Nebula Finalists 2015

[James Nicoll]

2015: New Horizons flies by dwarf planet Pluto before prudently continuing
its flight away from Earth, the settler nations of the New World enjoyed
public health successes of a sort that would soon become myth, and Canada
elected Justin Trudeau Prime Minister, in the hope this would cause him
to start wearing shirts in public.

Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer
Ancillary Sword by Ann Leckie
Coming Home by Jack McDevitt
The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu
Trial by Fire by Charles E. Gannon

Just the Leckie, the Addison, and the Liu.

Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
Yesterday's Kin by Nancy Kress
Calendrical Regression by Lawrence M. Schoen
Grand Jete(The Great Leap) by Rachel Swirsky
The Mothers of Voorhisville by Mary Rickert
The Regular by Ken Liu
We Are All Completely Fine by Daryl Gregory

None.


Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
A Guide to the Fruits of Hawai'i by Alaya Dawn Johnson
Sleep Walking Now and Then by Richard Bowes
The Devil in America by Kai Ashante Wilson
The Husband Stitch by Carmen Maria Machado
The Magician and Laplace's Demon by Tom Crosshill
We Are the Cloud by Sam J. Miller

None.

Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
Jackalope Wives by Ursula Vernon
A Stretch of Highway Two Lanes Wide by Sarah Pinsker
The Breath of War by Aliette de Bodard
The Fisher Queen by Alyssa Wong
The Meeker and the All-Seeing Eye by Matthew Kressel
The Vaporization Enthalpy of a Peculiar Pakistani Family by Usman T. Malik
When It Ends, He Catches Her by Eugie Foster

Only the Vernon, the de Bodard, and the Foster.

[Robert Woodward]

Post by James Nicoll
2015: New Horizons flies by dwarf planet Pluto before prudently continuing
its flight away from Earth, the settler nations of the New World enjoyed
public health successes of a sort that would soon become myth, and Canada
elected Justin Trudeau Prime Minister, in the hope this would cause him
to start wearing shirts in public.
Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

<Snip>

None of all nominees in the 4 categories.

[William Hyde]

Post by James Nicoll
2015: New Horizons flies by dwarf planet Pluto before prudently continuing
its flight away from Earth, the settler nations of the New World enjoyed
public health successes of a sort that would soon become myth, and Canada
elected Justin Trudeau Prime Minister, in the hope this would cause him
to start wearing shirts in public.
Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer
Ancillary Sword by Ann Leckie
Coming Home by Jack McDevitt
The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu
Trial by Fire by Charles E. Gannon
Just the Leckie, the Addison, and the Liu.

Only the one I would normally be least likely to read, with a title I
would generally run away from, "The Goblin Emperor". I liked it well
enough, it reminded me of Bujold.

William Hyde

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by James Nicoll
2015: New Horizons flies by dwarf planet Pluto before prudently continuing
its flight away from Earth, the settler nations of the New World enjoyed
public health successes of a sort that would soon become myth, and Canada
elected Justin Trudeau Prime Minister, in the hope this would cause him
to start wearing shirts in public.
Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer
Ancillary Sword by Ann Leckie
Coming Home by Jack McDevitt
The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu
Trial by Fire by Charles E. Gannon
Just the Leckie, the Addison, and the Liu.

I have read and reviewed "Ancillary Sword", "Coming Home", and "Trial By
Fire". I have watched the "Annihilation" movie twice for its weirdness.

I have tried to read "The Three-Body Problem" twice now and bounced both
times (DNF). You know, I have over 200 books that I have bounced off of
in my SBR. I am thinking about taking them to the Half Price Books over
in Sugar Land. Maybe I should mail them to James.

Lynn

[D]

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
2015: New Horizons flies by dwarf planet Pluto before prudently continuing
its flight away from Earth, the settler nations of the New World enjoyed
public health successes of a sort that would soon become myth, and Canada
elected Justin Trudeau Prime Minister, in the hope this would cause him
to start wearing shirts in public.
Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer
Ancillary Sword by Ann Leckie
Coming Home by Jack McDevitt
The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu
Trial by Fire by Charles E. Gannon
Just the Leckie, the Addison, and the Liu.

