Tune at the beginning of "Territory"

[Michael F. Stemper]

"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.

I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes,
four slurred 32-nd notes, followed by two more dotted whole notes.

Does anybody here know what this tune is? I think that it is actually
relevant to the story, since the 32-nd notes are marked "gliss." and
the word "glissandos" is used on the same page (fifth paragraph).

I realize that my description isn't enough to identify the tune,
but if somebody musically inclined has a copy of "Territory", they
could look at it and play it on a piano or violin or something. If
they wanted to do so.

[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?55406>

[Gary R. Schmidt]

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes,
four slurred 32-nd notes, followed by two more dotted whole notes.
Does anybody here know what this tune is? I think that it is actually
relevant to the story, since the 32-nd notes are marked "gliss." and
the word "glissandos" is used on the same page (fifth paragraph).
I realize that my description isn't enough to identify the tune,
but if somebody musically inclined has a copy of "Territory", they
could look at it and play it on a piano or violin or something. If
they wanted to do so.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?55406>

Dare I suggest that you take a photograph of the page and post it,
somewhere?

Because my copy of "Trader to the Stars" doesn't have it.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes,

I used the wrong term here; the whole notes aren't dotted, but are
modified by fermatas.

Post by Michael F. Stemper
I realize that my description isn't enough to identify the tune,
but if somebody musically inclined has a copy of "Territory", they
could look at it and play it on a piano or violin or something. If
they wanted to do so.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?55406>

Dare I suggest that you take a photograph of the page and post it, somewhere?

I think that this will show it:
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eEssDYrt73vtdgYJ0q_qHud0i8e-qzFq/view?usp=sharing>

Thanks,
Mike

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes,

I used the wrong term here; the whole notes aren't dotted, but are
modified by fermatas.

Post by Michael F. Stemper
I realize that my description isn't enough to identify the tune,
but if somebody musically inclined has a copy of "Territory", they
could look at it and play it on a piano or violin or something. If
they wanted to do so.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?55406>

Dare I suggest that you take a photograph of the page and post it, somewhere?

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eEssDYrt73vtdgYJ0q_qHud0i8e-qzFq/view?usp=sharing>

There's no time signature, so it would appear to be a single
measure in, if I remember back that far, 5/4.

C, F C/Csharp/G/A B, Bflat

I played it on a piano and it did not sound familiar.

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,

Dare I suggest that you take a photograph of the page and post it, somewhere?

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eEssDYrt73vtdgYJ0q_qHud0i8e-qzFq/view?usp=sharing>

There's no time signature, so it would appear to be a single
measure in, if I remember back that far, 5/4.

Well, chant is also notated without time signatures or even bars. I
don't think that lack of a time signature is really intended to imply
one (except, maybe, common time).

Post by Scott Lurndal
C, F C/Csharp/G/A B, Bflat
I played it on a piano and it did not sound familiar.

Well, thanks for trying.

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by Scott Lurndal
There's no time signature, so it would appear to be a single
measure in, if I remember back that far, 5/4.
C, F C/Csharp/G/A B, Bflat
I played it on a piano and it did not sound familiar.

A number of Poul Anderson stories have original music, sometimes with original
lyrics. Sometimes just the lyrics (like Mary O'Meara which had Anne Passovoy
write the tune for it). It used to be you could hear people playing many of
his songs in filk circles but they seem to have fallen out of favour.
--scott

[Scott Lurndal]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by Scott Lurndal
There's no time signature, so it would appear to be a single
measure in, if I remember back that far, 5/4.
C, F C/Csharp/G/A B, Bflat
I played it on a piano and it did not sound familiar.

A number of Poul Anderson stories have original music, sometimes with original
lyrics. Sometimes just the lyrics (like Mary O'Meara which had Anne Passovoy
write the tune for it). It used to be you could hear people playing many of
his songs in filk circles but they seem to have fallen out of favour.

And here's where Dorethy would have added a piquant anecdote about
the Andersons.

Sigh. She is missed.

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Scott Lurndal

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by Scott Lurndal
There's no time signature, so it would appear to be a single
measure in, if I remember back that far, 5/4.
C, F C/Csharp/G/A B, Bflat
I played it on a piano and it did not sound familiar.

A number of Poul Anderson stories have original music, sometimes with original
lyrics. Sometimes just the lyrics (like Mary O'Meara which had Anne Passovoy
write the tune for it). It used to be you could hear people playing many of
his songs in filk circles but they seem to have fallen out of favour.

And here's where Dorethy would have added a piquant anecdote about
the Andersons.
Sigh. She is missed.

Yeah, I thought of her as I was writing up my question.

[Chris Buckley]

Post by Gary R. Schmidt

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes,
four slurred 32-nd notes, followed by two more dotted whole notes.
Does anybody here know what this tune is? I think that it is actually
relevant to the story, since the 32-nd notes are marked "gliss." and
the word "glissandos" is used on the same page (fifth paragraph).
I realize that my description isn't enough to identify the tune,
but if somebody musically inclined has a copy of "Territory", they
could look at it and play it on a piano or violin or something. If
they wanted to do so.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?55406>

Dare I suggest that you take a photograph of the page and post it,
somewhere?
Because my copy of "Trader to the Stars" doesn't have it.
Cheers,

It's in my copy, but my wife (much more musically inclined than I am)
didn't recognize it at all.

The 8 notes described above are
C F C C# G A B Bflat

Chris

[Charles Packer]

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes, four
slurred 32-nd notes, followed by two more dotted whole notes.
Does anybody here know what this tune is? I think that it is actually
relevant to the story, since the 32-nd notes are marked "gliss." and the
word "glissandos" is used on the same page (fifth paragraph).
I realize that my description isn't enough to identify the tune,
but if somebody musically inclined has a copy of "Territory", they could
look at it and play it on a piano or violin or something. If they wanted
to do so.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?55406>

Those are not "dotted" whole notes in the common meaning of the term,
i.e. extending the duration by a half. That's when the dot is to
the right of the note. I can't recall what a dot in a semicircle
means.

[Charles Packer]

Post by Charles Packer

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes, four
slurred 32-nd notes, followed by two more dotted whole notes.
Does anybody here know what this tune is? I think that it is actually
relevant to the story, since the 32-nd notes are marked "gliss." and
the word "glissandos" is used on the same page (fifth paragraph).
I realize that my description isn't enough to identify the tune,
but if somebody musically inclined has a copy of "Territory", they
could look at it and play it on a piano or violin or something. If they
wanted to do so.
[1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?55406>

Those are not "dotted" whole notes in the common meaning of the term,
i.e. extending the duration by a half. That's when the dot is to the
right of the note. I can't recall what a dot in a semicircle means.

I found it. It's a "held" note, meaning longer than the note value,
but otherwise left to the performer.

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Charles Packer

Post by Charles Packer

Post by Michael F. Stemper
"Territory"[1] is a short story or novellette by Poul Anderson.
I have it in the collection _Trader to the Stars_. At the beginning,
there is written a short musical passage: two dotted whole notes, four
slurred 32-nd notes, followed by two more dotted whole notes.

Those are not "dotted" whole notes in the common meaning of the term,
i.e. extending the duration by a half. That's when the dot is to the
right of the note. I can't recall what a dot in a semicircle means.

I found it. It's a "held" note, meaning longer than the note value,
but otherwise left to the performer.

The term is "fermata".