Winger Harris
in 1927. The story was published by Hugo Gernsback in the pulp magazine
Amazing Stories

Alice Bradley Sheldon adopted the name James Tiptree Jr

Marion Zimmer Bradley Andre Norton

Elizabeth Moon loved her series started with the Oath of Gerd.

Kate Wilhelm Ursula K. LeGuin

Sheri S. Tepper C. J. Cherryh

Margaret Atwood Octavia Butler

Connie Willis Andre Norton

Ursula K. LeGuin Joanna Russ

Zenna Henderson and her stories of the People

Who published afaik in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction
later collected into several books which I have not read. I found
her name by diligent online search on the Magazine.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=zenna+henderson+books&ia=web>

and newer stuff as well by

Seanan McGuire ` Lydia Sherre

Lindy Ryan Aubrey Wood

Linsay Sands Martha Wells

Hannah Fergesen Rachel Aaron

I got the last bit from my file of Book Reviews

bliss

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of
the Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of
those who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am
not sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't
used to be that way at all.

under male names. But we had some very great female authors
from an relatively early time in the SF field.
I learned a great deal but did not find the story or the author
I wanted to praise.
Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein
    The first science fiction story published in a magazine by a woman
in America was The Fate of the Poseidonia, written by Claire Winger
Harris in 1927. The story was published by Hugo Gernsback in the pulp
magazine Amazing Stories
Alice Bradley Sheldon adopted the name James Tiptree Jr
Marion Zimmer Bradley        Andre Norton
Elizabeth Moon loved her series started with the Oath of Gerd.
Kate Wilhelm        Ursula K. LeGuin
Sheri S. Tepper        C. J. Cherryh
Margaret Atwood        Octavia Butler
Connie Willis        Andre Norton
Ursula K. LeGuin    Joanna Russ
Zenna Henderson and her stories of the People
Who published afaik in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction
later collected into several books which I have not read. I found
her name by diligent online search on the Magazine.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=zenna+henderson+books&ia=web>
and newer stuff as well by
Seanan McGuire    `    Lydia Sherre
Lindy Ryan        Aubrey Wood
Linsay Sands        Martha Wells
Hannah Fergesen        Rachel Aaron
I got the last bit from my file of Book Reviews
bliss

I should have included since it is fantasy
the very long Series by Kim Harrison where the
creatures of the night have come out to save
the social organization of people on whom vampires
are dependent and Witch/Demon maybe Goddess Rachel
Morgan and her friends, enemies and pals. Some of
the old vampires are quite evil enough for horror
stories

Also Charlene Harris with her stories of the
telepathic Waitress and go between for vampires and
others, Sookie Stackhous.
She likes Vampires because she cannot
read their minds. Exactly why I did not like the
TV series made from this I cannot say. Harris
though is the author of several mystery series
sometime without supernatural powers but in
one series a young woman who can find dead
people and get information about them that the
crime lab cannot. Her brother is her helper.
I have read all the stories by Harris that I
can get my hands on.

bliss

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of
the Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of
those who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am
not sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't
used to be that way at all.

under male names. But we had some very great female authors
from an relatively early time in the SF field.
I learned a great deal but did not find the story or the author
I wanted to praise.
Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein
    The first science fiction story published in a magazine by a woman
in America was The Fate of the Poseidonia, written by Claire Winger
Harris in 1927. The story was published by Hugo Gernsback in the pulp
magazine Amazing Stories
Alice Bradley Sheldon adopted the name James Tiptree Jr
Marion Zimmer Bradley        Andre Norton
Elizabeth Moon loved her series started with the Oath of Gerd.
Kate Wilhelm        Ursula K. LeGuin
Sheri S. Tepper        C. J. Cherryh
Margaret Atwood        Octavia Butler
Connie Willis        Andre Norton
Ursula K. LeGuin    Joanna Russ
Zenna Henderson and her stories of the People
Who published afaik in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction
later collected into several books which I have not read. I found
her name by diligent online search on the Magazine.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=zenna+henderson+books&ia=web>
and newer stuff as well by
Seanan McGuire    `    Lydia Sherre
Lindy Ryan        Aubrey Wood
Linsay Sands        Martha Wells
Hannah Fergesen        Rachel Aaron
I got the last bit from my file of Book Reviews
bliss

Andre Norton was actually Alice Mary Norton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Norton

Other women who have won SF awards are:

Lois McMaster Bujold (4 Hugos !)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_McMaster_Bujold

Jo Walton (2 Hugos and many others)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Walton

Ilona Gordon (half of Ilona Andrews) (no awards but she should have a few)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Andrews

Kelly Armstrong (no awards but should have a few)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelley_Armstrong

Faith Hunter (no awards but should have a few)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Hunter

Lynn

[Paul S Person]

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 17:24:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of the
Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of those
who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am not
sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't used to
be that way at all.

under male names. But we had some very great female authors
from an relatively early time in the SF field.

More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

And not just authors. Female soldiers go back quite a ways too. It's
just that, relatively recently, they no longer had to pretend to be
men.

[The Horny Goat]

On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:08:44 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person
More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

On the other hand my 2 year old granddaughter has a pretty good chance
of seeing the 22nd Century :) (Me not so much)

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by The Horny Goat
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:08:44 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person
More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

You forget the US War of 1812 when the British Empire tried
to get back the former colonies and some of the Former Colonies tried
fruitlessly to annex Canada. Andrew Jackson's perfomance there in led
to the Presidency of the USA. He was a populist too which why he caused
the Trail of Tears of the Cherokee People.

