"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein

[Lynn McGuire]

"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/

A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book. I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback. The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid. The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957. Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down. Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.

One of my top ten favorite books of all time. This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.

The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military. It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to. Interesting decision. For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy

Jo Walton's much better review is at:
https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/

My rating: 6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

Lynn

[Don]

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book. I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback. The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid. The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957. Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down. Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time. This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military. It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to. Interesting decision. For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating: 6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

Rhetorical questions follow (eg no followup necessary).

Do you remember how, at first, Ackerman assumed an adolescent audience
and targeted translations to it? Only later did he discover the vast
number of adults who read _Perry Rhodan_. It turns out the same story's
shared by Young Adult fiction:

According to the American Book Publishers, eBooks sales of
YA increased by a massive 53% [in 2020]. This is particularly
interesting, as studies suggest teenagers (the alleged 'core
market' for YA) do not read eBooks as much as adults. This
therefore indicates that the current audience of YA Fiction
is mostly comprised of adults.

<https://web.archive.org/web/20210228124802/https://writersedit.com/fiction-writing/sydney-writers-festival-rise-rise-young-adult-fiction/>

# # #

_Higgs Fake How Particle Physicists Fooled the Nobel Committee_ is about
played out on my mp3 player. Thank God! It's depressing to realize how
much stupid you must internalize in order to feed at gooberment's
Byzantine trough.

Anyhow, _Citizen_'s appears at the number two position on your list. It
was last read by me when James reviewed it about a decade ago. It's just
the tonic to help me escape gooberment induced funk!

And why not listen to your number one pick, _Rogue Moon_, afterward?
It's been on my To Be Heard list for about a decade.

Danke,

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by Don

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book. I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback. The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid. The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957. Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down. Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time. This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military. It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to. Interesting decision. For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating: 6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

Rhetorical questions follow (eg no followup necessary).
Do you remember how, at first, Ackerman assumed an adolescent audience
and targeted translations to it? Only later did he discover the vast
number of adults who read _Perry Rhodan_. It turns out the same story's
According to the American Book Publishers, eBooks sales of
YA increased by a massive 53% [in 2020]. This is particularly
interesting, as studies suggest teenagers (the alleged 'core
market' for YA) do not read eBooks as much as adults. This
therefore indicates that the current audience of YA Fiction
is mostly comprised of adults.
<https://web.archive.org/web/20210228124802/https://writersedit.com/fiction-writing/sydney-writers-festival-rise-rise-young-adult-fiction/>
# # #

I'm not sure current teenagers read, period. Certainly the two I know best
do not. (Nothing longer than a text anyway, but true, a lot of those)

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Don

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book. I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback. The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid. The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957. Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down. Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time. This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military. It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to. Interesting decision. For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating: 6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

Rhetorical questions follow (eg no followup necessary).
Do you remember how, at first, Ackerman assumed an adolescent audience
and targeted translations to it? Only later did he discover the vast
number of adults who read _Perry Rhodan_. It turns out the same story's
According to the American Book Publishers, eBooks sales of
YA increased by a massive 53% [in 2020]. This is particularly
interesting, as studies suggest teenagers (the alleged 'core
market' for YA) do not read eBooks as much as adults. This
therefore indicates that the current audience of YA Fiction
is mostly comprised of adults.
<https://web.archive.org/web/20210228124802/https://writersedit.com/fiction-writing/sydney-writers-festival-rise-rise-young-adult-fiction/>
# # #
_Higgs Fake How Particle Physicists Fooled the Nobel Committee_ is about
played out on my mp3 player. Thank God! It's depressing to realize how
much stupid you must internalize in order to feed at gooberment's
Byzantine trough.
Anyhow, _Citizen_'s appears at the number two position on your list. It
was last read by me when James reviewed it about a decade ago. It's just
the tonic to help me escape gooberment induced funk!
And why not listen to your number one pick, _Rogue Moon_, afterward?
It's been on my To Be Heard list for about a decade.
Danke,

Did you mean "Mutineer's Moon" ? That is on my short reread list, ie,
my nightstand.