I have read and reviewed "Ancillary Sword", "Coming Home", and "Trial By
Fire". I have watched the "Annihilation" movie twice for its weirdness.
I have tried to read "The Three-Body Problem" twice now and bounced both
times (DNF). You know, I have over 200 books that I have bounced off of in
my SBR. I am thinking about taking them to the Half Price Books over in
Sugar Land. Maybe I should mail them to James.
Lynn

Why didn't you like it?

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by D

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
2015: New Horizons flies by dwarf planet Pluto before prudently continuing
its flight away from Earth, the settler nations of the New World enjoyed
public health successes of a sort that would soon become myth, and Canada
elected Justin Trudeau Prime Minister, in the hope this would cause him
to start wearing shirts in public.
Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer
Ancillary Sword by Ann Leckie
Coming Home by Jack McDevitt
The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu
Trial by Fire by Charles E. Gannon
Just the Leckie, the Addison, and the Liu.

I have read and reviewed "Ancillary Sword", "Coming Home", and "Trial
By Fire".  I have watched the "Annihilation" movie twice for its
weirdness.
I have tried to read "The Three-Body Problem" twice now and bounced
both times (DNF).  You know, I have over 200 books that I have bounced
off of in my SBR.  I am thinking about taking them to the Half Price
Books over in Sugar Land.  Maybe I should mail them to James.
Lynn

Why didn't you like it?

The China Cultural Revolution torture and murder scenes really bothered
me. I had a really smart friend in college who was a nephew of the Shah
of Iran. When Iran fell to islamic crazies in 1979, they killed several
of his friends and relatives. Iran figured out that he was studying
Mechanical Engineering at TAMU (we had several classes and a study group
together) and sent him a letter in Farsi telling him that his payments
were stopping and that he had to come home. He figured that he would be
shot at the airport within five minutes of landing. He did not show up
for our senior year so I have no idea what happened to him.

Lynn

[D]

Post by D

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by James Nicoll
2015: New Horizons flies by dwarf planet Pluto before prudently continuing
its flight away from Earth, the settler nations of the New World enjoyed
public health successes of a sort that would soon become myth, and Canada
elected Justin Trudeau Prime Minister, in the hope this would cause him
to start wearing shirts in public.
Which 2015 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer
Ancillary Sword by Ann Leckie
Coming Home by Jack McDevitt
The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu
Trial by Fire by Charles E. Gannon
Just the Leckie, the Addison, and the Liu.

I have read and reviewed "Ancillary Sword", "Coming Home", and "Trial By
Fire".  I have watched the "Annihilation" movie twice for its weirdness.
I have tried to read "The Three-Body Problem" twice now and bounced both
times (DNF).  You know, I have over 200 books that I have bounced off of
in my SBR.  I am thinking about taking them to the Half Price Books over
in Sugar Land.  Maybe I should mail them to James.
Lynn

Why didn't you like it?

The China Cultural Revolution torture and murder scenes really bothered me.
I had a really smart friend in college who was a nephew of the Shah of Iran.
When Iran fell to islamic crazies in 1979, they killed several of his friends
and relatives. Iran figured out that he was studying Mechanical Engineering
at TAMU (we had several classes and a study group together) and sent him a
letter in Farsi telling him that his payments were stopping and that he had
to come home. He figured that he would be shot at the airport within five
minutes of landing. He did not show up for our senior year so I have no idea
what happened to him.

Sad story. =( I can understand how that left a bad taste in your mouth.
Iranians are ninjas! They make much, much better immigrants than arabians!
Very beautiful women too!

Lynn

[Default User]

Post by Lynn McGuire
I have tried to read "The Three-Body Problem" twice now and bounced
both times (DNF). You know, I have over 200 books that I have
bounced off of in my SBR.

200 rejected books? You need a better pre-filter, especially as you are
buying books. That's a significant waste of money. I'm not sure I would
consider books you won't read to be a strategic book reserve.


