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Cryptoengineer
2024-10-03 00:14:32 UTC
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Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.

James, will you be reviewing this?

pt
James Nicoll
2024-10-03 00:27:16 UTC
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Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
If someone pays me to, and only after I tackle the first two.
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Titus G
2024-10-03 03:20:11 UTC
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Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
pt
I will scream whilst I still have a mouth, (tick tock tick tock), that
as the stories have not been previously published, then the older ones
are likely to have been not judged worthy.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2024-10-03 04:26:45 UTC
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Post by Cryptoengineer
Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
pt
I will scream whilst I still have a mouth, (tick tock tick tock), that
as the stories have not been previously published, then the older ones
are likely to have been not judged worthy.
Interesting. Here is the toc from ISFDB:

==
The Last Dangerous Visions -- interior artwork by Tim Kirk
xi -- A Brief Introduction to The Last Dangerous Visions - essay
by J. Michael Straczynski
1 -- Ellison Exegesis - essay by J. Michael Straczynski
59 -- Assignment No. 1 - short story by Stephen Robinett
71 -- Hunger - short story by Max Brooks
83 -- Intermezzo 1: Broken, Beautiful Body on Beach - short story
by D. M. Rowles
87 -- None So Deaf - short story by Richard E. Peck
95 -- Introduction to Ed Bryant's "War Stories" - essay by Harlan Ellison
99 -- War Stories - novelette by Edward Bryant
127 -- Intermezzo 2: Bedtime Story - short story by D. M. Rowles
129 -- The Great Forest Lawn Clearance Sale--Hurry, Last Days! - short story
by Stephen Dedman
143 -- Intermezzo 3: Even Beyond Olympus - short story by D. M. Rowles
145 -- After Taste - novelette by Cecil Castellucci
171 -- Leveled Best - short story by Steve Herbst
177 -- The Time of the Skin - short story by A. E. van Vogt
197 -- Rundown - short story by John Morressy
203 -- Intermezzo 4: Elemental - short story by D. M. Rowles
205 -- The Weight of a Feather (The Weight of a Heart) - novelette
by Cory Doctorow
237 -- The Malibu Fault - short story by Jonathan Fast
245 -- The Size of the Problem - short story by Howard Fast
251 -- Intermezzo 5: First Contact - short story by D. M. Rowles
253 -- A Night at the Opera - short story by Robert Wissner
263 -- Goodbye - short story by Steven Utley
271 -- Primordial Follies - short story by Robert Sheckley
285 -- Men in White - short story by David Brin
287 -- Intermezzo 6: Continuity - short story by D. M. Rowles
289 -- The Final Pogrom - novelette by Dan Simmons
315 -- Intermezzo 7: The Space Behind the Obvious - short story by D. M. Rowles
317 -- Falling from Grace - short story by Ward Moore
333 -- First Sight - short story by Adrian Tchaikovsky
351 -- Intermezzo 8: Proof - short story by D. M. Rowles
355 -- Binary System - short story by Kayo Hartenbaum
369 -- Dark Threshold - short story by P. C. Hodgell
377 -- The Danann Children Laugh - short story by Mildred Downey Broxon
395 -- Judas Iscariot Didn't Kill Himself: A Story in Fragments - short story
by Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck [as by James S. A. Corey]
415 -- Afterword: Tetelestai! Compiling The Last Dangerous Visions - essay
by J. Michael Straczynski
==