Lynn

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Don

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
    https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.  I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback.  The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid.  The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957.  Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down.  Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time.  This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military.  It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to.  Interesting decision.  For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
    https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating:  6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating:  4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

Rhetorical questions follow (eg no followup necessary).
Do you remember how, at first, Ackerman assumed an adolescent audience
and targeted translations to it? Only later did he discover the vast
number of adults who read _Perry Rhodan_. It turns out the same story's
     According to the American Book Publishers, eBooks sales of
     YA increased by a massive 53% [in 2020]. This is particularly
     interesting, as studies suggest teenagers (the alleged 'core
     market' for YA) do not read eBooks as much as adults. This
     therefore indicates that the current audience of YA Fiction
     is mostly comprised of adults.
<https://web.archive.org/web/20210228124802/https://writersedit.com/fiction-writing/sydney-writers-festival-rise-rise-young-adult-fiction/>
# # #
_Higgs Fake How Particle Physicists Fooled the Nobel Committee_ is about
played out on my mp3 player. Thank God! It's depressing to realize how
much stupid you must internalize in order to feed at gooberment's
Byzantine trough.
Anyhow, _Citizen_'s appears at the number two position on your list. It
was last read by me when James reviewed it about a decade ago. It's just
the tonic to help me escape gooberment induced funk!
And why not listen to your number one pick, _Rogue Moon_, afterward?
It's been on my To Be Heard list for about a decade.
Danke,

Did you mean "Mutineer's Moon" ?  That is on my short reread list, ie,
my nightstand.

More probably 'Rogue Moon', by Algis Budrys, in 1960.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_Moon

pt

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by Don

Post by Don

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
    https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.  I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback.  The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid.  The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957.  Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down.  Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time.  This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military.  It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to.  Interesting decision.  For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
    https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating:  6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating:  4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

Rhetorical questions follow (eg no followup necessary).
Do you remember how, at first, Ackerman assumed an adolescent audience
and targeted translations to it? Only later did he discover the vast
number of adults who read _Perry Rhodan_. It turns out the same story's
     According to the American Book Publishers, eBooks sales of
     YA increased by a massive 53% [in 2020]. This is particularly
     interesting, as studies suggest teenagers (the alleged 'core
     market' for YA) do not read eBooks as much as adults. This
     therefore indicates that the current audience of YA Fiction
     is mostly comprised of adults.

<https://web.archive.org/web/20210228124802/https://writersedit.com/fiction-writing/sydney-writers-festival-rise-rise-young-adult-fiction/>

Post by Don
# # #
_Higgs Fake How Particle Physicists Fooled the Nobel Committee_ is about
played out on my mp3 player. Thank God! It's depressing to realize how
much stupid you must internalize in order to feed at gooberment's
Byzantine trough.
Anyhow, _Citizen_'s appears at the number two position on your list. It
was last read by me when James reviewed it about a decade ago. It's just
the tonic to help me escape gooberment induced funk!
And why not listen to your number one pick, _Rogue Moon_, afterward?
It's been on my To Be Heard list for about a decade.
Danke,

Did you mean "Mutineer's Moon" ?  That is on my short reread list, ie,
my nightstand.

More probably 'Rogue Moon', by Algis Budrys, in 1960.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_Moon
pt

Well, this is about Lynn's list, so it's almost certainly the Weber.

However, I probably should re-read the Budrys at some point..

[Don]

Lynn McGuire wrote:
Don wrote:

<snip>

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Don
And why not listen to your number one pick, _Rogue Moon_, afterward?
It's been on my To Be Heard list for about a decade.

Did you mean "Mutineer's Moon" ? That is on my short reread list, ie,
my nightstand.

Yes. My mistake. _Mutineer's Moon_ (not _Rogue Moon_) tops your list.

Danke,

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Don
<snip>

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Don
And why not listen to your number one pick, _Rogue Moon_, afterward?
It's been on my To Be Heard list for about a decade.

Did you mean "Mutineer's Moon" ? That is on my short reread list, ie,
my nightstand.

Yes. My mistake. _Mutineer's Moon_ (not _Rogue Moon_) tops your list.
Danke,

I hope to get Mutineer's Moon read again in 2024. I last read it in
2021. I also want to reread Red Thunder by John Varley.

I am reading three books right now, the sixth Soulwood book by Faith
Hunter, the Children Of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky, and the original
Worm by Wildbow (stuck again).

Lynn

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by Don

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book. I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback. The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid. The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957. Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down. Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time. This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military. It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to. Interesting decision. For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating: 6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

Rhetorical questions follow (eg no followup necessary).
Do you remember how, at first, Ackerman assumed an adolescent audience
and targeted translations to it? Only later did he discover the vast
number of adults who read _Perry Rhodan_. It turns out the same story's

I recall that. He shared a letter castigating him for signing the
editorials "Your Hyper-Pal", or something like that.

However, he apparently wasn't alone. As I recall, Wollheim started the
"Cap Kennedy" juveniles at DAW to compete with Ackerman's Perry franchaise.
I still wish those hadn't kind of tapered off, as there were a lot of
things unresolved.