Brian

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Default User

Post by Lynn McGuire
I have tried to read "The Three-Body Problem" twice now and bounced
both times (DNF). You know, I have over 200 books that I have
bounced off of in my SBR.

200 rejected books? You need a better pre-filter, especially as you are
buying books. That's a significant waste of money. I'm not sure I would
consider books you won't read to be a strategic book reserve.
Brian

My tastes have changed over the last 30+ years. For instance, I have
given up on Clive Custler and there are 2 or 3 of his in my SBR.

Lynn

[Default User]

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Default User
200 rejected books? You need a better pre-filter, especially as you
are buying books. That's a significant waste of money. I'm not sure
I would consider books you won't read to be a strategic book
reserve.

My tastes have changed over the last 30+ years. For instance, I have
given up on Clive Custler and there are 2 or 3 of his in my SBR.

Why aren't you reading your books when you get them? Keeping them so
long your tastes change isn't very effective.


Brian

[Paul S Person]

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 07:21:56 -0000 (UTC), "Default User"

Post by Default User

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Default User
200 rejected books? You need a better pre-filter, especially as you
are buying books. That's a significant waste of money. I'm not sure
I would consider books you won't read to be a strategic book
reserve.

My tastes have changed over the last 30+ years. For instance, I have
given up on Clive Custler and there are 2 or 3 of his in my SBR.

Why aren't you reading your books when you get them? Keeping them so
long your tastes change isn't very effective.

I can empathize with the SBR: I have a very large collection of
magazine-associate games ("conflict simulations") that I have never
puched the counters out for, let alone read the rules or played them.
Collecting, for some of us, can become a bit of a mania; I find that
insisting on reading each book at least once and rotating music and
movies on discs regularly at least avoids those large heaps of items
never ever put to their proper use. But for the games, I simply
switched to the game-free (and much less expensive) editions of the
magazines.

[Lynn McGuire]

Post by Default User

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Default User
200 rejected books? You need a better pre-filter, especially as you
are buying books. That's a significant waste of money. I'm not sure
I would consider books you won't read to be a strategic book
reserve.

My tastes have changed over the last 30+ years. For instance, I have
given up on Clive Custler and there are 2 or 3 of his in my SBR.

Why aren't you reading your books when you get them? Keeping them so
long your tastes change isn't very effective.
Brian

You know, I have learned a few things in my 64 years of life, that if
you want something and you have the funds, grab it. You never know if
that something will still be available in a year. Plus, I like
supporting authors, especially independent authors.

Lynn

[The Horny Goat]

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 15:35:10 -0600, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
You know, I have learned a few things in my 64 years of life, that if
you want something and you have the funds, grab it. You never know if
that something will still be available in a year. Plus, I like
supporting authors, especially independent authors.

Doesn't always work - when I was a 20 year old undergraduate (nearly
50 yrs ago now) I got a copy of the CRC Handbook of Chemistry +
Physics for $25 (Cdn) which of course would be much more now and of
course was a lot more in terms of my buying power then (i.e. it came
out of my summer earnings).

Talked to my son at Christmas about donating it to the locate
Hackspace he's involved with - I figure the chemistry data should be
current along with the mathematical tables (about 40 pages of
integrals solved) though no doubt in the time since then they will
have added much new material. (I'm too lazy to have looked it up in
the reference section of the local public library which is on a
different floor than the main stacks...)

As for SF - still got lots but my late wife tended to wall off with
new stuff most of her book collection then when she ran short of space
started walling off my half of the room. She/s been gone 2 1/2 years
and I haven't yet gotten around to un-walling off the room (with the
idea of giving away most of hers and organizing mine)

[danny burstein]

In <***@4ax.com> The Horny Goat <***@home.ca> writes:

[snip]

Post by The Horny Goat
Doesn't always work - when I was a 20 year old undergraduate (nearly
50 yrs ago now) I got a copy of the CRC Handbook of Chemistry +
Physics for $25 (Cdn) which of course would be much more now and of
course was a lot more in terms of my buying power then (i.e. it came
out of my summer earnings).

