(ReacTor) Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs

[James Nicoll]

Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs

From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.

https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

Zero for five here.

What, no "Jurassic Park" by Michael Crichton ? The book that has had
tens of millions of copies sold and singly inspired the Jurassic Park
and Jurassic World movies ?

https://www.amazon.com/Jurassic-Park-Novel-Michael-Crichton/dp/0345538986/

Lynn

[Tony Nance]

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

Zero for five here.

You sure you haven't read the Bradbury? It's super famous, including
often being credited for the origin of the term "butterfly effect".

Tony

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Tony Nance

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-
with-dinosaurs/

Zero for five here.

You sure you haven't read the Bradbury? It's super famous, including
often being credited for the origin of the term "butterfly effect".
Tony

I thought that I read that in a short story ?

Lynn

[Tony Nance]

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Tony Nance

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-
with-dinosaurs/

Zero for five here.

You sure you haven't read the Bradbury? It's super famous, including
often being credited for the origin of the term "butterfly effect".
Tony

I thought that I read that in a short story ?

Yep - that's exactly what the Bradbury is.
- Tony

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Tony Nance

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Tony Nance

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-
with-dinosaurs/

Zero for five here.

You sure you haven't read the Bradbury? It's super famous, including
often being credited for the origin of the term "butterfly effect".
Tony

I thought that I read that in a short story ?

Yep - that's exactly what the Bradbury is.
- Tony

Ah, so the Bradbury is a collection of short stories. That was not
obvious at a glance. Yes, I have read that particular short story. I
do not know about the rest of the short stories.

Lynn

[The Horny Goat]

On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:58:08 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Tony Nance

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-
with-dinosaurs/

Zero for five here.

You sure you haven't read the Bradbury? It's super famous, including
often being credited for the origin of the term "butterfly effect".
Tony

I thought that I read that in a short story ?
Lynn

Short stories (opposed to novels) makes it less science fiction? When
I was subscribing to Analog and Asimov's I typically enjoyed my
science fiction (for instance the first of the Miles Vorkosigan
stories was published in Analog when I was subscribing) as much as all
but the very very best SF novels I read.

[Tony Nance]

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

Interesting...very interesting. A few that fit came to mind, including
one who's title was elusive as heck for a while (the Aldiss) - and in
chasing it down, I found one that I had forgotten in an anthology I'd
never heard of:


A Gun for Dinosaur - L. Sprague de Camp
I (re)read this earlier this year.

Tunnel Through Time - Lester del Rey and Paul W. Fairman (This was
probably just Fairman, working from an idea/outline Lester gave him.)
This was one of the first two science fiction books I ever read.[1]

Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled across
this anthology that I'd never heard of:

The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564

which includes this story I read just last year (but had forgotten):
Wildcat - Poul Anderson

and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]

Just fyi:
Laumer’s Dinosaur Beach barely has any dinosaurs in it at all.

Lastly, a story that (to me) only sort of fits:
The Doors of His Face, the Lamps of His Mouth - Roger Zelazny
which features a hunt for a 300-foot-long denizen of the Venusian oceans
commonly called "Ikky"...on Venus.

Tony
[1] The other candidate being Silverberg's Planet of Death
[2] I've read the Asimov, but I do not remember one thing about it.

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by James Nicoll

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.

https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/
Interesting...very interesting. A few that fit came to mind, including
one who's title was elusive as heck for a while (the Aldiss) - and in
chasing it down, I found one that I had forgotten in an anthology I'd
A Gun for Dinosaur - L. Sprague de Camp
I (re)read this earlier this year.
Tunnel Through Time - Lester del Rey and Paul W. Fairman (This was
probably just Fairman, working from an idea/outline Lester gave him.)
This was one of the first two science fiction books I ever read.[1]
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled across
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]
Laumer’s Dinosaur Beach barely has any dinosaurs in it at all.
The Doors of His Face, the Lamps of His Mouth - Roger Zelazny
which features a hunt for a 300-foot-long denizen of the Venusian oceans
commonly called "Ikky"...on Venus.
Tony
[1] The other candidate being Silverberg's Planet of Death
[2] I've read the Asimov, but I do not remember one thing about it.

