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The scene would very closely align with Heinlein's views.
It does align with some views... expressed by Heinlein. But they're
not among his _controversial_ ones, nor are they unique to Heinlein.
As that scene seems like a good, if old-fashioned, way to end a
movie, leaving the audience to feel it was _about_ something, it
seems to me a pity that it _was_ deleted.
Thing is the scene is correct we have an instinct
to save those in distress.
But in the scenario spending hundreds of millions to
save one person is more about politicians wanting
to keep their jobs.
And especially wanting to continue milking the whole
'life on Mars' thing for as long as humanly possible
to extend their careers into eternity.
That's why the rovers are deliberately designed
so that they can't prove life is on Mars and
why they deliberately choose sites that are
best for geological, not biological discoveries.
NASA wants their decades long sample return mission
and especially manned landings on the Moon and Mars.
Finding life on Mars would short-circuit all of that
just as the Apollo program disbanded once the big
If NASA found life on Mars now, they could flush their
thirty year plan designed to find life after then
Astrobiologists have little doubt microbes are
to be found on Mars, this conference makes that
For instance in 2012 the astrobiology conference
had a few dozen posters presented mostly by starry-eyed
graduate students. But look at the last NASA astrobiology
conference in 2017, more papers than you can count
and by top flight universities after the rover landed
at Meridiani and found all those spheres. Spheres that
can't be accounted for without invoking life, btw.
Geology alone can't explain them.
2017 Abscicon Author list (A-K)
The field didn't explode like this after the rovers
by accident, they know what they found, microbial life
is almost certainly there just meters below the surface.
And literally the entire northern hemisphere of Mars
just underground is an ideal habitat for microbial life.
A few pics from Mars as teasers.
Can you explain this using only geological explanations?
It's not possible.Loading Image...
A Frozen Ocean the Size of the North Sea
And this razor flat horizon can only be created by
...recent body of water or ice. This used to be a
shallow underground body of water/ice that dried up
and was later exposed by erosion, it's the bottom
of a shallow underground sea.Loading Image...
And this exposed sea floor is coated from horizon
to horizon by the Martian spheres, all coming
in three /uniform/ sizes. Countless billions
of them like these.Loading Image...
You can see their process of growth due to
repeated soaking clearly in the sphere in
the...lower left...of this pic, in
the sphere that has a half shell.Loading Image...
This stunning pic may show their ongoing
formation. This is a pic of a patch of soft
clay like sphere rich soil.Loading Image...
Yes, clay on the surface of Mars.
Martian 'blueberries' could be clues to presence of life
Previous theories suggested these concretions were formed
by simple chemical reactions without the help of life.
However, new UWA research shows clear evidence that microbes
were essential in their formation.
This raises the possibility that Martian "blueberries" may
not only reveal that water was present on Mars - but life too.
UWA scientists David Wacey and Matt Kilburn used
high-resolution NanoSIMS technology at the University's
Centre for Microscopy, Characterisation and Analysis to
show clear relationships in the Utah concretions between
microbe-like forms and concentrations of biological
elements such as carbon and nitrogen.
Their findings - in collaboration with scientists from
the University of Nebraska - feature on the front cover
of the August issue of the journal Geology.
University of Nebraska Assistant Professor Karrie Weber
said UWA's CMCA facility - which is used to study
everything from early life on Earth to cancer drugs,
plant biology, rocks and soils, and nanotechnology
- was chosen because of its demonstrated success in
identifying microbial fossils.
Read more at:
Journal of Astrobiology and Space Science Reviews,
Vol 1, 40-81, 2019
Evidence of Life on Mars?
1. Overview: The Evidence
Presented here is a body of evidence and observations which
do not prove but supports the hypothesis Mars was, and is, a
living planet hosting prokaryotes, lichens, and fungi.
This evidence includes: