“SEVENEVES at Legendary”

[Lynn McGuire]

“SEVENEVES at Legendary”
https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/seveneves-at-legendary

Might be a good tv series. Will be at least three seasons if it makes it.

I love the illustration of the cradle.

Lynn

[D]

“SEVENEVES at Legendary”
https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/seveneves-at-legendary
Might be a good tv series. Will be at least three seasons if it makes it.
I love the illustration of the cradle.
Lynn

Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

But I do think that seveneves fits perfectly in the current times of trans
and woke:ism, as well as exploring questions about survival. I think it
will be a big hit with the progressive crowd!

[Paul S Person]

Post by D

“SEVENEVES at Legendary”
https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/seveneves-at-legendary
Might be a good tv series. Will be at least three seasons if it makes it.
I love the illustration of the cradle.
Lynn

Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

You are turning what Peter Jackson did into a Universal Law. Of
course, that was 3 movies rather than 3 seasons.

Then again, considering the few online series I have watched ... the
same could, I think, be said of even one season.

Post by D
But I do think that seveneves fits perfectly in the current times of trans
and woke:ism, as well as exploring questions about survival. I think it
will be a big hit with the progressive crowd!

[D]

Post by Paul S Person

Post by D

“SEVENEVES at Legendary”
https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/seveneves-at-legendary
Might be a good tv series. Will be at least three seasons if it makes it.
I love the illustration of the cradle.
Lynn

Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

You are turning what Peter Jackson did into a Universal Law. Of
course, that was 3 movies rather than 3 seasons.

This is true. Mostly, if we look at one shot movies, I am disappointed by
them too most of the times.

Post by Paul S Person
Then again, considering the few online series I have watched ... the
same could, I think, be said of even one season.

Yes!

Post by Paul S Person

Post by D
But I do think that seveneves fits perfectly in the current times of trans
and woke:ism, as well as exploring questions about survival. I think it
will be a big hit with the progressive crowd!

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by D

Post by Lynn McGuire
“SEVENEVES at Legendary”
  https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/seveneves-at-legendary
Might be a good tv series.  Will be at least three seasons if it makes
it.
I love the illustration of the cradle.
Lynn

Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(
But I do think that seveneves fits perfectly in the current times of
trans and woke:ism, as well as exploring questions about survival. I
think it will be a big hit with the progressive crowd!

I made it three seasons since there are three parts to the book. Now,
two years from now, and 5,000 years from now.

Lynn

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by D

Post by Lynn McGuire
“SEVENEVES at Legendary”
  https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/seveneves-at-legendary
Might be a good tv series.  Will be at least three seasons if it
makes it.
I love the illustration of the cradle.
Lynn

Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a
few days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait
between actual scenes from the book. =(
But I do think that seveneves fits perfectly in the current times of
trans and woke:ism, as well as exploring questions about survival. I
think it will be a big hit with the progressive crowd!

I made it three seasons since there are three parts to the book.  Now,
two years from now, and 5,000 years from now.

I personally think its one of Stephenson's weakest works. Too much
stuff is made unnecessarily implausible without even an attempt
at explanation.

There is a some really neat worldbuilding, but by the time we got
there, my WSOD was completely gone.

pt

[D]

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by D

“SEVENEVES at Legendary”
  https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/seveneves-at-legendary
Might be a good tv series.  Will be at least three seasons if it makes
it.
I love the illustration of the cradle.
Lynn

Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(
But I do think that seveneves fits perfectly in the current times of trans
and woke:ism, as well as exploring questions about survival. I think it
will be a big hit with the progressive crowd!

I made it three seasons since there are three parts to the book.  Now, two
years from now, and 5,000 years from now.

I personally think its one of Stephenson's weakest works. Too much
stuff is made unnecessarily implausible without even an attempt
at explanation.
There is a some really neat worldbuilding, but by the time we got
there, my WSOD was completely gone.
pt

I found the book alright. 3.5 out of 5. Too much descriptions, but that is
Stephensons style, so by only reading quotes, the book became much better.
;)

Early Stephenson the diamond age, cryptonomicon, and a third one I don't
recall at the moment, are my favourites.

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Cryptoengineer
I personally think its one of Stephenson's weakest works. Too much
stuff is made unnecessarily implausible without even an attempt
at explanation.
There is a some really neat worldbuilding, but by the time we got
there, my WSOD was completely gone.

I found the book alright. 3.5 out of 5. Too much descriptions, but that is Stephensons style, so by only reading quotes, the book became much better. ;)
Early Stephenson the diamond age, cryptonomicon, and a third one I don't recall at the moment, are my favourites.

_Snow Crash_?