In van Vogt's "M33 In Andromeda", the Andromeda intelligence is
dinosauring the whole galaxy iirc.

[Tony Nance]

Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>

Post by James Nicoll

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.

https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/
Interesting...very interesting. A few that fit came to mind, including
one who's title was elusive as heck for a while (the Aldiss) - and in
chasing it down, I found one that I had forgotten in an anthology I'd
A Gun for Dinosaur - L. Sprague de Camp
I (re)read this earlier this year.
Tunnel Through Time - Lester del Rey and Paul W. Fairman (This was
probably just Fairman, working from an idea/outline Lester gave him.)
This was one of the first two science fiction books I ever read.[1]
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled across
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]
Laumer’s Dinosaur Beach barely has any dinosaurs in it at all.
The Doors of His Face, the Lamps of His Mouth - Roger Zelazny
which features a hunt for a 300-foot-long denizen of the Venusian oceans
commonly called "Ikky"...on Venus.
Tony
[1] The other candidate being Silverberg's Planet of Death
[2] I've read the Asimov, but I do not remember one thing about it.

In van Vogt's "M33 In Andromeda", the Andromeda intelligence is
dinosauring the whole galaxy iirc.

Is that "dinosauring" in the sense of "extinct-ifying"? At least, that
is a Space Beagle story[1], and I don't think there are any dinosaurs in
those stories[2].

Tony
[1] unless it isn't
[2] unless there are

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by James Nicoll

Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>

Post by Tony Nance

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.

https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>

Post by Tony Nance
Interesting...very interesting. A few that fit came to mind, including
one who's title was elusive as heck for a while (the Aldiss) - and in
chasing it down, I found one that I had forgotten in an anthology I'd
A Gun for Dinosaur - L. Sprague de Camp
I (re)read this earlier this year.
Tunnel Through Time - Lester del Rey and Paul W. Fairman (This was
probably just Fairman, working from an idea/outline Lester gave him.)
This was one of the first two science fiction books I ever read.[1]
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled across
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]
Laumer’s Dinosaur Beach barely has any dinosaurs in it at all.
The Doors of His Face, the Lamps of His Mouth - Roger Zelazny
which features a hunt for a 300-foot-long denizen of the Venusian oceans
commonly called "Ikky"...on Venus.
Tony
[1] The other candidate being Silverberg's Planet of Death
[2] I've read the Asimov, but I do not remember one thing about it.

In van Vogt's "M33 In Andromeda", the Andromeda intelligence is
dinosauring the whole galaxy iirc.

Is that "dinosauring" in the sense of "extinct-ifying"? At least, that
is a Space Beagle story[1], and I don't think there are any dinosaurs in
those stories[2].
Tony
[1] unless it isn't
[2] unless there are

"Dinosauring" as wiping everything else out in favor of (pulp) Venus-like
jungle worlds with dinosaur-ish fauna.


http://www.prosperosisle.org/spip.php?article333

[Tony Nance]

Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>

Post by James Nicoll

Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>

Post by Tony Nance

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.

https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

Post by Ted Nolan <tednolan>

Post by Tony Nance
Interesting...very interesting. A few that fit came to mind, including
one who's title was elusive as heck for a while (the Aldiss) - and in
chasing it down, I found one that I had forgotten in an anthology I'd
A Gun for Dinosaur - L. Sprague de Camp
I (re)read this earlier this year.
Tunnel Through Time - Lester del Rey and Paul W. Fairman (This was
probably just Fairman, working from an idea/outline Lester gave him.)
This was one of the first two science fiction books I ever read.[1]
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled across
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]
Laumer’s Dinosaur Beach barely has any dinosaurs in it at all.
The Doors of His Face, the Lamps of His Mouth - Roger Zelazny
which features a hunt for a 300-foot-long denizen of the Venusian oceans
commonly called "Ikky"...on Venus.
Tony
[1] The other candidate being Silverberg's Planet of Death
[2] I've read the Asimov, but I do not remember one thing about it.