Roughly the same time frame here. One of the smart things
the Chemical Rubber Company, AKA CRC Publications, did with
that book was that... while the yearly new edition was $100
or so dollars (and back then that was real money..) they *officially*
sold any of the earlier years' copies they still had in stock
for that seriously discounted price.

So normal people, like you and me, got last year's edition. WHich
was, for 99% of users, every bit as good.

About 20 years ago I realized I hadn't cracked it open in
a decade so gave it a solid hug and kiss and donated it to
one of hte used book places. Hopefully it found a good home.

(I *would* like to find one of the half sized, "bible paper",
versions. I last saw one when I was in high school, and don't
know when the last print edition came out).

[Michael Benveniste]

Post by danny burstein
Roughly the same time frame here. One of the smart things
the Chemical Rubber Company, AKA CRC Publications, did with
that book was that... while the yearly new edition was $100
or so dollars (and back then that was real money..) they *officially*
sold any of the earlier years' copies they still had in stock
for that seriously discounted price.
So normal people, like you and me, got last year's edition. WHich
was, for 99% of users, every bit as good.
About 20 years ago I realized I hadn't cracked it open in
a decade so gave it a solid hug and kiss and donated it to
one of hte used book places. Hopefully it found a good home.

I still have my 54th Edition (1973-74). Like you, I bought it at
the year-old discount while in high school.

[Robert Woodward]

In article

Post by Michael Benveniste

Post by danny burstein
Roughly the same time frame here. One of the smart things
the Chemical Rubber Company, AKA CRC Publications, did with
that book was that... while the yearly new edition was $100
or so dollars (and back then that was real money..) they *officially*
sold any of the earlier years' copies they still had in stock
for that seriously discounted price.
So normal people, like you and me, got last year's edition. WHich
was, for 99% of users, every bit as good.
About 20 years ago I realized I hadn't cracked it open in
a decade so gave it a solid hug and kiss and donated it to
one of hte used book places. Hopefully it found a good home.

I still have my 54th Edition (1973-74). Like you, I bought it at
the year-old discount while in high school.

I never bought a copy of the CRC handbook; I do have my Father's copy
(late 1940s edition) which I inherited when he died 15 years ago (along
with his slide rules - the one I bought 1 year before the introduction
of the very first hand held Hewlett-Packard scientific calculator was
better).

[Paul S Person]

Post by The Horny Goat
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 15:35:10 -0600, Lynn McGuire

Post by Lynn McGuire
You know, I have learned a few things in my 64 years of life, that if
you want something and you have the funds, grab it. You never know if
that something will still be available in a year. Plus, I like
supporting authors, especially independent authors.

Doesn't always work - when I was a 20 year old undergraduate (nearly
50 yrs ago now) I got a copy of the CRC Handbook of Chemistry +
Physics for $25 (Cdn) which of course would be much more now and of
course was a lot more in terms of my buying power then (i.e. it came
out of my summer earnings).

I bought /Handbook of Mathematical Functions with Formulas, Graphs,
and Mathematical Tables/ when I was rather young (and, IIRC, bought it
again after donating to a library in the meantime; at least you held
on to your /CRC Handbook of Chemistry + Physics/). It takes up shelf
space here to this day.

I still don't have any idea what most of the functions /are/, or what
they are used for, but the graphs (in my memory, at least) are often
interesting.

This was a Dover reprint of a US Govt document. The tables were
generated by a computer -- which may well have used vacuum tubes.

Post by The Horny Goat
Talked to my son at Christmas about donating it to the locate
Hackspace he's involved with - I figure the chemistry data should be
current along with the mathematical tables (about 40 pages of
integrals solved) though no doubt in the time since then they will
have added much new material. (I'm too lazy to have looked it up in
the reference section of the local public library which is on a
different floor than the main stacks...)
As for SF - still got lots but my late wife tended to wall off with
new stuff most of her book collection then when she ran short of space
started walling off my half of the room. She/s been gone 2 1/2 years
and I haven't yet gotten around to un-walling off the room (with the
idea of giving away most of hers and organizing mine)

[William Hyde]

Post by Default User

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Default User
200 rejected books? You need a better pre-filter, especially as you
are buying books. That's a significant waste of money. I'm not sure
I would consider books you won't read to be a strategic book
reserve.