[Don]

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book. I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback. The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid. The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957. Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down. Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time. This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military. It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to. Interesting decision. For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating: 6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

"There's a time and place for everything." appears in the denouement, as
the story's fourth to last line of the story. It brings to mind Ecclesiastes.
As mentioned previously, part of my Lenten observance is to study
Ecclesiastes:

5:19 For they will hardly dwell on the shortness of life,
because God lets them busy themselves with the joy of
their heart.*

...

* [5:19] The joys of life, though temporary and never
assured, keep one from dwelling on the ills which afflict
humanity.

<https://bible.usccb.org/bible/ecclesiastes/5?19=#25005019>

One of the joys in my life is to read a comprehensive review after a
story's finished. Here's a deep dive dissection, a feast free for the
taking:

<https://www.heinleinsociety.org/citizen-of-the-galaxy-review/>

Although all of the reviews ignore her, anthropologist Dr Margaret
Mader's a memorable character to me. She's obviously Heinlein's
analog to Margaret Mead.

Thank you Lynn for reminding me of how highly Heinlein's esteemed.
He's earned enough esteem for an entire society to be created in his
honor.

Danke,

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Don

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book. I reread my
used 1986 MMPB copy that somebody converted into a hardback. The font
is kinda small but the after market Demco binding was solid. The book
was first published as a hardback by Scribner in 1957. Warning, the
story moves quickly and is very hard to put down. Good luck on getting
a new dead tree MMPB or trade paperback as the book is out of print again.
One of my top ten favorite books of all time. This book just pushes all
my buttons: space opera, thousands of occupied planets, the free traders
spaceships, military sf, well thought out space aliens, a rich and
infinite universe, a likable protagonist, great mentors, good people
making tough and good decisions, FTL spaceships, air cars, the 3,000+
light year Terran Hegemony sphere, etc, etc, etc.
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military. It was
originally serialized in Astounding magazine in three issues in 1957.
Heinlein could have easily made this book into a long series but chose
not to. Interesting decision. For instance, did Leda and Thorby get
married ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_of_the_Galaxy
https://reactormag.com/citizengalaxy/
My rating: 6 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.7 out of 5 stars (1,419 reviews)

"There's a time and place for everything." appears in the denouement, as
the story's fourth to last line of the story. It brings to mind Ecclesiastes.
As mentioned previously, part of my Lenten observance is to study
5:19 For they will hardly dwell on the shortness of life,
because God lets them busy themselves with the joy of
their heart.*
...
* [5:19] The joys of life, though temporary and never
assured, keep one from dwelling on the ills which afflict
humanity.
<https://bible.usccb.org/bible/ecclesiastes/5?19=#25005019>
One of the joys in my life is to read a comprehensive review after a
story's finished. Here's a deep dive dissection, a feast free for the
<https://www.heinleinsociety.org/citizen-of-the-galaxy-review/>
Although all of the reviews ignore her, anthropologist Dr Margaret
Mader's a memorable character to me. She's obviously Heinlein's
analog to Margaret Mead.
Thank you Lynn for reminding me of how highly Heinlein's esteemed.
He's earned enough esteem for an entire society to be created in his
honor.
Danke,

You are welcome !

Lynn

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Don
"There's a time and place for everything." appears in the denouement, as
the story's fourth to last line of the story. It brings to mind Ecclesiastes.
As mentioned previously, part of my Lenten observance is to study
5:19 For they will hardly dwell on the shortness of life,
because God lets them busy themselves with the joy of

Wouldn't Ec 3:1 be a closer match to that line?

For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Don
"There's a time and place for everything." appears in the denouement, as
the story's fourth to last line of the story. It brings to mind Ecclesiastes.
As mentioned previously, part of my Lenten observance is to study
5:19 For they will hardly dwell on the shortness of life,
because God lets them busy themselves with the joy of

Wouldn't Ec 3:1 be a closer match to that line?
For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven

Best stated in Byrds 3:34

[Don]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Don
"There's a time and place for everything." appears in the denouement, as
the story's fourth to last line of the story. It brings to mind Ecclesiastes.
As mentioned previously, part of my Lenten observance is to study
5:19 For they will hardly dwell on the shortness of life,
because God lets them busy themselves with the joy of

Wouldn't Ec 3:1 be a closer match to that line?
For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven

Yes indeed, Ec 3:1 is a more meaningful match. Ec 5:19 is presented as
an add-on, an antithesis, a tonic to this:

Our national pastime isn't baseball. It's what the Bible calls
"condemning the world." We generally enjoy pronouncing curses
upon those whom we see as trouble, wrong, or evil. Don't
believe me? Listen to almost any podcast, cable news network,
or social media platform to hear it. It will be some version
of: "We all agree that if they are eradicated, things will be
great." Condemning is almost always clothed in virtue. It
basks in its good intentions. That's why it is so attractive.
Condemning seems like our best path to saving what is good.