Post by The Horny Goat
On the other hand my 2 year old granddaughter has a pretty good chance
of seeing the 22nd Century :) (Me not so much)

I hope she has a better and more peaceful century than the
one we left behind in the 20t hand the beginning of the 21st. I won't be
around for the 22nd Century myself (barring SF-like Medical Advances).

bliss

[The Horny Goat]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 22:44:51 -0700, Bobbie Sellers

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by The Horny Goat
200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

You forget the US War of 1812 when the British Empire tried
to get back the former colonies and some of the Former Colonies tried
fruitlessly to annex Canada. Andrew Jackson's perfomance there in led
to the Presidency of the USA. He was a populist too which why he caused
the Trail of Tears of the Cherokee People.

You mean the War of 1812 (1812-1815) WASN'T in the period 1789-1815?

No question the War of 1812 was a sideshow compared to Napoleon's
efforts but it was definitely in that time period just as the US Civil
War was in the period 1864-1871 (partly)

I would consider the Mexican war of 1847-48 relatively small in
comparison to all the other ones cited. And obviously I do have
_somewhat_ of an idea of the US "Indian Wars" as well as knowing where
Sitting Bull died (e.g. not in the United States)

[The Horny Goat]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 22:44:51 -0700, Bobbie Sellers

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by The Horny Goat
On the other hand my 2 year old granddaughter has a pretty good chance
of seeing the 22nd Century :) (Me not so much)

I hope she has a better and more peaceful century than the
one we left behind in the 20t hand the beginning of the 21st. I won't be
around for the 22nd Century myself (barring SF-like Medical Advances).

It would be lovely though like you I don't expect to see it either.

I've had a number of people ask me how long I'd like to live and my
usual answer is 300 years which either ends the conversation cold or
leads to a completely different and interesting chat.

[Paul S Person]

Post by The Horny Goat
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:08:44 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person
More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

So, you are saying there were /no female writers using male
pseudonyms/ in 1824? Or before?

Or is it the women-disguised-as-men becoming soldiers that you are
seeking to deny? IIRC, there were a few in the (USA) Civil War.

I would mention Mulan, but she appears to be legendary rather than
historical.

Post by The Horny Goat
On the other hand my 2 year old granddaughter has a pretty good chance
of seeing the 22nd Century :) (Me not so much)

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:08:44 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person
More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

So, you are saying there were /no female writers using male
pseudonyms/ in 1824? Or before?

George Sand has entered the chat.

pt

[Paul S Person]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:16:44 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:08:44 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person
More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

So, you are saying there were /no female writers using male
pseudonyms/ in 1824? Or before?

George Sand has entered the chat.

Oh great! Another 18th Century French Author I should probably read,
as I probably will Verne (at least I can count him as an SF author!).
I will make a note. But I may take a break with something else first.
Perhaps the Well of Souls series.

Note: I recall hearing about George Sand, and may even have heard that
she was a woman, but she was not in my mind when I made my assertion
above.

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Paul S Person
On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:16:44 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:08:44 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person
More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

So, you are saying there were /no female writers using male
pseudonyms/ in 1824? Or before?

George Sand has entered the chat.

Oh great! Another 18th Century French Author I should probably read,
as I probably will Verne (at least I can count him as an SF author!).
I will make a note. But I may take a break with something else first.
Perhaps the Well of Souls series.
Note: I recall hearing about George Sand, and may even have heard that
she was a woman, but she was not in my mind when I made my assertion
above.

Not only did she use a male name, she wore men's clothes (which
required a license). I have no knowledge of her preferences in
partners, or her (modern usage) 'gender'.

pt

[Paul S Person]

On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 12:58:23 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Paul S Person
On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:16:44 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 09:08:44 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person
More generally, this goes back at least 200 years (ie, to the 19th
century) and quite likely before.

200 years ago would be 1824 which was dominated by 1789-1815 (e.g. the
Napoleonic wars) and relatively quiet at least till Prussia's wars
1864-1871.

So, you are saying there were /no female writers using male
pseudonyms/ in 1824? Or before?

George Sand has entered the chat.

Oh great! Another 18th Century French Author I should probably read,
as I probably will Verne (at least I can count him as an SF author!).
I will make a note. But I may take a break with something else first.
Perhaps the Well of Souls series.
Note: I recall hearing about George Sand, and may even have heard that
she was a woman, but she was not in my mind when I made my assertion
above.

Not only did she use a male name, she wore men's clothes (which
required a license). I have no knowledge of her preferences in
partners, or her (modern usage) 'gender'.

Simply /having/ a license for such a purpose was probably considered
the height of tolerance at the time.

And a lot better than burning her as a witch or sticking her into an
institution as insane.

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of the
Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of those
who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am not
sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't used to
be that way at all.

I have not seen Hal around here in months. Hopefully he is lurking and
not ill.

Lynn

[Jay E. Morris]

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of
the Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of
those who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am
not sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't
used to be that way at all.

I have not seen Hal around here in months.  Hopefully he is lurking and
not ill.
Lynn

He's been posting in fandom.

[Paul S Person]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:03:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"

Post by Jay E. Morris

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of
the Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of
those who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am
not sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't
used to be that way at all.

I have not seen Hal around here in months.  Hopefully he is lurking and
not ill.
Lynn

He's been posting in fandom.

Perhaps he got bored by all the on-topic stuff.

Or appalled by the off-topic stuff.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by BCFD 36
I recently received the 2023 version of The Best Science Fiction of the
Year by Neil Clarke. Our very own Dorthy was mentioned as one of those
who had passed away.
I have found a couple of stories I liked so far.
It is interesting that just about 50%, or maybe even more since I am not
sure of some of the names, of the authors are women. It didn't used to
be that way at all.

No it did not used to be that way at all. Women used to have to hide
their gender in order to get published. But it aint that way no
more.
Thank time, intention, chance for that.

bliss - who once upon a time was young but got over that.