My tastes have changed over the last 30+ years. For instance, I have
given up on Clive Custler and there are 2 or 3 of his in my SBR.

Why aren't you reading your books when you get them? Keeping them so
long your tastes change isn't very effective.

Which leads to the question, what is your longest time between acquiring
a book and reading it?

In my case it would be fifty two years. My uncle gave my mother a copy
of Frank Yerby's deeply footnoted "Judas, my Brother". It soon wound up
in my collection and last year I finally read it.

But the longest gap between buying a book and reading it would be in my
case 24 years, the book being De Camp's "The Ancient Engineers", which I
devoured on a Halifax-Fairbanks trip, cursing myself for not having read
it earlier.

William Hyde

[Default User]

Post by William Hyde
Which leads to the question, what is your longest time between
acquiring a book and reading it?

For me, a month maybe.


Brian

[Titus G]

Post by William Hyde

Post by Default User
 

Post by Lynn McGuire

Post by Default User
200 rejected books? You need a better pre-filter, especially as you
are buying books. That's a significant waste of money. I'm not sure
I would consider books you won't read to be a strategic book
reserve.

My tastes have changed over the last 30+ years. For instance, I have
given up on Clive Custler and there are 2 or 3 of his in my SBR.

Why aren't you reading your books when you get them? Keeping them so
long your tastes change isn't very effective.

Which leads to the question, what is your longest time between acquiring
a book and reading it?
In my case it would be fifty two years.  My uncle gave my mother a copy
of Frank Yerby's deeply footnoted "Judas, my Brother".  It soon wound up
in my collection and last year I finally read it.
But the longest gap between buying a book and reading it would be in my
case 24 years, the book being De Camp's "The Ancient Engineers", which I
devoured on a Halifax-Fairbanks trip, cursing myself for not having read
it earlier.

I acquired a whole stack of books perhaps in 1999, perhaps later, most
of which I will never read but this month thoroughly enjoyed "The Book
of Lies" by Agota Kristov translated from French. A brilliant four stars
for me. Also known as "The Notebook Trilogy", it comprises three books.
The Notebook. The Proof. The Third Lie.
Highly recommended.
"With all the stark simplicity of a fractured fairy tale, the trilogy
tells the story of twin brothers, Claus and Lucas, locked in an
agonising bond that becomes a gripping allegory of the forces that have
divided "brothers" in much of Europe since World War II. Kristof's
postmodern saga begins with The Notebook, in which the brothers are
children, lost in a country torn apart by conflict, who must learn every
trick of evil and cruelty merely to survive. In The Proof, Lucas is
challenging to prove his own identity and the existence of his missing
brother, a defector to the "other side." The Third Lie, which closes the
trilogy, is a biting parable of Eastern and Western Europe today and a
deep exploration into the nature of identity, storytelling, and the
truths and untruths that lie at the heart of them all. "Stark and
haunting." – The San Francisco Chronicle;

I will probably read it again in January.

[The Horny Goat]

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:15:09 -0500, William Hyde

Post by William Hyde
But the longest gap between buying a book and reading it would be in my
case 24 years, the book being De Camp's "The Ancient Engineers", which I
devoured on a Halifax-Fairbanks trip, cursing myself for not having read
it earlier.

How did you ever make that trip? Not counting flights to Europe the
longest I ever did was Vancouver-Corner Brook NF and THAT was flying
Vancouver-Toronto then driving the rest.

[William Hyde]

Post by The Horny Goat
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:15:09 -0500, William Hyde

Post by William Hyde
But the longest gap between buying a book and reading it would be in my
case 24 years, the book being De Camp's "The Ancient Engineers", which I
devoured on a Halifax-Fairbanks trip, cursing myself for not having read
it earlier.

How did you ever make that trip? Not counting flights to Europe the
longest I ever did was Vancouver-Corner Brook NF and THAT was flying
Vancouver-Toronto then driving the rest.