In van Vogt's "M33 In Andromeda", the Andromeda intelligence is
dinosauring the whole galaxy iirc.

Is that "dinosauring" in the sense of "extinct-ifying"? At least, that
is a Space Beagle story[1], and I don't think there are any dinosaurs in
those stories[2].
Tony
[1] unless it isn't
[2] unless there are

"Dinosauring" as wiping everything else out in favor of (pulp) Venus-like
jungle worlds with dinosaur-ish fauna.
http://www.prosperosisle.org/spip.php?article333

Gotcha, thanks.
- Tony

[Ahasuerus]

On 8/23/2024 5:50 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
[snip-snip]

Post by Tony Nance
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled across
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]

[snip]

Robert F. Young's "When Time Was New" (1964) (expanded as _Eridahn_ in
1983) was nice.

[Tony Nance]

Post by Ahasuerus
[snip-snip]

Post by Tony Nance
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]

[snip]
Robert F. Young's "When Time Was New" (1964) (expanded as _Eridahn_ in
1983) was nice.

Good to know - thanks. Since some expansions are better than others (and
if you have indeed read them both), did you prefer one over the other?

Tony

[Ahasuerus]

Post by Tony Nance

Post by Ahasuerus
[snip-snip]

Post by Tony Nance
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]

[snip]
Robert F. Young's "When Time Was New" (1964) (expanded as _Eridahn_ in
1983) was nice.

Good to know - thanks. Since some expansions are better than others (and
if you have indeed read them both), did you prefer one over the other?
Robert F. Young turned his short story "When Time Was New" into
a novel, Eridahn. I prefer the short version, but the book was
good, too. Just read the shorter one first, I'd say. The basic
premise is pretty cool - scientists explore the time of the
dinosaurs by using time traveling dinosaur shaped tanks.

My logs -- I don't trust my memory as much as I used to -- don't say
anything substantive about _Eridahn_, so chances are that I haven't read
it. Something to rectify, perhaps.

[Tony Nance]

Post by Ahasuerus

Post by Tony Nance

Post by Ahasuerus
[snip-snip]

Post by Tony Nance
Poor Little Warrior! - Brian W. Aldiss
I was chasing down the title to this Aldiss story when I stumbled
The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert
Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
Wildcat - Poul Anderson
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]

[snip]
Robert F. Young's "When Time Was New" (1964) (expanded as _Eridahn_
in 1983) was nice.

Good to know - thanks. Since some expansions are better than others
(and if you have indeed read them both), did you prefer one over the
other?
Robert F. Young turned his short story "When Time Was New" into
a novel, Eridahn. I prefer the short version, but the book was
good, too. Just read the shorter one first, I'd say. The basic
premise is pretty cool - scientists explore the time of the
dinosaurs by using time traveling dinosaur shaped tanks.

My logs -- I don't trust my memory as much as I used to -- don't say
anything substantive about _Eridahn_, so chances are that I haven't read
it. Something to rectify, perhaps.

Very helpful - thank you. I'll probably read the shorter one first, as
Peter suggested.
- Tony

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

The Science Fictional Dinosaur, ed. by Martin H. Greenberg, Robert Silverberg, and Charles G. Waugh
The complete list of stories is here
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46564
and which includes many other stories I'm unfamiliar with.[2]
[2] I've read the Asimov, but I do not remember one thing about it.

Dinner is one thing about it. I happen to know because I just reread it last week.

Lester Dent channeled Doyle by sending Doc Savage to a lost island
where dinosaurs were still extant:

<https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?283863>

How about _Danny and the Dinosaur_?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_and_the_Dinosaur>

(Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have an ISFDB listing.)

[Ahasuerus]

On 8/24/2024 8:57 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
[snip-snip]

Post by Michael F. Stemper
How about _Danny and the Dinosaur_?
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_and_the_Dinosaur>
(Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have an ISFDB listing.)

Picture books are a gray area.