[D]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by D

Post by Cryptoengineer
I personally think its one of Stephenson's weakest works. Too much
stuff is made unnecessarily implausible without even an attempt
at explanation.
There is a some really neat worldbuilding, but by the time we got
there, my WSOD was completely gone.

I found the book alright. 3.5 out of 5. Too much descriptions, but that is
Stephensons style, so by only reading quotes, the book became much better.
;)
Early Stephenson the diamond age, cryptonomicon, and a third one I don't
recall at the moment, are my favourites.

_Snow Crash_?

Yes! Thank you very much, you scratched my itch! I think Snow crash or the
diamond age would be nice mini-series on TV. Woulde definitely watch those
if they could keep it short.

Perhaps only UK producers are the only ones in the world who can resist the
temptation to make TV-series without an end?

Not science fiction, but I think the UK as a movie nation did an excellent
job adapting John le Carrés the night manager.

[The Horny Goat]

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.

No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

[Mike Spencer]

First I've heard of this.

I'm a real Stephenson fan. Genuflect, genuflect. Cryptonomicon and
the Baroque Cycle were, collectively, the best book I'd read in 50
years. I've read the whole four volumes 10 times.

Seveneves red-lined my Suspension of Disbelief, pinned it and bent the
needle. It's the first (and, until FALL, the only) Stephenson novel
that I've read only once and then with little pleasure.

I keep hoping that someone will undertake to put the whole
Cryptonomicon/Baroque Cycle on film with the same effort put into
LoTR. I don't know how to get in touch with Peter Jackson. :-)

I have this notion: Neal's agent comes to him and says, "Neal baby,
look Neal, you write these *great* novels but all the really important
stuff, all the best stuff, happens *inside* the characters' *heads*.
It's, like, really hard to put thoughts or amazement or someone doing
a stunning double-take on film. Can't you just write something where
the important stuff actually *happens*? Then we can make a movie and
we'll both get ridiculously rich.

And Neal pauses for a moment, then says, "Yeah, I can do that." And
goes home and writes REAMDE.

Jeez, REAMDE would make a great action movie with far less work than
scripting a screen version of Cryptomicon and Baroque Cycle. Instead,
they (yew kno, "they") are going to make yet another, probably
tedious, space opera?

Well, I wish Neal all the best, hope "they" end up giving him a lot of
money. I owe him for many, many hours of pleasure including having
learned more about 17th c. history than I know about the 8 decades
I've lived through myself.

But could someone please give Peter Jackson a call about Cryptonomicon
and The Baroque Cycle? Given the insane complications of organizing
and funding a major movie, I might even live long enough to see it.

ObRASW: Well, Enoch Root and the heavy gold, right?

[Paul S Person]

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

I wasn't aware that Saruman died by landing on the Wheel of Fortune at
Isengard.

In the version of /LOTR/ that /I/ read, he dies much later in the
Shire.

Now /that/ entire sequence would have been worth seeing!

[The Horny Goat]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 10:51:09 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat
I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

I wasn't aware that Saruman died by landing on the Wheel of Fortune at
Isengard.

Har har har....

Post by Paul S Person
In the version of /LOTR/ that /I/ read, he dies much later in the
Shire.
Now /that/ entire sequence would have been worth seeing!

The source I read long ago said they had actually shot that scene but
that they had been given a fixed run time and preferred the scenes in
the Grey Havens to the death of Saruman. Wouldn't be surprised if it
was an 'extra' in the DVD version but I'm guessing - not basing it on
anything definite.

[Paul S Person]

Post by The Horny Goat
On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 10:51:09 -0700, Paul S Person

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat
I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

I wasn't aware that Saruman died by landing on the Wheel of Fortune at
Isengard.

Har har har....

Post by Paul S Person
In the version of /LOTR/ that /I/ read, he dies much later in the
Shire.
Now /that/ entire sequence would have been worth seeing!

The source I read long ago said they had actually shot that scene but
that they had been given a fixed run time and preferred the scenes in
the Grey Havens to the death of Saruman. Wouldn't be surprised if it
was an 'extra' in the DVD version but I'm guessing - not basing it on
anything definite.

I take it that by "that scene" you mean Saruman dying at Isengard. I
don't remember anything about the Scouring of the Shire being filmed.

This was not included in the ones I bought [1]. And eventually stopped
watching, as I /really/ prefer JRRT's version of the story.

That it would not fit (or halted the film or broke the continuity or
some other excuse) may well be; /ROTK/ was significantly longer than
the first two, and seemed even longer due to its false endings.

Although, given their length, the idea that there was an actual
contractual time limit is doubtful. Had there /been/ a time limit it
would have been two hours. Longer films can't be shown as often during
the day, and so make less money per day than shorter films can.