I wouldn't mind reading the van Vogt.
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Tony Nance
2024-10-03 20:51:34 UTC
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Post by Titus G
Post by Cryptoengineer
Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
pt
I will scream whilst I still have a mouth, (tick tock tick tock), that
as the stories have not been previously published, then the older ones
are likely to have been not judged worthy.
==
The Last Dangerous Visions -- interior artwork by Tim Kirk
xi -- A Brief Introduction to The Last Dangerous Visions - essay
by J. Michael Straczynski
1 -- Ellison Exegesis - essay by J. Michael Straczynski
59 -- Assignment No. 1 - short story by Stephen Robinett
71 -- Hunger - short story by Max Brooks
83 -- Intermezzo 1: Broken, Beautiful Body on Beach - short story
by D. M. Rowles
87 -- None So Deaf - short story by Richard E. Peck
95 -- Introduction to Ed Bryant's "War Stories" - essay by Harlan Ellison
99 -- War Stories - novelette by Edward Bryant
127 -- Intermezzo 2: Bedtime Story - short story by D. M. Rowles
129 -- The Great Forest Lawn Clearance Sale--Hurry, Last Days! - short story
by Stephen Dedman
143 -- Intermezzo 3: Even Beyond Olympus - short story by D. M. Rowles
145 -- After Taste - novelette by Cecil Castellucci
171 -- Leveled Best - short story by Steve Herbst
177 -- The Time of the Skin - short story by A. E. van Vogt
197 -- Rundown - short story by John Morressy
203 -- Intermezzo 4: Elemental - short story by D. M. Rowles
205 -- The Weight of a Feather (The Weight of a Heart) - novelette
by Cory Doctorow
237 -- The Malibu Fault - short story by Jonathan Fast
245 -- The Size of the Problem - short story by Howard Fast
251 -- Intermezzo 5: First Contact - short story by D. M. Rowles
253 -- A Night at the Opera - short story by Robert Wissner
263 -- Goodbye - short story by Steven Utley
271 -- Primordial Follies - short story by Robert Sheckley
285 -- Men in White - short story by David Brin
287 -- Intermezzo 6: Continuity - short story by D. M. Rowles
289 -- The Final Pogrom - novelette by Dan Simmons
315 -- Intermezzo 7: The Space Behind the Obvious - short story by D. M. Rowles
317 -- Falling from Grace - short story by Ward Moore
333 -- First Sight - short story by Adrian Tchaikovsky
351 -- Intermezzo 8: Proof - short story by D. M. Rowles
355 -- Binary System - short story by Kayo Hartenbaum
369 -- Dark Threshold - short story by P. C. Hodgell
377 -- The Danann Children Laugh - short story by Mildred Downey Broxon
395 -- Judas Iscariot Didn't Kill Himself: A Story in Fragments - short story
by Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck [as by James S. A. Corey]
415 -- Afterword: Tetelestai! Compiling The Last Dangerous Visions - essay
by J. Michael Straczynski
==
I wouldn't mind reading the van Vogt.
There's a very interesting summary here of stories that
could/would/should have been, as well as what is actually in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Dangerous_Visions

Tony
Don
2024-10-10 03:59:38 UTC
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Post by Cryptoengineer
Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
... One can see there's nothing dangerous to the establishment
at all about Last Dangerous Visions. It's much like seeing
a Rage Against The Machine tour sponsored by Capital One. ...

... A real successor, Forbidden Thoughts, came out in 2017
featuring authors one might consider dangerous to mainstream
publications Milo Yiannopoulos, Nick Cole, Larry Correia,
Vox Day, and more. If Straczynski had truly wanted to follow
Harlan Ellison's rebellious legacy, he would have included
at least one writer of dissenting opinion. But in 2024, no
real dangerous visions are allowed in publishing. It seems
1984 has become reality. ....

<https://fandompulse.substack.com/p/j-michael-stracyznski-turns-harlan>

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Paul S Person
2024-10-10 15:41:15 UTC
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Post by Cryptoengineer
Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
... One can see there's nothing dangerous to the establishment
at all about Last Dangerous Visions. It's much like seeing
a Rage Against The Machine tour sponsored by Capital One. ...
... A real successor, Forbidden Thoughts, came out in 2017
featuring authors one might consider dangerous to mainstream
publications Milo Yiannopoulos, Nick Cole, Larry Correia,
Vox Day, and more. If Straczynski had truly wanted to follow
Harlan Ellison's rebellious legacy, he would have included
at least one writer of dissenting opinion. But in 2024, no
real dangerous visions are allowed in publishing. It seems
1984 has become reality. ....
<https://fandompulse.substack.com/p/j-michael-stracyznski-turns-harlan>
I found the original to be ... what a sane person would expect:
nothing really daring, just people who thought they were.
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James Nicoll
2024-10-10 15:56:06 UTC
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Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
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nothing really daring, just people who thought they were.
DV is up for review by the end of November. Don't think I've read it
since Joe Clark was PM. Pretty sure my memories of DV are mixed up
with A,DV.
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Paul S Person
2024-10-11 15:23:41 UTC
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Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
was published), but have not read it yet.
James, will you be reviewing this?
snip
Post by Paul S Person
nothing really daring, just people who thought they were.
DV is up for review by the end of November. Don't think I've read it
since Joe Clark was PM. Pretty sure my memories of DV are mixed up
with A,DV.
Don't forget to notice the obligatory anti-religion story.

Which, since it was expected, and quite ordinary, cannot have been
daring.

The same could be said of the obligatory stories with sex in them.
What can one say to such things, except "Ah, Salieri!" while yawning.

This could simply be a matter of timing: that is, at least some of the
stories could have been daring but, by the time it was published, had
become, if not common, at least not rare.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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