Post by Michael F. Stemper
Animal books for very young children, i.e. books for preschoolers

which depict simple scenes from animal life featuring anthropomorphized
animals

are excluded, but some more advanced picture books are occasionally
included.

[Don]

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

_The Lost World_ by Arthur Conan Doyle

... Modern readers curious about Edwardian-era ... virulent bigotry
need look no further than this novel.

No doubt, James. Initiate of the United Grand Lodge of England, Sir Dr
Doyle, will be /virtually/ dissected by me in the future. Regardless,
real-life Ripper manoeuvres will be left to Sir Dr's mentor.
Now's the time to turnoff the telegraph.

Allow me to note, in passing, PR's prodigious 'saurs. Dino diversions
don't usually pique my interest - with the single exception of
"A Sound of Thunder."

Danke,

--
Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php
telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

[William Hyde]

Post by Don

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

_The Lost World_ by Arthur Conan Doyle
... Modern readers curious about Edwardian-era ... virulent bigotry
need look no further than this novel.
No doubt, James. Initiate of the United Grand Lodge of England, Sir Dr
Doyle,

I believe the correct order is "Dr Sir".

William Hyde

[Don]

Post by William Hyde

Post by Don

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

_The Lost World_ by Arthur Conan Doyle
... Modern readers curious about Edwardian-era ... virulent bigotry
need look no further than this novel.
No doubt, James. Initiate of the United Grand Lodge of England, Sir Dr
Doyle,

I believe the correct order is "Dr Sir".

London honorific protocol is above my pay grade. My own, homegrown,
thrown together titular rule of thumb puts the rarest title first.
There once was a Denver newspaper invested in London custom. Only
seven Scot knights (with the title Sir) reside in North America, they
said.
It seems to me the most exalted title comes first. The Senator
Doctor from Wyoming, for instance. The Senator Doctor occasionally
catches me taking a break at one end of his long driveway during my
spins up the mountain: <https://crcomp.net/arts/spintale/index.php> He
always acts affable and good-natured about it.

Dorothy used to write about "The Star Beast." The Lummox may qualify as
distinctly dinosaur in demeanor.

Danke,

--
Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php
telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Don

Post by William Hyde

Post by Don

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

_The Lost World_ by Arthur Conan Doyle
... Modern readers curious about Edwardian-era ... virulent bigotry
need look no further than this novel.
No doubt, James. Initiate of the United Grand Lodge of England, Sir Dr
Doyle,

I believe the correct order is "Dr Sir".

London honorific protocol is above my pay grade. My own, homegrown,
thrown together titular rule of thumb puts the rarest title first.
There once was a Denver newspaper invested in London custom. Only
seven Scot knights (with the title Sir) reside in North America, they
said.
It seems to me the most exalted title comes first. The Senator
Doctor from Wyoming, for instance. The Senator Doctor occasionally
catches me taking a break at one end of his long driveway during my
spins up the mountain: <https://crcomp.net/arts/spintale/index.php> He
always acts affable and good-natured about it.
Dorothy used to write about "The Star Beast." The Lummox may qualify as
distinctly dinosaur in demeanor.

Didn't Lummox have four legs and two arms ? Not quite a dinosaur. And
her family put her on a severe diet.

Lynn

[Don]

<snip>

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Don
Dorothy used to write about "The Star Beast." The Lummox may qualify as
distinctly dinosaur in demeanor.

Didn't Lummox have four legs and two arms ? Not quite a dinosaur. And
her family put her on a severe diet.

My recently concluded research to answer your question indicates Lummox
has eight legs and looks like a triceratops.

Lummox remained reared up, watching the dog but making
no move. He did add to his earlier remark a truthful
statement about the dog's ancestry and an untruthful
one about his habits; they helped to keep the mastiff
berserk. But on the dog's seventh round trip he cut
fairly close to where Lummox's first pair of legs would
have been had Lummox had all eight feet on the ground...

The impression is something like a rhinoceros, something
like a triceratops, though the articulation is unlike
anything native to this planet. "Lummox" his young master
calls him and the name fits.