[1] /FOTR/ included a "special feature" that compared LOTR to
/American/ history. /TT/ included a "special feature" where the
Rohirrim were referred to as "Rohans". Which says a lot about the
reading comprehension of the filmmakers. Nothing stands out from the
"special features" of /ROTK/ but, by then, I may not have been paying
a lot of attention, as it was clear that they were "special" only in
the sense of being "especially stupid, ignorant, and ill-informed".
This are all the original DVD of the theatrical version.

[Mad Hamish]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 10:51:09 -0700, Paul S Person
<***@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

Responding to THG via Paul because responding to THG's message I keep
getting errors

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.

he died back in the shire, when Wormtongue cut his throat after Frodo
had said they could leave
Mussalini was captured and shot by partisans

so it doesn't seem like a close match

Post by Paul S Person

Post by The Horny Goat
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

I wasn't aware that Saruman died by landing on the Wheel of Fortune at
Isengard.
In the version of /LOTR/ that /I/ read, he dies much later in the
Shire.
Now /that/ entire sequence would have been worth seeing!

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).

I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.


pt

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.
pt

The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.

Lynn

[Paul S Person]

On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.
pt

The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third was also
interesting -- it is entirely PJ's idea, and it shows what PJ could
have done had he, instead of butchering the novels, just done his own
story set in Middle-Earth.

But nothing in any of them is good enough for me, at least, to
recommend any of the films. I once re-read /LOTR/, called up each
scene as it was in the films, and dismissed that forever from my
memory. That doesn't entirely work, of course, but I found it deeply
satisfying.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.
pt

The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third was also
interesting -- it is entirely PJ's idea, and it shows what PJ could
have done had he, instead of butchering the novels, just done his own
story set in Middle-Earth.

If you are referring to the Gimli/Legolas friendship that was straight
out of the original books.

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Dimensional Traveler

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.
pt

The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
    http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third was also
interesting -- it is entirely PJ's idea, and it shows what PJ could
have done had he, instead of butchering the novels, just done his own
story set in Middle-Earth.

If you are referring to the Gimli/Legolas friendship that was straight
out of the original books.

He's not. PJ introduces Tauriel a female wood elf for no reason
except to be able to create a love-triangle subplot.

pt

[Michael F. Stemper]

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
    http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

There are a few scenes in the Hobbit trilogy that stand out, but
the amount of ridiculous stuff with no respect whatsoever for
the original material is overwhelming.

pt

[William Hyde]

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Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
    http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

There are a few scenes in the Hobbit trilogy that stand out, but
the amount of ridiculous stuff with no respect whatsoever for
the original material is overwhelming.

The three movies could perhaps be edited to make one good three hour
movie. Even a pair of good two hour movies, possibly.

William Hyde

[D]

Post by William Hyde

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
    http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

There are a few scenes in the Hobbit trilogy that stand out, but
the amount of ridiculous stuff with no respect whatsoever for
the original material is overwhelming.

The three movies could perhaps be edited to make one good three hour
movie. Even a pair of good two hour movies, possibly.
William Hyde

I think this is close to the truth.

[Paul S Person]

Post by D

Post by William Hyde

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
    http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

There are a few scenes in the Hobbit trilogy that stand out, but
the amount of ridiculous stuff with no respect whatsoever for
the original material is overwhelming.

The three movies could perhaps be edited to make one good three hour
movie. Even a pair of good two hour movies, possibly.
William Hyde

I think this is close to the truth.

I think it is correct that a one-film version could be produced that
would be a /lot/ better than what we had to put up with with three
films. But it would still be a profanation of JRRT. The stench of PJ
is hard to remove when it is in every scene related to the book.

But what's the point? The Rankin-Bass /The Hobbit/ covers the ground
pretty well, and is a lot closer to JRRT's story.

[D]

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Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
    http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

There are a few scenes in the Hobbit trilogy that stand out, but
the amount of ridiculous stuff with no respect whatsoever for
the original material is overwhelming.

The three movies could perhaps be edited to make one good three hour
movie. Even a pair of good two hour movies, possibly.
William Hyde

I think this is close to the truth.

I think it is correct that a one-film version could be produced that
would be a /lot/ better than what we had to put up with with three
films. But it would still be a profanation of JRRT. The stench of PJ
is hard to remove when it is in every scene related to the book.
But what's the point? The Rankin-Bass /The Hobbit/ covers the ground
pretty well, and is a lot closer to JRRT's story.

Thank you very much! That one is added to the playlist!

[Scott Dorsey]

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Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

Mixed Elf-Dwarf marriages are a perversion and this film should be banned.
--scott

[Paul S Person]

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Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

Mixed Elf-Dwarf marriages are a perversion and this film should be banned.

