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_The Hundred and One Dalmatians_ racist?
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Joel Polowin
2024-10-07 20:41:02 UTC
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I recently ran across a review

which compared the original Dodie Smith book _The Hundred and One
Dalmations_ with the 1961 Disney animated adaptation, _One Hundred and
One Dalmatians_. It noted that the original book had some extremely
racist comments, referring to "sneaky awful black-eyed gipsies". (This
is in chapter 14 of the book.)

But my copy of the book _One Hundred and One Dalmatians_ (with the
altered title, and an image from the Disney movie on the cover) doesn't
have that. The worst comment that my book makes is that "gipsies
sometimes stole valuable dogs" And the gipsies do indeed try to capture
the dogs.

My guess is that the book was tweaked a bit for the post-Disney
publication. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a copy of the
book that was published pre-1961. (It's also possible that the changes
were due to the book's North American publication, vs. the original U.K.
release.) The copies at archive.org are no longer available; the
passages available in Google Books don't include that chapter.
Interlibrary loan was unsuccessful — although I found a library that had
it, relatively close to where I live, the library then removed the book
from their catalogue. I guess they discovered that the book was missing
from their collection when they tried to find it for me.

Do any of you have a pre-Disney (i.e. pre-1961) copy of the book? I'm
interested in comparing the two book versions, or at least that section
of them.

Thanks,
Joel
Chris Buckley
2024-10-08 19:35:30 UTC
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Post by Joel Polowin
I recently ran across a review http://youtu.be/1GxzNj8HO-k
which compared the original Dodie Smith book _The Hundred and One
Dalmations_ with the 1961 Disney animated adaptation, _One Hundred and
One Dalmatians_. It noted that the original book had some extremely
racist comments, referring to "sneaky awful black-eyed gipsies". (This
is in chapter 14 of the book.)
But my copy of the book _One Hundred and One Dalmatians_ (with the
altered title, and an image from the Disney movie on the cover) doesn't
have that. The worst comment that my book makes is that "gipsies
sometimes stole valuable dogs" And the gipsies do indeed try to capture
the dogs.
My guess is that the book was tweaked a bit for the post-Disney
publication. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a copy of the
book that was published pre-1961. (It's also possible that the changes
were due to the book's North American publication, vs. the original U.K.
release.) The copies at archive.org are no longer available; the
passages available in Google Books don't include that chapter.
Interlibrary loan was unsuccessful — although I found a library that had
it, relatively close to where I live, the library then removed the book
from their catalogue. I guess they discovered that the book was missing
from their collection when they tried to find it for me.
Do any of you have a pre-Disney (i.e. pre-1961) copy of the book? I'm
interested in comparing the two book versions, or at least that section
of them.
Thanks,
Joel
From Goodreads, it originally was serialized in _Woman's Day_ as "The
Great Dog Robbery". There are full digital archives of this magazine,
but I didn't investigate how freely they are accessible (eg ProQuest).

I did see one 1957 copy on sale for $66, but that's going to extremes
for the sake of curiousity!

Good luck!
Chris
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2024-10-08 20:08:43 UTC
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Post by Chris Buckley
Post by Joel Polowin
I recently ran across a review http://youtu.be/1GxzNj8HO-k
which compared the original Dodie Smith book _The Hundred and One
Dalmations_ with the 1961 Disney animated adaptation, _One Hundred and
One Dalmatians_. It noted that the original book had some extremely
racist comments, referring to "sneaky awful black-eyed gipsies". (This
is in chapter 14 of the book.)
But my copy of the book _One Hundred and One Dalmatians_ (with the
altered title, and an image from the Disney movie on the cover) doesn't
have that. The worst comment that my book makes is that "gipsies
sometimes stole valuable dogs" And the gipsies do indeed try to capture
the dogs.
My guess is that the book was tweaked a bit for the post-Disney
publication. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a copy of the
book that was published pre-1961. (It's also possible that the changes
were due to the book's North American publication, vs. the original U.K.
release.) The copies at archive.org are no longer available; the
passages available in Google Books don't include that chapter.
Interlibrary loan was unsuccessful — although I found a library that had
it, relatively close to where I live, the library then removed the book
from their catalogue. I guess they discovered that the book was missing
from their collection when they tried to find it for me.
Do any of you have a pre-Disney (i.e. pre-1961) copy of the book? I'm
interested in comparing the two book versions, or at least that section
of them.
Thanks,
Joel
From Goodreads, it originally was serialized in _Woman's Day_ as "The
Great Dog Robbery". There are full digital archives of this magazine,
but I didn't investigate how freely they are accessible (eg ProQuest).
I did see one 1957 copy on sale for $66, but that's going to extremes
for the sake of curiousity!
Good luck!
Chris
You can find out here, for a $250 PDF!

https://wonderclub.com/magazines/WOMANSDAYmagWOMANSDAY195606.htm
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Joel Polowin
2024-10-09 16:39:00 UTC
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Post by Chris Buckley
From Goodreads, it originally was serialized in _Woman's Day_ as "The
Great Dog Robbery". There are full digital archives of this magazine,
but I didn't investigate how freely they are accessible (eg ProQuest).
I have an alumnus account with my university library, and I've been
trying to access those issues (1956 June through September). Their
system initially says that they're "available electronically" but when I
request any of them, the notation changes to show that they're in the
library storage. I'm confused about this, and have sent a request for
clarification. Perhaps they're "available electronically" in some
digital form that's in storage, e.g. a CD/DVD. I should hear back
within a couple of days.

I've found a number of on-line archives that store a variety of versions
of _The Hundred and One Dalmatians_, but every one I've looked at has
the same text as my own book copy. I'm going to try to contact the guy
who did that review video and ask for the publication details of the
version that he used.

Joel

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