# # #

"Essence of Rex" is by a local sculptor in my town. Apparently female
rex were considerably larger than males:

Danke,

--
Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php
telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Don
<snip>

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Don
Dorothy used to write about "The Star Beast." The Lummox may qualify as
distinctly dinosaur in demeanor.

Didn't Lummox have four legs and two arms ? Not quite a dinosaur. And
her family put her on a severe diet.

My recently concluded research to answer your question indicates Lummox
has eight legs and looks like a triceratops.
Lummox remained reared up, watching the dog but making
no move. He did add to his earlier remark a truthful
statement about the dog's ancestry and an untruthful
one about his habits; they helped to keep the mastiff
berserk. But on the dog's seventh round trip he cut
fairly close to where Lummox's first pair of legs would
have been had Lummox had all eight feet on the ground...
The impression is something like a rhinoceros, something
like a triceratops, though the articulation is unlike
anything native to this planet. "Lummox" his young master
calls him and the name fits.
# # #
"Essence of Rex" is by a local sculptor in my town. Apparently female
http://youtu.be/vHzSPmS79T0
Danke,

Thanks !

I need to do research again. This book is in my six star list of books
and I have read it several times. Time for another reread.

Lynn

[Christian Weisgerber]

Post by Don
Lummox remained reared up, watching the dog but making
no move. He did add to his earlier remark a truthful
statement about the dog's ancestry

"bastard"

Post by Don
and an untruthful one about his habits;

A bit vague. Any particular word that is supposed to recall?

[quadibloc]

Is "To the Future" the one about the non-returnees being caught because
they didn't pull their pants legs up in order to prevent the knees from
bulging?

John Savard

[BCFD 36]

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-dinosaurs/

I haven't read any of the other replies yet. There maybe a repeat or two
of previous comments.

I've read the Doyle and the Bradbury. Who hasn't read The Sound of
Thunder? And I am reminded of L. Sprague de Camp's "A Gun for Dinosaur".

So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by BCFD 36

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-
dinosaurs/

I haven't read any of the other replies yet. There maybe a repeat or two
of previous comments.
I've read the Doyle and the Bradbury. Who hasn't read The Sound of
Thunder? And I am reminded of L. Sprague de Camp's "A Gun for Dinosaur".
So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

I think you're right. The story was published in 1956.

.600 Nitro Express has been around since 1915. While the .50 BMG
cartridge also goes back to the same period, but I can't find
reference to a 50 BMG rifle before 1971 (Barret's M82 came out in
1988).

The Carl Gustaf does go back to 1946, so its a possibility.
However, being recoilless, Mr. Seligman could have used it,
(with training), which would kind of kill the story.

But is it sporting to hunt with explosive rounds, let
alone shaped charges?

pt

[Ted Nolan <tednolan>]

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by BCFD 36

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs
 From time travel to alternate timelines, science fiction authors keep
finding novel ways to bring us into contact with dinosaurs--some
friendly, others not so much.
https://reactormag.com/five-stories-that-know-everythings-better-with-
dinosaurs/

I haven't read any of the other replies yet. There maybe a repeat or two
of previous comments.
I've read the Doyle and the Bradbury. Who hasn't read The Sound of
Thunder? And I am reminded of L. Sprague de Camp's "A Gun for Dinosaur".
So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

I think you're right. The story was published in 1956.
.600 Nitro Express has been around since 1915. While the .50 BMG
cartridge also goes back to the same period, but I can't find
reference to a 50 BMG rifle before 1971 (Barret's M82 came out in
1988).
The Carl Gustaf does go back to 1946, so its a possibility.
However, being recoilless, Mr. Seligman could have used it,
(with training), which would kind of kill the story.
But is it sporting to hunt with explosive rounds, let
alone shaped charges?
pt

It can be:

https://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/time-traveled/

[Christian Weisgerber]

Post by BCFD 36
So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

Large theropods were about the weight of a large African elephant,
so I think if you go hunting T. Rex, an elephant gun like .500 Nitro
Express should do the job. For sauropods, there simply aren't any
extant land animals that could serve as a point of reference. As
a wild guess, I'd think an M2 machine gun would bring the animal
down rather sooner than later, but this might invite accusations
of animal cruelty.