When Mr Cranky (a Web film reviewer whose purpose was to use his
film-school education to explain exactly why the film being reviewed
sucked) got Trent Lott to review PJ's /Two Towers/, Lott was very much
gratified to see Elrond taking such a strong position against racial
miscegenation. He really liked the film!

So the viewpoint above is not unique. But it's always hilarious.

[Paul S Person]

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 12:23:40 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"

Post by Michael F. Stemper

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:41:13 -0500, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
The second scene in the Hobbit trilogy is funny with all of the dwarves
walking into Bilbo's house with the round doors and stealing all of his
food and beer.
http://youtu.be/2skcNR3jYzs

The Elf-Dwarf romance spanning the second and third

The WHAT? I am very glad that I didn't go to any after the first, with
its 3-D roller-coaster.

Too bad, in a way.

It almost made the films worth watching.

Which is saying a lot for PJ's profanation of JRRT.

Oh, and I didn't watch any of them in "3D". No "3D", no
roller-coaster. Well, unless you're referring to Radagast's entry to
Rivendell. But that needed no "3D" to be idiotic.

[Paul S Person]

On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:31:07 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.

I've never seen them -- I checked for years but I could not rent them
for streaming (or from RedBox on disc). They were a for-sale item
only.

I have long since lost my interest in seeing them.

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:31:07 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.

I've never seen them -- I checked for years but I could not rent them
for streaming (or from RedBox on disc). They were a for-sale item
only.
I have long since lost my interest in seeing them.

The Extended Editions of LOTR can be "bought" (about $15 a pop)
on several online services.

The only other option appears to be a subscription to MAX (ie, HBO's
streaming service), which is often bundled with Hulu or Amazon. You
might check if you have those.

I use the 'JustWatch' app to find what services carry what movies and
shows.

pt

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:31:07 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.

I've never seen them -- I checked for years but I could not rent them
for streaming (or from RedBox on disc). They were a for-sale item
only.
I have long since lost my interest in seeing them.

The Extended Editions of LOTR can be "bought" (about $15 a pop)
on several online services.
The only other option appears to be a subscription to MAX (ie, HBO's
streaming service), which is often bundled with Hulu or Amazon. You
might check if you have those.
I use the 'JustWatch' app to find what services carry what movies and
shows.
pt

I thought this was SF written not SF bad movies reviewed?
I am sick and poor so I never got to see LOTR nor the extended
Hobbit but I read the books when I was still young.
Now there have been very few real SF movies but lots of horror
movies and i exclude those from the SF category even if the
set dressing is SF.

I read all of the Charlene Harris books I could find and so I decided
to watch the whole cinematic interpretation and found it even more
than the books less fantasy and much more horror. However it left
out Sookie Stackhouse's unique heritage which gave her telepathic
powers as well as well as many other things.

I have also read the other books by Tolkien including the stuff
put together by his heirs. I have tried to avoid the latest expansions
though, I think it is called "the Fall of Numenor".

I try for lighter topics these days than the extended story of
autocratic decadence and impiety leading to catastrophic action
which mythologically reconfigures the Middle Earth into a spherical
world. And some sort of new myth of history starts.

bliss

[Paul S Person]

On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 11:57:44 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by Paul S Person
On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 21:31:07 -0400, Cryptoengineer

Post by Cryptoengineer

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by D
Sigh... why would they make 3 seasons of a book that one reads in a few
days? It will only be like the Hobbit a long and tedious wait between
actual scenes from the book. =(

I was mostly irate at the movie version of Lord of the Rings since one
of the scenes they filmed but left on the cutting room floor was the
death of Saruman (who a lot of people considered a rip-off of the
death of Mussolini) after the fall of the Dark Tower.
No question it was my favorite LoTR scene though the "Speak Friend and
Enter" scene was the funniest from the books.

You can see the scene in the Extended Edition, integrated in its proper
place (in the movie chronology, not the book's).
I do recommend the Extended Edition. And disrecommend *any* version
of the Hobbit trilogy.

I've never seen them -- I checked for years but I could not rent them
for streaming (or from RedBox on disc). They were a for-sale item
only.
I have long since lost my interest in seeing them.

The Extended Editions of LOTR can be "bought" (about $15 a pop)
on several online services.
The only other option appears to be a subscription to MAX (ie, HBO's
streaming service), which is often bundled with Hulu or Amazon. You
might check if you have those.

As I said, I have lost all interest in them.

They /almost/ sold me on the combined DVD (both theatrical and
extended), but, as far as I could tell (or maybe I even got this
confirmed by asking online), this was done so that /both/ versions
were now spread over two discs. Yet another triumph of marketing over
sanity.

Post by Cryptoengineer
I use the 'JustWatch' app to find what services carry what movies and
shows.

I just find what I can on the sources I have.