What a shock, then, to hear Jesus announce: "For God did not
send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that
the world might be saved through him" (Jn 3:17). He comes to
save the world, as we all want, but he will accomplish it
without an act of condemnation. How hard it is to accept this!
Condemning feels godlike. I judge who and what must be lost
to protect the good. But in the light of Jesus' endless mercy
and love, this is the least godlike thing we can do.

Lenten challenge: This week, I invite you to give up the
delicious experience of condemning whomever in the world
you most would like to see gone. Perhaps write down their
names. Secondly, I invite you to consider fasting from any
media that feeds the tasty but deadly tendency to condemn.

- Father John Muir

Danke,

--
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telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
   https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.

Weren't all of Heinlein's juveniles stand-alone?

Post by Lynn McGuire
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military.

The cover of my copy[1] led to a nice discussion about social justice
and inequality with my then roughly ten-year-old son.

I got a bit of whiplash with the transition from "trader" to "heir
to a major commercial combine". (Still a great story.)

Post by Lynn McGuire
    For instance, did Leda and Thorby get married ?

It's been a long time, but my recollection is that, at the end,
she told him that their different (socio-economic) worlds meant
that they had no future together.


[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420954>

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
   https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.

Weren't all of Heinlein's juveniles stand-alone?

Post by Lynn McGuire
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military.

The cover of my copy[1] led to a nice discussion about social justice
and inequality with my then roughly ten-year-old son.
I got a bit of whiplash with the transition from "trader" to "heir
to a major commercial combine". (Still a great story.)

Post by Lynn McGuire
    For instance, did Leda and Thorby get married ?

It's been a long time, but my recollection is that, at the end,
she told him that their different (socio-economic) worlds meant
that they had no future together.

Do hospitals still record footprints for newborns?

[Don]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
   https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.

Weren't all of Heinlein's juveniles stand-alone?

Post by Lynn McGuire
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military.

The cover of my copy[1] led to a nice discussion about social justice
and inequality with my then roughly ten-year-old son.
I got a bit of whiplash with the transition from "trader" to "heir
to a major commercial combine". (Still a great story.)

Post by Lynn McGuire
    For instance, did Leda and Thorby get married ?

It's been a long time, but my recollection is that, at the end,
she told him that their different (socio-economic) worlds meant
that they had no future together.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420954>

The breakneck speed of the story's social climb, from slave to supreme
chief, can indeed induce whiplash. Heinlein atones for it with a healthy
dose of skepticism about the end of slavery. He views slavery as endemic
to humanity.

Searchable epubs bring me joy!

Leda's pride leaves a little wiggle room in marriage matters:

[Leda] said, "Thor, you know that Daddy has been throwing me
at you?"

"Huh?"

"I don’t see how you could miss it. Unless you are utterly -
but then, perhaps you are. Just take it as true. It’s one of
those obvious marriages that everyone is enthusiastic about …
except maybe the two most concerned."

Thorby forgot his worries in the face of this amazing statement
"You mean … well, uh, that you -" He trailed off.

"Heavens, dear! If I intended to go through with it, would I
have told you anything? Oh, I admit I promised, before you
arrived, to consider it. But you never warmed to the idea -
and I’m too proud to be willing under those circumstances even
if the preservation of Rudbek depended on it Now what’s this
about Daddy not letting you see the proxies that Martha and
Creighton gave him?"

During the denouement, a little later, lost in thought, Thorby thinks:

He didn’t even pick up the top item this time; he simply sat in
thought. Good girl, Leda … she had even tried to help in the
business - until it had become clear that business was not her
forte. But she was one bright spot in the gloom; she always
bucked him up. If it wasn’t patently unfair for a Guardsman to
marry - But he couldn’t be that unfair to Leda and he had no
reason to think she would be willing anyhow.

This story screams for a sequel.

Danke,

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Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Lynn McGuire
    For instance, did Leda and Thorby get married ?

It's been a long time, but my recollection is that, at the end,
she told him that their different (socio-economic) worlds meant
that they had no future together.