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by Christian Weisgerber

Post by BCFD 36
So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

Large theropods were about the weight of a large African elephant,
so I think if you go hunting T. Rex, an elephant gun like .500 Nitro
Express should do the job. For sauropods, there simply aren't any
extant land animals that could serve as a point of reference. As
a wild guess, I'd think an M2 machine gun would bring the animal
down rather sooner than later, but this might invite accusations
of animal cruelty.

The problem is that those lizards have distributed brains instead of
having everything in one place like an elephant. So you can fire that
.850 Express into the head of an elephant and have it collapse, but
it's likely that the dinosaur will keep on going (perhaps even more
effectively than a chicken).

There are other good targets like the heart (although some have supposed
that some larger dinosaurs may have had multiple hearts).

Random spraying with the M2 is not sporting. Nor is a 155mm howitzer.
--scott

[Dimensional Traveler]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by Christian Weisgerber

Post by BCFD 36
So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

Large theropods were about the weight of a large African elephant,
so I think if you go hunting T. Rex, an elephant gun like .500 Nitro
Express should do the job. For sauropods, there simply aren't any
extant land animals that could serve as a point of reference. As
a wild guess, I'd think an M2 machine gun would bring the animal
down rather sooner than later, but this might invite accusations
of animal cruelty.

The problem is that those lizards have distributed brains instead of
having everything in one place like an elephant.

I thought that "secondary brain" meme got debunked decades ago!

[Dimensional Traveler]

Post by Dimensional Traveler

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by Christian Weisgerber

Post by BCFD 36
So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

Large theropods were about the weight of a large African elephant,
so I think if you go hunting T. Rex, an elephant gun like .500 Nitro
Express should do the job.  For sauropods, there simply aren't any
extant land animals that could serve as a point of reference.  As
a wild guess, I'd think an M2 machine gun would bring the animal
down rather sooner than later, but this might invite accusations
of animal cruelty.

The problem is that those lizards have distributed brains instead of
having everything in one place like an elephant.

I thought that "secondary brain" meme got debunked decades ago!

And I was right!
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-double-dinosaur-brain-myth-12155823/

[Gary R. Schmidt]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by Christian Weisgerber

Post by BCFD 36
So, I found a PDF and reread it. I only have one quibble. I don't think
a 600 Nitro Express would be big enough for large dinosaur. Maybe an RPG
or some armor piercing .50 cal. Or maybe a Çarl Gustaf.

Large theropods were about the weight of a large African elephant,
so I think if you go hunting T. Rex, an elephant gun like .500 Nitro
Express should do the job. For sauropods, there simply aren't any
extant land animals that could serve as a point of reference. As
a wild guess, I'd think an M2 machine gun would bring the animal
down rather sooner than later, but this might invite accusations
of animal cruelty.

The problem is that those lizards have distributed brains instead of
having everything in one place like an elephant. So you can fire that
.850 Express into the head of an elephant and have it collapse, but
it's likely that the dinosaur will keep on going (perhaps even more
effectively than a chicken).
There are other good targets like the heart (although some have supposed
that some larger dinosaurs may have had multiple hearts).
Random spraying with the M2 is not sporting. Nor is a 155mm howitzer.
--scott

The howitzer is likely to attract far more scavengers due to the lovely
edible debris spread over a large area!

Cheers,
Gary B-)

[Default User]

Post by James Nicoll
Five Stories That Know Everything's Better With Dinosaurs

Like most, I've read the Bradbury. However, I also read "The Shy
Stegasaurus", many years ago. I'm somewhat amazed that I remember
reading it.

Another book that would fit the category is The Homecoming by Barry
Longyear. It features a species of Dinos that achieved intelligence and
technology back in the Cretaceous, including space travel. Now a ship
of them has returned, and isn't pleased with the state of the Home
Planet.


Brian