As I recall it went Halifax-Toronto-Vancouver - Seattle - Anchorage-
Fairbanks. With a brief stop in Winnipeg.

The trip up the coast occurred in clear air conditions that, according
to my hosts, almost never happen. It was spectacular, especially Mt Logan.

I was told by virtually everyone I met that I was too late for the
Northern lights, but they put on a spectacular display that night. I was
almost too tired to see them by then, but I ventured out - we rarely see
much of a display in Toronto or Halifax.

Combine that with the people I met and the entertaining stories of
Fairbanks itself, and it was a marvelous trip.

William Hyde

[The Horny Goat]

Post by William Hyde
As I recall it went Halifax-Toronto-Vancouver - Seattle - Anchorage-
Fairbanks. With a brief stop in Winnipeg.
The trip up the coast occurred in clear air conditions that, according
to my hosts, almost never happen. It was spectacular, especially Mt Logan.
I was told by virtually everyone I met that I was too late for the
Northern lights, but they put on a spectacular display that night. I was
almost too tired to see them by then, but I ventured out - we rarely see
much of a display in Toronto or Halifax.

My only really good experience of the lights was in northern
Newfoundland (about 10 miles short of the southern tip of Labrador -
which is a long way north of Vancouver much less Toronto.

Probably the most unusual thing I've seen is the non-ice coast of
Greenland mostly thanks to the pilot on our flight from
London-Vancouver in 2016 who came onto the intercom and pointed it out
and said "Folks we fly this route all the time but 95+% of the time
it's covered in clouds. Today is the 5%....."

[William Hyde]

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by William Hyde
As I recall it went Halifax-Toronto-Vancouver - Seattle - Anchorage-
Fairbanks. With a brief stop in Winnipeg.
The trip up the coast occurred in clear air conditions that, according
to my hosts, almost never happen. It was spectacular, especially Mt Logan.
I was told by virtually everyone I met that I was too late for the
Northern lights, but they put on a spectacular display that night. I was
almost too tired to see them by then, but I ventured out - we rarely see
much of a display in Toronto or Halifax.

My only really good experience of the lights was in northern
Newfoundland (about 10 miles short of the southern tip of Labrador -
which is a long way north of Vancouver much less Toronto.
Probably the most unusual thing I've seen is the non-ice coast of
Greenland mostly thanks to the pilot on our flight from
London-Vancouver in 2016 who came onto the intercom and pointed it out
and said "Folks we fly this route all the time but 95+% of the time
it's covered in clouds. Today is the 5%....."

Exactly. I've overflown southern Greenland several times, but clouds
have always obscured the view.

William Hyde

[Cryptoengineer]

Post by The Horny Goat

Post by William Hyde
As I recall it went Halifax-Toronto-Vancouver - Seattle - Anchorage-
Fairbanks. With a brief stop in Winnipeg.
The trip up  the coast occurred in clear air conditions that, according
to my hosts, almost never happen. It was spectacular, especially Mt Logan.
I was told by virtually everyone I met that I was too late for the
Northern lights, but they put on a spectacular display that night. I was
almost too tired to see them by then, but I ventured out - we rarely see
much of a display in Toronto or Halifax.

My only really good experience of the lights was in northern
Newfoundland (about 10 miles short of the southern tip of Labrador -
which is a long way north of Vancouver much less Toronto.
Probably the most unusual thing I've seen is the non-ice coast of
Greenland mostly thanks to the pilot on our flight from
London-Vancouver in 2016 who came onto the intercom and pointed it out
and said "Folks we fly this route all the time but 95+% of the time
it's covered in clouds. Today is the 5%....."

Exactly.  I've overflown southern Greenland several times, but clouds
have always obscured the view.

I think I've seen it twice, once while flying NY -> Iceland, and once
London -> NY.

pt

[The Horny Goat]

Post by William Hyde
Exactly. I've overflown southern Greenland several times, but clouds
have always obscured the view.

As I said the captain said the E coast of Greenland is obscured by
clouds about 95% of the time. I'd estimate about 1/3 of the people on
the wrong side of the plane got up and looked out the far side windows
to see - which is what I did.