Searchable epubs bring me joy!
[Leda] said, "Thor, you know that Daddy has been throwing me
at you?"
"Huh?"
"I don’t see how you could miss it. Unless you are utterly -
but then, perhaps you are. Just take it as true. It’s one of
those obvious marriages that everyone is enthusiastic about …
except maybe the two most concerned."
Thorby forgot his worries in the face of this amazing statement
"You mean … well, uh, that you -" He trailed off.
"Heavens, dear! If I intended to go through with it, would I
have told you anything? Oh, I admit I promised, before you
arrived, to consider it. But you never warmed to the idea -
and I’m too proud to be willing under those circumstances even
if the preservation of Rudbek depended on it Now what’s this
about Daddy not letting you see the proxies that Martha and
Creighton gave him?"
He didn’t even pick up the top item this time; he simply sat in
thought. Good girl, Leda … she had even tried to help in the
business - until it had become clear that business was not her
forte. But she was one bright spot in the gloom; she always
bucked him up. If it wasn’t patently unfair for a Guardsman to
marry - But he couldn’t be that unfair to Leda and he had no
reason to think she would be willing anyhow.

I seem to have misremembered, then.

[James Nicoll]

Post by Don

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
   https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.

Weren't all of Heinlein's juveniles stand-alone?

Post by Lynn McGuire
The book is really three books in one: slave, trader, military.

The cover of my copy[1] led to a nice discussion about social justice
and inequality with my then roughly ten-year-old son.
I got a bit of whiplash with the transition from "trader" to "heir
to a major commercial combine". (Still a great story.)

Post by Lynn McGuire
    For instance, did Leda and Thorby get married ?

It's been a long time, but my recollection is that, at the end,
she told him that their different (socio-economic) worlds meant
that they had no future together.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?420954>

The breakneck speed of the story's social climb, from slave to supreme
chief, can indeed induce whiplash. Heinlein atones for it with a healthy
dose of skepticism about the end of slavery. He views slavery as endemic
to humanity.
Searchable epubs bring me joy!
[Leda] said, "Thor, you know that Daddy has been throwing me
at you?"
"Huh?"
"I don’t see how you could miss it. Unless you are utterly -
but then, perhaps you are. Just take it as true. It’s one of
those obvious marriages that everyone is enthusiastic about 

except maybe the two most concerned."
Thorby forgot his worries in the face of this amazing statement
"You mean 
 well, uh, that you -" He trailed off.
"Heavens, dear! If I intended to go through with it, would I
have told you anything? Oh, I admit I promised, before you
arrived, to consider it. But you never warmed to the idea -
and I’m too proud to be willing under those circumstances even
if the preservation of Rudbek depended on it Now what’s this
about Daddy not letting you see the proxies that Martha and
Creighton gave him?"
He didn’t even pick up the top item this time; he simply sat in
thought. Good girl, Leda 
 she had even tried to help in the
business - until it had become clear that business was not her
forte. But she was one bright spot in the gloom; she always
bucked him up. If it wasn’t patently unfair for a Guardsman to
marry - But he couldn’t be that unfair to Leda and he had no
reason to think she would be willing anyhow.
This story screams for a sequel.

Thorby has a talent for being wrong about his future so if there's
one thing we know about his future it is that he walks out of the room
he is in into a chapel where he is immediately married to Leda.

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
    https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.

Weren't all of Heinlein's juveniles stand-alone?

...

Grandma Hazel in "The Rolling Stones" was young Hazel in TMIAHM who was
throwing rocks at the sentry soldiers.

I don't know of any others offhand but I am sure there are more.

BTW, it is my practice in reviews to declare if a book is a standalone
or a member of series.

Lynn

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
    https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.

Weren't all of Heinlein's juveniles stand-alone?

...
Grandma Hazel in "The Rolling Stones" was young Hazel in TMIAHM who was
throwing rocks at the sentry soldiers.
I don't know of any others offhand but I am sure there are more.
BTW, it is my practice in reviews to declare if a book is a standalone
or a member of series.
Lynn

_Red Planet_ seems to be related to SIASL, and I think maybe _Space Cadet_.

[Jerry Brown]

Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Lynn McGuire
"Citizen of the Galaxy" by Robert A. Heinlein
    https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/
A standalone Young Adult "juvenile" science fiction book.

Weren't all of Heinlein's juveniles stand-alone?

...
Grandma Hazel in "The Rolling Stones" was young Hazel in TMIAHM who was
throwing rocks at the sentry soldiers.
I don't know of any others offhand but I am sure there are more.
BTW, it is my practice in reviews to declare if a book is a standalone
or a member of series.
Lynn

_Red Planet_ seems to be related to SIASL, and I think maybe _Space Cadet_.

The names "Ortega", "Horst" and "Conrad" pop up more than once in
connection with spacecraft engines across otherwise unconnected books.